PSA: Punishing Donator Abuse

There has been a lot of confusion on how to deal with Donator abuse, so the TF2 higher ups have discussed this subject and we came up with a little something:

• What counts as Donator abuse?
  

Breaking our guidelines/rules on Donator powers that can be found here: Donator Information | Xeno Gamers

Someone purposely misusing Donator powers is not allowed, an example would be killing people with noclip.

However, I expect our staff to use common sense to determine whether something was intentional or accidental. Let's say someone buys über Donator and wants to test out his powers. They use /kartme and accidentally bump into another person. In situations like these, where someone was obviously just having an accident, it is not necessary to punish them. Try to explain the command to them to prevent this from happening in the future. Then again, if someone who had Donator powers for quite a while just charges into enemies with /kartme, they should be punished.

Now let's get to the interesting part:

• How to punish abusive Donators:
  

The protocol in these cases is:

Warn -> Kick -> Day Ban

Kick -> Week Ban + Removal of powers

If they're abusing for the first time, give them a warning through chat and tell them what they've done wrong. If they do not listen, kick them. If they come back after a kick, you can ban them for a day. If they come back after a day ban and abuse again, you do not have to warn them again. Jump straight to a kick. If they come back after a kick and do it again, ban them for a week and notify the higher ups so we can remove their powers.

• A few things to add:
  

As mentioned earlier, you shouldn't follow this protocol when someone accidentally screws up - it has happened to everyone.

Additionally, it does not matter if someone has been banned before, this protocol applies for Donators regardless of their ban history (unless they have been banned for abuse before, obviously). To make it more clear, here's an example:

If someone has a day ban for bodyblocking and abuses their powers, do not kick them and then jump to a week ban.

[spoiler=Tags]- @Bello

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Sounds great! What about if they have been in trouble for donator abuse in the past? Are we starting the system again?

Actually I've never had problems with any donator before. The real problem I've seen very common is They didn't read the donators rules first.

Most of our donators are valued

members and they know the rules perfectly Well and they don't want to lose their powers so I think they are going to follow our rules however nothing is perfect, probably someone is going use those powers to break our rules so to avoid confusion we need to record and Give then the last warning in chat and voice chat after the week ban +Removal of powers because they are going to use the excuse of admin abuse and we need proves.

Put yourself into the donator's shoes they are going to fight for their powers so most of them are going to use the ban protest or in the worst case admin abuse report to give their power back.

I agree with Bello's protocol we need to think in the future and how they are going to act after losing their powers.

I only use buddha so I'll try not to set off those pesky sentries.

Actually I've never had problems with any donator before. The real problem I've seen very common is They didn't read the donators rules first.

 

Most of our donators are valued

members and they know the rules perfectly Well and they don't want to lose their powers so I think they are going to follow our rules however nothing is perfect, probably someone is going use those powers to break our rules so to avoid confusion we need to record and Give then the last warning in chat and voice chat after the week ban +Removal of powers because they are going to use the excuse of admin abuse and we need proves.

 

Put yourself into the donator's shoes they are going to fight for their powers so most of them are going to use the ban protest or in the worst case admin abuse report to give their power back.

 

I agree with Bello's protocol we need to think in the future and how they are going to act after losing their powers.

Damn Vac I've never seen such a well written post from you! (y) (y) (y)

Bello has tag you for for Punishing Donor Abuse....

You scared the shit out of me thinking I lost my Donor doing something I haven't done... yet :3

Something I like to do is use the following commands:

>(Change class heavy, no items or cosmetics (except fists of steel)
!friendly
!colorme normal
!resizeme (200%)
!robot

Essentially I look like a giant robot who's attacking people, but I'm actually in friendly mode. Now, because of how big I am, and keep in mind I'm not translucent like I would be normally (colorme normal). It's loads of fun to make people thing a giant robot is shooting at them when I'm really not.

Technially, I'm not breaking any rules and I've done this with staff literally right in front of me (and even fooled @sick41057 :P).

Now, I just want to open this up for debate, because as much as I like doing it, it does have some questionable parts to it.

1) I'm a giant, I kinda block people's sight lines, especially on smaller maps.

2) People actually think I'm attacking them (until they realize they're taking no damage)

3) Basically, I'm a distraction. Now, while many donator commands are meant to be distracting and cosmetic, I'm a giant!!

What do you guys think? Is this still OK or in a gray area or should we disallow it from now on?

Something I like to do is use the following commands:

>(Change class heavy, no items or cosmetics (except fists of steel)
!friendly
!colorme normal
!resizeme (200%)
!robot

Essentially I look like a giant robot who's attacking people, but I'm actually in friendly mode. Now, because of how big I am, and keep in mind I'm not translucent like I would be normally (colorme normal). It's loads of fun to make people thing a giant robot is shooting at them when I'm really not.

Technially, I'm not breaking any rules and I've done this with staff literally right in front of me (and even fooled @sick41057 :p).

 

Now, I just want to open this up for debate, because as much as I like doing it, it does have some questionable parts to it.

1) I'm a giant, I kinda block people's sight lines, especially on smaller maps.

2) People actually think I'm attacking them (until they realize they're taking no damage)

3) Basically, I'm a distraction. Now, while many donator commands are meant to be distracting and cosmetic, I'm a giant!!

 

What do you guys think? Is this still OK or in a gray area or should we disallow it from now on?

Donators can resize 200? I tought The límit is 2.5 .... :/

Donators can resize 200? I tought The límit is 2.5 .... :/

Oh yeah my bad

Well for me... Is not

Something I like to do is use the following commands:

>(Change class heavy, no items or cosmetics (except fists of steel)
!friendly
!colorme normal
!resizeme (200%)
!robot

Essentially I look like a giant robot who's attacking people, but I'm actually in friendly mode. Now, because of how big I am, and keep in mind I'm not translucent like I would be normally (colorme normal). It's loads of fun to make people thing a giant robot is shooting at them when I'm really not.

Technially, I'm not breaking any rules and I've done this with staff literally right in front of me (and even fooled @sick41057 :p).

 

Now, I just want to open this up for debate, because as much as I like doing it, it does have some questionable parts to it.

1) I'm a giant, I kinda block people's sight lines, especially on smaller maps.

2) People actually think I'm attacking them (until they realize they're taking no damage)

3) Basically, I'm a distraction. Now, while many donator commands are meant to be distracting and cosmetic, I'm a giant!!

 

What do you guys think? Is this still OK or in a gray area or should we disallow it from now on?

For me it's not a problem, because you are in friendly... Donators rules said do not use those powers to give you an unfair advantage or do something to change the Gameplay. To be honest you are not changing anything, apart from that. Is extremly easy to know,if you are in friendly or not. The real problem is...the snipers can not snipe well but in my point of view 2.5 or 2.0 is not really huge. SoOoOoOo... It's OK for me.

Is extremly easy to know,if you are in friendly or not.

Except it's not because I use

>!colorme normal

to remove the translucent effect.

People would only know I'm friendly if they shot me and realized I didn't take any damage, or I shot them and they noticed they didn't take any damage. I usually takes them like 5 seconds for them to realize the trick.

That's still OK?

Donators can resize 200? I tought The límit is 2.5 .... :/

Wait a sec I just checked and it's actually 200% after all. :rolleyes:

(and even fooled @sick41057 :p).

i was shooting you for a funny meymey now stop bullying me

Except it's not because I use

>!colorme normal

to remove the translucent effect.

People would only know I'm friendly if they shot me and realized I didn't take any damage, or I shot them and they noticed they didn't take any damage. I usually takes them like 5 seconds for them to realize the trick.

 

That's still OK?

Personally, I would prefer anyone in friendly that choose to color themselves, it should be anything EXCEPT normal or tan.

That way people know "hey they are using commands on themselves they might be in friendly.

Damn Vac I've never seen such a well written post from you! (y) (y) (y)

Same, its such a sudden change o.o I am incredibly impressed!