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Remove #shitposting from discord

Remove #shitposting from discord?  

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  1. 1. Remove #shitposting from discord?


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keep this channel, its the only nsfw thing about xG and its a place of freedom to some, if the channel disappears ill probably just leave the discord server all together, I like to steal the memes and be myself without getting judged horrifically even though it doesn't stop normies from judging anyway, I like to shitpost, whether its porn, somewhat offensive memes, or just saying whatevers on my mind, all within the servers rules and guidelines, if you take the channel away people are just gonna start posting their offensive memes in other channels or just complain all-together, if people can't handle looking at #shitposting they can fuck off and mute the channel, i have a right to post whatever i want in the channel as long as its not against the servers rules, or discords TOS, keep the channel and crackdown on the stuff that shouldn't be posted, you cant please everyone, especially in a server and community of this size. 

 

I do however agree that if anything against the Discord TOS is posted, it needs to be addressed and handled accordingly, if the admins can't handle seeing that stuff, are they fit for the position? I can't blame anyone for not wanting to see people fucking animals, or gore, or child related stuff, that stuff should automatically be blacklisted by general consensus and knowledge and should be dealt with accordingly, and the people who post it should be dealt with accordingly.

 

tl;dr this is just my opinion, i could care less what happens honestly

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I don't really get what's the big deal here, it's not that hard to watch the channel or interpret if something is against tos or not, especially from how straight forward it is. I don't see that much controversy over images and when there is it's handled pretty quickly since the rules are so simple so I don't really get how the channel is as bad as you are saying it is. Which is why it seems to me that you are jumping the gun a bit here over a few people breaking rules and posting lolis or whatever like yesterday, which like what others have said before, you can just punish them and move on like we do on the servers.

This reminds me a lot of the whole spray controversy thread where someone went on saying how we should just remove sprays in general to avoid controversy over if a spray should be allowed or not, which just like then I don't think it's a good idea to just remove an entire thing just because of a few baddies which the staff can easily handle. Plus we don't even need to edit the rules here as the tos rules are simple enough. But yeah I honestly don't really use the channel, but a lot of people do like to use it so I'd rather just keep the channel and let people have some fun their when their bored while continuing to punish people accordingly for when they do they break tos.

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1 hour ago, Krampus said:

I don't really get what's the big deal here, it's not that hard to watch the channel or interpret if something is against tos or not, especially from how straight forward it is.

There is a huge disagreement on whether or not "aged up" shit is allowed, and sometimes it's pretty hard to determine whether or not it's loli/child pornography. Basically impossible to tell without a huge fucking poster behind their head saying "I AM OVER THE MINIMUM AGE REQUIREMENT!11!11!!!"

1 hour ago, Krampus said:

I don't see that much controversy over images and when there is it's handled pretty quickly since the rules are so simple so I don't really get how the channel is as bad as you are saying it is.

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1 hour ago, Krampus said:

Which is why it seems to me that you are jumping the gun a bit here over a few people breaking rules and posting lolis or whatever like yesterday, which like what others have said before, you can just punish them and move on like we do on the servers.

Still annoying for staff members to moderate something that is 100% up to their discretion unless it's 100% obvious that the girl/guy is too young.  (Usually only possible with anime characters that have been given specific ages, and don't have child-like features. This means that the "I am a 1000-year-old dragon girl. Despite me having the physique of a 10-year-old, I am legal" argument doesn't exactly work.)

1 hour ago, Krampus said:

This reminds me a lot of the whole spray controversy thread where someone went on saying how we should just remove sprays in general to avoid controversy over if a spray should be allowed or not, which just like then I don't think it's a good idea to just remove an entire thing just because of a few baddies which the staff can easily handle.

You keep making the exact same point over and over. "It is easy for staff to handle these situations." No. It. Is. Not.

1 hour ago, Krampus said:

Plus we don't even need to edit the rules here as the tos rules are simple enough.

Server rules don't apply to the shitposting channel. That is why spamming and other things are allowed there.

1 hour ago, Krampus said:

But yeah I honestly don't really use the channel, but a lot of people do like to use it so I'd rather just keep the channel and let people have some fun their when their bored while continuing to punish people accordingly for when they do they break tos.

The most I can really do is give the people who like shitposting my sympathy, but when people are constantly violating the TOS on our servers, it doesn't exactly look too good for us.

32 minutes ago, VinylScratch said:

+1 it offers nothing he beneficial and breeds toxicity. If it's not allowed on our servers why our discord?

This is a pretty damn good point.

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I personally have not used the #shitposting channel much, but it seems to be the stem of a lot of drama and toxicity nowadays, and it's honestly getting annoying.

2 hours ago, Krampus said:

This reminds me a lot of the whole spray controversy thread where someone went on saying how we should just remove sprays in general to avoid controversy over if a spray should be allowed or not, which just like then I don't think it's a good idea to just remove an entire thing just because of a few baddies which the staff can easily handle.

Honestly I don't think it's fair to compare this to that spray situation. We have several rules in place for sprays because we don't want porn or gore on our servers, and sprays didn't end up getting disabled because in the end, we can all be mature enough to choose proper sprays, even if there are a few problems here and there. The shitposting channel however, has very few rules or regulations, and pretty much serves only as a place to be immature and toxic. The channel is literally called shitposting, after all. With the spray situation, sprays were going to be removed because of the actions of a bad few, and that was unfair. But this time, the bad few is the majority. 

Again, I don't use this channel much, so maybe my input has less value. But I personally don't like the idea of a shitposting server in a community like ours. We have a lot of rules set in place to against immaturity, toxicity, drama, and explicit gore/porn. Yet, we have a channel on our discord where none of those things apply, and people can do everything they can't normally do, like post explicit things, spam, and start drama. I don't like the behavior it encourages, and I don't believe it falls in line with the rest of the server's beliefs. If you really wanna shitpost, talk about drama, or post gore or porn or stuff like that, then you should really keep it off our discord, and make one of your own. +1 for its removal.

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Okay let's be honest though every fucking anime bitch I see looks like she's in grade 4 with melon sized tits but the lore says she's a 400 year old elf so it's "okay".

You shouldn't be posting your degenerate fucking lolicon. That's just common knowledge. As long as these people know their limits shit posting isn't a problem. At least #shitposting keeps the degens away from the real chat. There's some people that LIVE in that chat. I don't want anybody living in a shit hole to come into our land.

Shit posting is supposed to be fun but you troglodytes are using it as a place for everyone to jack off together to fucking puppies. I don't want these kinds of people to roam the streets of xG. They should stay in their disgusting sewer.

Anyways, I don't think it should be removed. I have it muted and like I said it keeps the weirdo degenerates away so I'm good.

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8 hours ago, Dannypicacho said:

I don't want anybody living in a shit hole to come into our land.

 

14 hours ago, Dannypicacho said:

now they're going to move into general

theres no reason to think that would happen, and thats also why it was suggested that we archive it first for a while to make sure it doesn't, so we can restore it if there's problems.

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33 minutes ago, Lithium said:

 

theres no reason to think that would happen, and thats also why it was suggested that we archive it first for a while to make sure it doesn't, so we can restore it if there's problems.

I've seen people who only ever use #shitposting and ONLY #shitposting. If you remove their house, they're going to start interacting with the real world and we're gonna have to put up with that. 

Keep the sewer monsters in the sewer. If you remove their sewer they're gonna come to us.

And yes I'm serious, I don't want these huge fucking weirdos bleeding out into the normal channels. God knows what they'll post in #memes.

Edited by Dannypicacho (see edit history)

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1 minute ago, Dannypicacho said:

Keep the sewer monsters in the sewer. If you remove their sewer they're gonna come to us.

And yes I'm serious, I don't want these huge fucking weirdos bleeding out into the normal channels

This is exactly why I said we should attempt archiving first. If they don't cause problems in the other channels we should be fine just silently deleting the channel.

Another solution @YeEternalTuna mentioned last night on Discord was to prohibit the posting of pornographic images. Basically, this just makes #shitposting a loosely moderated #memes.

I should add that if the vote goes through on removing the channels, we should at least attempt both of these proposed solutions. Archive the channel for a month or a few weeks and take note of the changes in the other channels. Next, remove the channel from the archives and set a single basic rule of "no pornographic or sexualized content." This would act very much like the spray rule on TF2, and most of the Discord staff have been TF2 moderators at one point, or at least present during the revision of the rule. This makes the channel much easier to moderate, and we should decrease the amount of TOS violations on our server.

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2 minutes ago, Tatost said:

This is exactly why I said we should attempt archiving first. If they don't cause problems in the other channels we should be fine just silently deleting the channel.

Another solution @YeEternalTuna mentioned last night on Discord was to prohibit the posting of pornographic images. Basically, this just makes #shitposting a loosely moderated #memes.

I should add that if the vote goes through on removing the channels, we should at least attempt both of these proposed solutions. Archive the channel for a month or a few weeks and take note of the changes in the other channels. Next, remove the channel from the archives and set a single basic rule of "no pornographic or sexualized content." This would act very much like the spray rule on TF2, and most of the Discord staff have been TF2 moderators at one point, or at least present during the revision of the rule. This makes the channel much easier to moderate, and we should decrease the amount of TOS violations on our server.

Okay but the no porn would literally just make it #memes like you said so I don't see the point.

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3 minutes ago, Dannypicacho said:

Okay but the no porn would literally just make it #memes like you said so I don't see the point.

I was trying to emphasize the fact that it would be a very loosely moderated #memes channel. This way you can post all of your incredibly racist and sexist memes without having to worry about getting banned. The entire problem with #shitposting is the huge group of absolute mongs who keep posting loli/beastiality. If no one posted that shit we'd be fine, but it keeps happening. At this point, we can outlaw pornographic/sexualized images, or we can just delete the entire channel. At this rate, I highly doubt we'll be keeping the channel without making some sort of drastic change. If you want to keep #shitposting, you should choose the better of the two solutions.

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22 minutes ago, Tatost said:

The entire problem with #shitposting is the huge group of absolute mongs who keep posting loli/beastiality. If no one posted that shit we'd be fine, but it keeps happening. At this point, we can outlaw pornographic/sexualized images, or we can just delete the entire channel. At this rate, I highly doubt we'll be keeping the channel without making some sort of drastic change. If you want to keep #shitposting, you should choose the better of the two solutions.

Sesh's toe pics have been questioned about gore in the past too. Just putting that out there.

Edited by Kypari (see edit history)

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2 minutes ago, Kypari said:

Sesh's toe pics have been questioned about gore in the past too. Just putting that out there.

I'm not familiar with the toe images, not gonna lie. If there are any disgusting deformations or flesh wounds, I'd say it wouldn't be allowed. Again, I'm not familiar with the toe images since I don't ever actually look at #shitposting without being tagged.

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