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Division Counter-Strike In-Game Name johnGalt42 Identity steam 0029434404 Position Administrator Time Active on Servers xG Information lithium i want to help you to kick or ban me ok lithium I have read the staff submission rules and meet the requirements for the division I'm applying for. Yes

Although harassment is not something unknown to the community prior to this post, I thought I would reflect on the state of the problem as it currently stands. This thread will make me seem even more like a high school counselor, which I really couldn't care less about. Harassment generally goes hand-in-hand with drama, which @Caleb956 explained perfectly in his recent thread. (See below) Quite recently I've seen certain players/members being harassed over complete bullshit. As someone who was previously kicked out of the community entirely, I find it infuriating that staff members haven't been cracking down on the people who do it on the daily. Some specific examples of harassment going on in both CS and TF2 would be the situations surrounding @DepressedNeonNepp and @Lottamos. People constantly throw their names around as insults or attempt to troll them to the point where they will get angry, leave the server/community for x amount of time. I won't call out specific names, but I've seen plenty of members and staff partaking in these sorts of activities. As I said previously, we're a gaming community, not an exclusive club. Make people feel welcome. Please stop trying to push people out of the community. You can never really get to know a person if you constantly harass them. For example, when people pick on Nep they portray him as this toxic little asshole when he really isn't. I've seen him a few times on the CS surf server (albeit he was under an alias at the time) and he was a genuinely enjoyable person. Now, I know school shooters are kind of a touchy subject on here, but I'd like to use a TEDx Talk to illustrate my point that being kind to someone can keep them from making bad decisions. If I cross some sort of line linking the video, I can understand and invite any forum staff to go ahead and cut out this section of my rant. Although I highly encourage everyone to both read the entirety of my post and watch the entire video, I'll insert a TL;DR. TL;DR - This community is plagued with members, staff and random players that can't seem to control themselves when it comes to harassing another person online. The argument that this is the internet and you shouldn't take anything seriously is complete horseshit, stop using it. Please be kind to other players instead of antagonizing them over nothing. Staff members need to start cracking down on this sort of behavior, be a part of the solution, not part of the problem.

umm it was 14 BI-weekly... It has already been 7 a week for years now. Also people don't usually respond to calladmins save the couple saints who do. It was 20 hours biweekly before the reduction friend.

In-Game Name johnGalt42 Primary Division Counter-Strike Previous Member No Profile steam42 Age 13 Previously Banned No Time Active on Servers xG sever Reason for Joining i play xg i like jb i play xg all i play with Danny and brady and lithium and jadow and darrth and

This. It bothers me so much when people say shit like "it's just a game" or "it's just the internet". People still have fucking feelings, we're all real people behind real screens.

Division Counter-Strike Offenders In-Game Name johnGalt42 Offender's Identity Danny Ban Type Server Ban Explanation and Evidence i want to ban poeple

Hi it is me, mrnutty12, and I'm finally stepping down. I have never really liked long winded blocks of text because they bore me to death, so I won't subject you guys to one listing off every little insignificant detail as to why I am stepping down. Suffice it to say I have neither the motivation nor the interest that I used to have for leading the tf2 division, especially not what I would personally consider acceptable from myself. (eg 10k+ hours in a game kinda makes it feel a bit stale yadda yadda not really a shocker there) I'll still pop in on the servers now and again when I feel like it, I am just done with higherup business and being staff in general. And a few personal notes... (sorry if I miss you but I am not going through every person I know to write something for) @PichuBoi @Kypari I can't apologize enough for some of the things I have said to you. @SegFault I probably won't delete my files and stuff so if you need to find them and I didn't leave such in the appropriate places feel free to ask @Tekk helo tekage @Caleb956 sand. @Dannypicacho A jug is superior to the bag and you should learn how to shotgun. @DiaperHyperWolf Awoo @Precious Also awoo @Semper @virr 01010100 01101000 01100001 01101110 01101011 01110011 00100000 01100110 01101111 01110010 00100000 01100010 01100101 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100110 01101111 01110010 00100000 01110101 01110011 00100000 01110100 01100110 00110010 00100000 01110000 01100101 01101111 01110000 01101100 01100101 00101110 @Lithium Thanks for the help when we were being dinguses with code and such.

People just don't care about the effect their words are going to have on someone else. Even myself, little things that people say that really shouldn't mean much get to me and can really sour my mood. Whether it's Goldfish or just a random on the server, anytime someone is taking it too far I shut it down as fast as I can because I know how damaging it can be for people to just constantly harass you. This is especially true for people that do it because they think being mean to someone is cool or will make other people like them. Now, this isn't to say that you should be taking a little bit of trash talk or banter as harassment. That will always be a part of the game. It's harassment when they're personally targeting and insulting you - that is the problem. Think about what you say before you say it. There's a reason that the saying "treat others the way you want to be treated" is thrown around so much.

@mrnutty12

I don't care too much about the things that you said to me because at the end of the day I said some shit to you too but I've always felt like no matter what happens in higherup chat or xG related stuff we will still be good friends. Love you dude

@mrnutty12

I freaked out at people a week or two ago for the same reason, people are way too trigger happy to throw other people under the bus and its really upsetting. Good post tat!

chair.

This has been quite a long time coming. I will be stepping down from the TF2 division. Got really bored of TF2 and kinda tired of forcing myself to play. Not really sure what else to say so I'll just keep this short. Bye. i'm joking sorry.

Another one bites the dust, you're an amazing person and you always tried your best to help anyone. Thank you for everything my friend. Best of luck with your future, as long as I can at least stay in contact with you I will be happy. Stay well and keep on being you, as you are an amazing role model and an amazing person. I'll miss you pal, I really will.

It's been 18 days.

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Honestly, he needs his own role of "Assistant to the Moderator". +1

What is below this paragraph states how I personally feel about the state of the servers and the TF2 division as a whole right now. No other person had any part in this, so if anyone is to be questioned then that person is me. I don’t mean this thread to attack anyone, but its important it gets out there one way or another. I may be being completely irrational with this post, but this is several years worth of frustrations summed up into a single thread, so I apologize in advance. If you are new here, I'm a previous Division Leader, I've been staff several times, and am currently an admin of the Team Fortress 2 servers. Take this thread as you will. Drama Between several servers, different discords, groups, there has been on common theme between all of them. That theme, is the absolute inability of people to get along with other people that have opposing views, creating drama. There are times that a simple discussion turns into an absolute shitfest for no reason at all, and fuel must be added to the fire no matter what in order to fit each person's own narrative. There are also times when people are constantly mocked on the servers for one reason or another, and when they ask the person who is doing it to the stop the response is usually “get over it” or “just local mute them”. How is that a solution we should be enforcing at all? If people are mocking someone just to annoy them, or get a reaction, or whatever other reason, it is harassment, and should be handled as such. When things are agreed upon and finished, it doesn’t come lightly, it comes when one person steps in and says let's get this done with, almost as if the two opposing parties are unable to even communicate without being at each others throats, let alone negotiate, unless a third party steps in. It’s time to brighten up and get along with each other. You may be asking, “why is this a problem?” Or you may be rolling your eyes at this point, well I'm directing this at everyone. With the rate of how things are going, these servers we love to play on could very well be dead sooner than any of us think if something doesn’t change. If that doesn’t concern you can you really call yourself a community member? It's all of our jobs to not only maintain the servers, and not only to play on the servers, but the most important job of all of us, is to have fun playing on the servers, not only for ourselves but for others. We all represent xG, even if you aren’t a part of the clan, when you are playing on the servers, talking on the forums, or in the discord, you are representing xG and who we are as a clan. Do we really want drama to be the thing that defines us when people look at the clan? Do we really want people to walk away because of it? I know I don't, and I sure hope you don’t either. It doesn’t matter if “it's just online”, everyone here is a real person, with feelings of their own, we aren't built the same, and we weren't built to handle emotions the same as the next person. If someone has a problem with how you act towards them, or how you treat them, then it's time to lighten up and be considerate for other people's feelings. As is such with the Castroy situation, he is repeatedly mocked with a phrase that is very well known to hurt him, but it is continued anyways because those doing it like seeing the reaction, or seeing that it annoys him. This can be solved with one word. Respect. Another issue I'd like to bring up, is how things are handled in the division. On several occasions I've seen people say “well not many people are complaining about it so it's not that big of a problem”. I firmly believe that having that kind of mindset will drag the division down, we should not be waiting for people to complain to get things fixed, or removed, or added, etc. Our priority should be looking at the issue that is at hand, even if it was mentioned by a single person, and seeing what we can do about it. Fix the issue before it becomes a problem, don't wait until the boat has already sank. On the surf server, there is a well known issue with the checkpoint saver plugin, where it resets your saved position with no warning. I tried several times as a DL to get it fixed to no avail. That being said, I saw someone say that their checkpoint got reset, I didn’t see their name but a few times beforehand but I could see they were genuinely disappointed. The only solution that was offered was to “jiggle your mouse around a bit and test before you walk away”, which is all fine and dandy, except for the fact that simply, they shouldn't HAVE to. We do things to make the experience more enjoyable for all players, if a new player joined and saw that their progress was reset for no reason they'd probably think otherwise and not feel too good about the server at that point. After I saw that, I took it upon myself to finally sit down and fix the plugin once and for all, I didn't do it for myself, or for the higher ups, I did it for HIM, the one who brought it up. That's where the issue of “waiting until it becomes a problem” comes into play. Nobody else thought it was a problem, even the higherup I sent it to( @SegFault ) so he could add it to the server, but when it's affecting our players, at that point it IS A PROBLEM, whether it is widespread or not. I believe this can be attributed to one word: Motivation. Something I feel several of our higher ups are lacking, or at least a good portion of the time, especially when it comes to working on the servers. As a DL your job is the same as everyone else, but you have the responsibility to actually add to the servers and fix what's wrong. I'm not saying @mrnutty12 and @SegFault don’t do anything, but it feels like when they can't figure something out they just give up and wait until someone else( @Lithium ) figures it out. In my eyes this shows a complete and utter lack of motivation, and unwillingness to work. You don't have to be working on the servers at all times, but if you are unwilling to dedicate time to it then why are you in such a position? An example of this is with @mrnutty12. I won’t lie and say I don't get frustrated with you when it comes to server work, because I do. And I won't lie and say I'm always nice when I bring it up to you, because I'm not. But when you threaten to step down everytime I DO bring it up to you what does that say? It shows me personally you're unwilling to take criticism for your actions. You have told me yourself that people think you're lazy, and you think you're useless, but you don't try to change. How can you sit there and guilt yourself when there's no attempt being made. I don’t do it to try and hurt you, or push you away, I tell you how it is because it should be a red flag that clearly something is wrong, and that it should change. Another example: Population events quickly went from several times a week to sometimes not even happening once a week, whether that be from lack of players, or those who set them up just not wanting to do them. This issue is not only directed at the higher ups, it could be directed at the division as a whole. To me it feels like many people just don't care what happens anymore, as long as x server has players on then they’re happy, those servers normally being surf or tgh. It's almost as if some people would rather see the server they like completely filled and the other server completely dead, that doesn't sound like a healthy community or playerbase if you ask me. Management Management wise, I don't think anyone could ask for a better staff team, but like all teams, we have our faults. Disagreements on rule matter Many times I have seen staff enforce a rule in wildly different ways than the next staff, which if it gets the job done is fine, but not when its creating a false idea of what they can and can not do. There have also been times that I've seen rules enforced that I've never even seen or heard of. Obviously we will never all enforce things exactly the same, but there should be more efforts to try. This comes down to one thing, consistency. Arguing in the servers, or discord Disagreeing with each other is a given, it's not that big of a deal, but how it is handled is absolutely a problem. A good example of this would be of what I saw last night. I won't give any names in order to provide anonymity but basically, there were two sides. One side said he or she did this on the server and then put the blame on someone else because of x reason, and the other side disagreed and said the person that was blamed was the one who actually stated the issue on the server. Keep in mind, there were witnesses on both sides that had different stories, and there was no solid evidence of either stories. Both sides were at each others neck for over half an hour, over something that couldn’t lead anywhere, and then it was attributed to them “trolling” or being “passive aggressive”. These weren't just people that had just joined the server either, these were including staff members, higher ups as well. Quite frankly it's sad to see it happening. Rules It's no secret many people think we are too strict on rules. While I think rules are important to have, at a certain point it needs to come down to staff discretion. In order to do that though we'd need something I mentioned earlier, consistency. As it is right now, I think all of our rules are fair, and they make sense, BUT the matter is, is that we have too many. I understand the want for rules to be specific, and I also understand the rules to be generalize, it should be somewhere in between. Have some trust in our staff and give the players some freedom. We can still enforce the rules, but we don't need to have a 2 page long list of rules, either. Conclusion I won’t sit here and put the blame for what's happening on one person, because what's happening is all of our faults, and that means the only way things will change is if everyone works together. We are all told that the servers losing players can be attributed to “the game dying”, that’s not a good reason. If anything, that tells me we need to push harder than before to get our servers back to where they should be. There are rumors that are thrown around on the daily of “they said this” or “they did that”, and there are constant disagreements within our own staff team, and times when staff are at each other's throats while on the servers. There are times when the entire server is riled up because of situations like this. How many people have to leave before something changes? I didn't plan on coming back so soon originally even considering the irl information I learned, but I also didn’t plan on never coming back. I came back because I saw what was happening, and I care for this clan more than damn near anything, and I'm not willing to let this continue without at least trying to get it fixed, it's time for people to take off this mask as if everything is fine in the community and buckle up and get this figured out. If you disagree with me, then feel free, if you agree with me then feel free; but no matter who you are, it's time for things to change around here. We are supposed to be a community, a community traditionally is a group of people who share common interests, and goals. What kind of community are we when we aren’t acting like one. Edit: How the bulletpoints are SUPPOSED to look..

Next up: The TF2 division itself steps down from being a division.

+1 tbh he should just get promoted to Co-Leader. I don't see why not.

+1 just make him DL honestly

The 10mans once again consumed another soul ?

YES SIR +1

Nutty, you already know this but just as a reminder, thank you for all that you have given to me and helped me achieve. I know we've had rough patches but I damn well know I wouldn't be here if it weren't for your tireless support and help. You truly are a role model to me. Ill keep this short and sweet. Never change and I hope you continue to hang around. You've been a blessing to xG.

now you can dedicate more time to becoming a shotgun master

while I can see why you would write this, I am going to throw my own side down. People leave step down from staff not because of requirements, but because the game isn't fun or its for their own good. @Kypari originally stepped down for his own health @mrnutty12 stepped down because hes clocked in over 10k hours so yeah, the game would get boring for him @Caleb956 stepped down earlier because it wasn't fun Point is, everybody has their own reason for leaving. Also before it was 14 hours, it was something along the lines of 30 hours every 2 weeks or something crazy so lowering it for 14 to something else would be a poor idea as the staff would think that they aren't needed and will only go for the minimum requirements, leaving basically no staff on the servers when needed. I understand you said this, but staff are volunteers and have their own lives. So if the requirement were to be lowered, it would probably in turn lower the amount of staff available at one time as they would make plans for their own life. That is just my own take on the subject. I'm not saying I'm right in anyway, just my viewpoint.

I think we should just stop being dicks to each others. Some people have different opinions and thats ok. Sadly, a lot of people don't understand that nowadays, but the amount of hate that gets thrown around because one likes strawberry over vanilla (exaggerated for effect. you get the point) is incredible.

Srsly tho ill miss u. thank for for sticking around for as long as you did and helping me in times of need

You're one of the most wholesome members in our community. Big F

No mention for me? I am sad now. You have done plenty for the TF2 division. We must now establish the Jet Force Gemini division.

if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

forward air forward air bouncing fish

Civ 5 or broke

+I’ve known him for 2 years from another server, honestly great guy

HELLA +1

+1 Activity. 10. Maturity. 10. High marks right? Wrong. You're just nothing compared to John. Get in his way and you're gonna get Galted.

Don't even know this guy, but he seems cool, fuck it +1

active, been around for a while, and less annoying than danny +2

It's been a crazy 2 weeks for xG tf2. Holy shit.

I mean I don't really know you. The only thing I know about you is that you make this stupid posts asking for hate from people and it honestly isn't good. Even as a joke, don't try to incite people to hate you. It isn't a healthy thing to do. As of right I'd say 6

@Wave420_ Can't believe none of you guys put this one. Other than @Tatost taking away sakamoto that should be all the openings. if we allowing EDs

Yay Ohio is cold

Do you guys want more recipes that I make at work? It's an Italian restaurant so it's a lot of pasta, and a fish/steak plate. I can get you marinades we use for shrimp etc too that we cook.

Stfu Im not crying, just sweating through my eyeballs ?

OwO

true gamer spends countless hours doing volunteer work making a minecraft server for people to enjoy people play on the server for two months and then it dies server is reset feelsbadman

I see it in both CS and TF2, hence why I provided some examples from both divisions. I only used those two as examples because they're widely known.

I cannot find your ban. I've tried searching the name and steam ID. I'm probably just a retard and fucked something up : (