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Due to the fact that no warning was issued in chat, I am going to +1 for unban. As for the calladmin thing, can we get a screenshot of that tatost? @Sesh @mrnutty12

I do not really mind not being unbanned any longer. I am just trying to justify my reasoning so that when I return to the server after my ban, me and tatost will be neutral with one another.

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To be fair, it's at that point you should've given a clear text explanation to your actions, the user was confused and in turned called for an admin, even though you were on. Once again, still going to +1 for unban.

I think what Tatost is saying is that he kicked him for "Disregarding Staff" not using the colorme command. So my guess is that the user is lying by saying he didnt have his sound turned o. :thinking:

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[ATTACH=full]28371[/ATTACH] I think he knew exactly why I had kicked him the second time lol

Yeah, assumed that was the reason you had kicked me, an I called for another admin to help sort out the confusion as I prepared my microphone.

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[ATTACH=full]28371[/ATTACH] I think he knew exactly why I had kicked him the second time lol

Well he did say that's what he had assumed you kicked him for, but in his mind that is not wrong as most of the staff usually ignores the /colorme while in friendly. With that being said, we really should go over whether or not we should allow that, as it seems it's under confusion.

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Im neutral on the case, and it's a day ban so not the biggest deal, but I will say it's always been my opinion that the responsibility for making sure warnings are heard falls on staff and only staff. You're a more trusted member for a reason and more is expected of you. Use voice and text chat both in most situations to be 100% sure. Some players will have voice off, some never read chat. It's just better/safer to cover your bases.

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If I was banned for ignoring staff, then it was because I had my voice receive volume off, as I did not see any messages from them in chat.

 

That's not our fault. Nor is it an excuse.

When you join the server you are to assume that staff use their mic's and/or chat. It's not a good idea to block any form of communication especially when staff members are on because you could be missing something important like as you did in this situation.

 

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I can see where you're coming from when you mute your volume especially joining a trade servers which usually have people talking on them and sometimes they're loud or you just don't want to talk to them (something along the lines of that) and you mute your volume for the voice chat. Now what people usually do when they have ''no sound'' what they do is they sometimes tell the whole server ''Hey guys I dont have the voice chat volume on just a heads up'' you know something like that or they would sometimes put it in their names for people to know that you have the voice chat volume muted. But in your case I can't really tell if you're telling the truth or not but I feel as though you aren't lying about that or else this whole ban protest would be a waste of time considering you're trying your best to make sure you aren't seen as a stubborn person and can actually talk in a polite and courteous way to make sure you don't cause an issue within the protest. +1 from me because I honestly feel like tatost should've used the chat to communicate more towards this player in chat in order to fully warn him so when he breaks the rule its all on the player and not the staff members fault for not communicating enough with the player.

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Reasons to have voice volume off:

-People that are being loud or have annoying voices

-People using slang or being rude to players they kill

-People who repeat what they're trading in voice chat over and over

-People who spam music (though these are mostly muted or banned)

 

Reasons to have voice volume on:

-The rare off chance that someone is only using voice chat to talk to me, rather than text chat

 

This is just kinda my mindset right now... I just don't like constantly having to mute people when I can just have my volume off, because people talking in voice chat is almost never positive when I hear it.

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People have been trolling purposefully using friendly alot, I personally got used to colorized friendly people as a lot of donators do that.

If you see someone grabbing you without you being happy with it, talk to them about it, ask for justification on why they've done it. Doing so would require you to have voice turned on as you need to hear them, staff shouldn't be muted as a whole as they could say something directed to you that you have to hear.

Tatost not using chat doesn't justify you having volume off and appealing about your ban, the ban is justified, and you should learn from this rather than appealing.

In addition to that @Tatost stated that you've been trolling too.

 

I also want to know why you colorize yourself in friendly mode to begin with.

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People have been trolling purposefully using friendly alot, I personally got used to colorized friendly people as a lot of donators do that.

If you see someone grabbing you without you being happy with it, talk to them about it, ask for justification on why they've done it. Doing so would require you to have voice turned on as you need to hear them, staff shouldn't be muted as a whole as they could say something directed to you that you have to hear.

Tatost not using chat doesn't justify you having volume off and appealing about your ban, the ban is justified, and you should learn from this rather than appealing.

In addition to that @Tatost stated that you've been trolling too.

 

I also want to know why you colorize yourself in friendly mode to begin with.

A player having their volume off is a completely justifiable reason when staff refuses to give proper warnings through text chat at least once before banning them. As for the colorized while friendly thing, you shouldn't instantly start pointing fingers calling it "trolling". It's a donator perk that the donators have decided to use to get around an annoying quirk with the friendly plugin, which is the transparency. We're currently going over the colorizing while friendly thing in private and will let everyone know when we finish up there.

 

Also just to clarify, I made a PSA going over how to give a proper warning: Staff Psa: Issuing Warnings. This isn't the only incident I've had to go over recently and I think now would be a good time to get it out there.

 

Now as for the protest, @Bello @mrnutty12, we going to unban him or not? His ban is almost up and @Sesh has already agreed.

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A player having their volume off is a completely justifiable reason when staff refuses to give proper warnings through text chat at least once before banning them. As for the colorized while friendly thing, you shouldn't instantly start pointing fingers calling it "trolling". It's a donator perk that the donators have decided to use to get around an annoying quirk with the friendly plugin, which is the transparency. We're currently going over the colorizing while friendly thing in private and will let everyone know when we finish up there.

 

Also just to clarify, I made a PSA going over how to give a proper warning: Staff Psa: Issuing Warnings. This isn't the only incident I've had to go over recently and I think now would be a good time to get it out there.

 

Now as for the protest, @Bello @mrnutty12, we going to unban him or not? His ban is almost up and @Sesh has already agreed.

I did point out on the server that I would be fine if he colored himself to an abnormal color like green, red, violet, pink, orange, etc.

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