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Quick PSA: How to Civilly Discuss
Precious and 4 others reacted to LAN_Megalodon for a post in a topic
Greetings members and guests. You may be wondering what in the high heavens has been going on lately. Threads are a mess of toxicity and hate. It's very difficult to pinpoint the actual claims of many a thread, oh dear oh dear. It is because of this that in this thread I will be trying to explain how to actually engage in constructive dialogue with your fellow xenogamers members.. Part 1. Make sure any claims you make in any thread are substantiated by verifiable evidence. For instance, were I to make a thread called "Virr is an incredibly toxic individual who bullies and harasses me daily please demote" it would probably help to have multiple things. Maybe witness testimony that, yes indeed, Virr does do these things. Maybe a screencap of the abuse Virr definitely really sends me on the daily. However the strongest form of evidence I could provide would be unedited records of the events that had occured in full context. It is very very easy to clip a sentence or two out of context to try and assassinate someone's character Even if doing this somewhat incriminates me, it is better to provide evidence of the occurrence in context. It adds towards the credibility of my claim, as I am obviously not trying to hide any bad acting on my part this way. While this is the strongest form of evidence, that does not mean that Anecdotal evidence is inherently bad. It is especially useful in cases such as abuse through voice. Abuses or violations through voice are especially difficult to gather evidence against, as demos must start being recorded before the event transpires, and it's unreasonable to expect anyone making an abuse report to have been running demos at all times or for them to have enabled some kind of third party recording software. In this situation, you can see how merely the testimony of multiple unrelated individuals might be sufficient evidence worthy of creating a thread about. What isn't strong evidence though is "I feel like virr is being toxic because they vaguely don't like me and don't want to communicate with me outside of the platform of xenogamers when necessary". Which brings us to step two. Part 2: Realize that opinions are not really worth discussing if you are not willing to try and back them up. We've all got opinions. 'They're like armpits' or some other bottom-of-the-barrel-dad-joke. But generally it's not worth making a thread about an opinion if the most reasoning you have for an opinion is "idk i just feel that way I guess". That's not to say you don't have a right to that opinion, but the point of the forums is to provide some outlet for discussion. If I wanted to make a vote to remove clocktown because I think it's a bad garbage map, but I cannot elaborate on why I think that, it's pointless to even try to discuss it. That's why the vote exists, to just be able to give your input without having to defend it. It would be pointless and unproductive to just constantly parrot "Idk man I want it removed because I think it's bad" (which usually just devolves into a sh¡tstorm). Just create the vote, vote, and be done with it. You'd make just as much progress arguing over whether blue is a better color than green. Part 3: Please don't needlessly attack other folks' character, thanks. This one kind of speaks for itself. Kinda a "love the sinner, hate the sin" kind of deal. Generally you should take issue with what people are saying and not who's saying it. If virr said something as absolutely stupid as... it would still not be acceptable or intelligent to attack virr directly for his opinion on things. Attack his argument, that's fine, but the end goal of discussion is not mindless name-calling. There's a big difference between saying "hey man, I think your opinion is poorly thought through and inconsistent because xyz" and "lol ur dumb nerd". Part 4: Do not, under any circumstances, posit that you know what anyone's thoughts are unless they've already explicitly stated it. This is the big one that really annoys me the most. Like okay Sherlock, we get it, you think so highly of your genius self that you think you've conquered what philosophers worldwide have grappled with for decades, the impenetrable prison of the human mind. Here's the reality; you likely do not know what that other person is thinking. Even if they were to explicitly tell you what they are thinking, there's always something lost in the transition from thoughts to words. You can directly quote someone's opinion on a matter, you can try to theorize what their feelings on a matter may be through some amount of evidence, but to approach the matter without delicacy and just assume that you've got an individuals stance or views nailed down with no supporting evidence makes you look like an arrogant idiot who's so strapped for any modicum of support for their claims that you literally have to build a straw-man and burn it to have any impact. Part 5: Every single person on this planet has a set of biases. Everyone has a set of actions, opinions, or choices that they are predisposed to. This brings back the point about being humble. You are not above this. You may think you have no active bias against anyone or even anything, but previous experience and interaction always paints an individual's worldview a certain way. Some biases we can be conscious of, while others we can't. There isn't anything wrong with anyone for having an internal blind bias, it's completely normal, but my hope is that the more people who know about this, the less people will think that someone's bias exists solely to harm them. Just please be kind; as much as you're thinking the other person on the opposite end of the argument is a biased garbage bin, they're probably thinking the exact same about you, and it doesn't help anyone to grow sore over it. So there it is, my not-so-brief outline on issues with a couple of recent trends in threads. I hope it was at least somewhat coherent and I hope you have a wonderful day. Adios -
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Quick PSA: How to Civilly Discuss
Thorax_ and 2 others reacted to realBelloWaldi for a post in a topic
damn kinda sad that this clan got to the point where a bunch of [almost] grown butt people need to be told how to conform to social norms. Sad! Appreciate the effort though @LAN_Megalodon -
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Genesis
virr and 2 others reacted to YeEternalTuna for a post in a topic
I don't know where to start with this apology. It'll probably be all over the place because I'm not so good with conveying my emotions/thoughts. I guess I'll start with saying I'm sorry for what Lemonvolt said in the thread. He didn't mean to group everyone (who isn't in my friend group) in this ''furry'' group. He did the worst thing possible (which is something everyone agreed with) especially since there was tension before that. He did it out of frustration and I can understand but I still didn't think it was okay for him to do that. I'm sorry to @Caribou to being a hypocrite towards him (and anyone else that found me to be a hypocrite). I reflected on what I had said and what I've done and I thought it was pretty retarded of me to say that people were picking on me for my past when I was doing the very same thing. I'm sorry to @Kypari (and anyone that can apply themselves to this or however you want to phrase it) for arguing with you in the past (and if I've argued with you recently which I dont think I've done, correct me if I'm wrong). I'm sorry to @bagggel and anyone else I've been passive aggressive towards. I should've thought before I sent that message. I should've went to a higher up instead of trying to stir up drama and I fully admit that I was completely in the wrong there. (Sorry for the repetition but) I'm sorry for all of the passive aggressive comments n' such. I don't know how to explain my actions there other than wanting to cause drama or something. (Was usually done due to having anger and frustrations that I couldn't do anything about). I'm sorry for anything my friends have said and done that upset anyone. I'm sorry for all the drama that's been caused due to my idiocy and immaturity. I would like to have a clean slate with everyone and try to do better this time. I ask for forgiveness for the dumb stuff I've done and if you don't want to forgive, I'm fine with that. I just hope I can get along with everyone from now on and to keep any snarky poop to myself and to improve myself on my behavior n such. I'm deeply sorry. -
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I'm quitting Xeno Gamers...
SegFault and one other reacted to tree_ for a post in a topic
Only for a week though. I will be going on vacation July 18 - July 25 during which time I will not be able to play TF2 or any game for that matter. I will however, be able to talk on Discord and Steam as I will have my phone with me. Just thought I should let you guys know so it's not weird when I sorta disappear. Anyways, happy gaming! -
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1 pointAbstract Augemented. Yes I like that map, don't judge me.
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1 pointHave a good trip dude! See you soon ?
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1 pointJailbreak Added jb_mist Bounty plugin rewrite Allows admins to reset bounties in the event of a freekill with /resetbounty You must now use !payout to collect bounties 15 minutes after you earn one (If you have unclaimed bounties, you will be reminded when you connect to the server) LastCT Store! You can now purchase what weapon you want to use and what song plays when you get LastCT! Allows you to purchase primary and secondary weapons separately Default weapons are Mac10 + Glock One of 5 default songs will play if you have no song equipped Song name and artist will print in chat 22 songs! Some classics, some new. Song list and previews are up in the CS:GO Store Items guide When LR activates during LastCT, both remaining players are granted invincibility for 1 second to prevent accidental kills during LR Many bug fixes
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YeEternalTuna
YeEternalTuna reacted to Tekk for a post in a topic
You can get annoyed about a situation, but at the end of the day, it's how you handle that annoyance which proves that you are a good staff member. After a few nights sleep, I think that really the best option here would be to possibly give Tuna another chance. Give him PM and see what happens; I see no harm in that. Who knows; maybe giving Tuna staff could be the best decision the higherups could ever make for TF2. I apologise @YeEternalTuna if I have offended you or if anything I have said in this thread has been out of line in any way. +1 for PM -
1 pointnice @tree_ and @Shadower! i need to get more into python. you can do some pretty cool poop with it!
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1 pointHappy 22nd birthday to me!
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butt reacted to FrostyBoiGrim for a post in a topic
+1, haven't seen you on as much but you have improved alot maturity wise. Complete turn around, great job! A: 6 M: 8 -
1 pointIm doing an IB program in order to enter college as a junior, so basically High School College??
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0 pointsspam the link on surf
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Quick PSA: How to Civilly Discuss
FrostyBoiGrim reacted to Aegean for a post in a topic
@virr Got anything to say for yourself you toxic boy -
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0 pointsDon't sweat it dude, not your fault. Also, I don't think there's much need for you to start off with a clean slate, I believe you've improved a lot in the past few weeks. I've seen it myself! I'm glad you still want to improve though, and I'll be looking forward to it! ?
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0 pointsMy name... and my lucky number(17) then 80 for flow
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How did you make your username?
Lithium reacted to Dannypicacho for a post in a topic
Next Question: how did you come up with your password -
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YeEternalTuna
realBelloWaldi reacted to OneGlove for a post in a topic
Uber Upgrades, during when Tuna was still mod, whenever I killed him, I spammed "lel". Instead of warning me, he proceeded to get upset at me and near insult me downright, infront of other servergoers. Pokemon Trade, before he was mod. Being disrespectful to many players that killed him and was unpleasing to be around. As I said, he has definitely changed and I'm more than settled on giving him a positive vouch. Examples seem unnecissary when I'm intent on being positive. Also, what grammatical error is there in my post? If you want to give me bad ratings to lower my rank, at least be upfront about it. -
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Whats your favorite map on TGH
Tatost reacted to SoundsSmores for a post in a topic
Im curious on what peoples favorite maps are. ( i swear to bejebus if i see like 100 post about bunker im gonna die, more power to ye of you like it) -
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tree_
Dannypicacho reacted to FrostyBoiGrim for a post in a topic
+1, tree is a respectable guy who loves to play and have fun. Is he the most mature? No, no where close. Is he the most outspoken? No, just no. Is he reliable, consistent, funny, enjoyable, and responsible? Hell yes he is. While he doesn't deserve the spot as much as some other people applying, he still deserves a spot. -
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Thorax_ reacted to FrostyBoiGrim for a post in a topic
Ok, yeah sorry if it makes little to no sense ive been getting only about an hour of sleep this psst week.