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Follow a random sampling of prisons for say 20 years minimum. The data should be tabulated by race and gender first. Then cross-reference it with offenses committed to discover the truth.

Made sense but you would get a flawed interpretation.

There isn't really a need to follow people for 20 years either, unless you wanted to show changes in growth (or if you wanted a job for 20 years, but that is a statistics secret).

Essentially, what you are proposing is a multiple regression and you want to find the best predictor for incarceration. Race would have a strong correlation, but its predictive capabilities would be consumed by any measure of poverty. Split the African American population by incomes and you will see a vast drop in incarceration rates which suggests that it is important to fund inner city schools and African American scholarships.

Edit. I am going in deeper here.

So when people associate black people with jail life, it is factually accurate (descriptive statistics) but intellectually misleading. I work with a lot of data that suggests that men and less intelligent than women, but gender isn't the primary cause. So if you perpetuate the stereotype on the simple factual level of descriptive statistics, you'll misinterpret data and risk harming people.

So when people use these words associated with certain races, it is reinforcing the misinformed descriptive statistics about jail profiles.

But the admins have made it clear they they do not mean to use the language in a racially associated way. Doesn't seem like the Brony thing to do, any.

Since we are talking about the N-word. Why aren't we also discussing the impact of the word "wigger" or a shortening of the term, white nigger. That is also a demeaning term but no one cares about it.

It is a very complicated situation. While a lot of people feel comfortable with that word, i do not. I don't like the word is because you are making fun of a certain type of people for acting black, because only black people are suppose to be "unintelligent", "like rap", etc. There is a good documentary called Blacking Up that tries to address white people who "act black" and how society reacts to that.

Points that are brought up

1. White people are harassed/beat up by other white people for appearing to be in the hip-hop culture

2. Black face

3. Imitation is a form of flattery

Here is the video, scroll down halfway to watch Blacking Up. http://commten.weebly.com/extra-credit.html

EDIT. i would like to add the reason why people are comfortable using that word is because it does have a history of oppression. Turns out today, white people use it against other white people as you'll see in the documentary.

My position is that i am okay if you want to be white and act like a hip hop artist; skin isn't the important factor, culture and income are vastly more significant. Problems often arise when you do it just to make fun of like the music producers did with Vanilla Ice.

Thank you Aegean for your response. What type of psychology? Graduate or undergraduate? I have two tips if you are entering college for the first time; be a boss with 1. statistics and 2. take a Womens Studies and a African American studies class. Many students expect psychology is just about helping people, and then they find out it is a lot of statistics and research. The other hand is that psychology is often limited because people attribute findings to biology instead of the potential diversity of human behavior. Just have a basic understanding of two major minority groups can take a lot of the poop out of research.

When you take a research methods class and if you use SPSS, buy a version of it on StudentDiscount.com. It'll save you a lot of time and you'll be a lot more valuable if you become fluent on it.

but you honestly are pretty close-minded on the opinions of others.

I actually use to be part of this crowed. Take two years off my life and i would have been right there with everyone in this thread (4chan, lulz, umad?, etc). I would have cited freedom of speech or something like "if we use the word then we take away the meaning" or "you need to stop being ofended, it is just a wor I do feel uncomfortable talking about struggles of other minorities as a member to the majority, but there isn't a way to get around it.

Thank you for your response.

Edit: "TL;DR: We are not the problem, you must target internet as a whole with your ambition, not a public gaming community with thousands of new people monthly."

Perhaps. A lot of people want to end hunger in the world. However, they cannot just attack hunger. Research often teachers that when you do statistical tests, K.I.S.S., keep it simple stupid. Start fighting hunger by setting a small goal that X is going to feed Y children with two meals a day for Z months. I am trying to do the same by finding communities that are fun and friendly. When i find communities like that, then i'll support them anyway i can.

McNeo, I made it clear that i have a problem with that language, and yet you keep on using that language against me.

You're not going to change others behavior but good luck.

But that is the whole principle to jail break. The rules of CSS use to be Ts vs CTs, kill each other. The rules of the game mode changes everyone's in game behaviors. When CTs free kill, other people say "hey dude, not cool", then they either stop or they continue. If they continue then they get banned/slayed/etcetcetc

You can change behavior and it is rather easy.

Thank you, by the way, for changing the tone of the discussion. I fell much more comfortable posting.

First, what is the definition of racism? Racism is the term or diction of being discriminative towards a specific ethnic group of any kind, also due to your so-called "Psychology" experiences; it seems highly relevant that they are come across lessons concerning the human's thought process and many others factions related to affecting the human mind such as cultural properties, past experiences, etc. It is always generalized that the human mind is however limited, judgment is always second nature. Of course, this is purely obvious- and yes, racism is a problematic occurrence as you stated, but- it does not mean there is a possible miracle solution to easing human relations.

Hey, i first off want to say thank you. You have been one of the few people not to respond by perpetuationg the reason why i am posting here. Even if we end up disagreeing, i really appreciate the mature response. May your back be covered as a CT, and may your jail breaking be plentiful as a T, and may your steam wallet be full of cash.

I agree there isn't a magical solution to the problem. I do institutional research for a University, so i work with a lot of data that could be horribly misinterpreted. I took it upon myself to learn about women and African American rights so that i do not make a mistake in interpreting my data. I am always constantly looking out for interesting sociology lessons because psychology has had a bad history with ignoring how fluid personality and culture can be. We often make mistakes assuming things like homosexuality were once mental disorders.

Most people have recgonized that using certain words are wrong; this community has done a lot of that. But i think if people took the next step of just casually letting other people know they probably shouldn't say certain things. idk

Thank you again

and most guys online don't know how to socialize with girls and they often draw attention to themselves on purpose.

And it is the guys' fault.

And don't even say black kids refrain from gaming because that's bullshit, they're all over it, maybe not PC games.

That didn't translate very well. I meant educated African Americans, primarily those who focus on the social struggles of the community. They are not the ones perpetuating words of oppression.

When girls who play videogames act like every other person it cuts down the "sexism."

Who are you to tell girls how to play video games? They can play however they want as long as they are not hurting or harassing you. Women also choose not to talk on the microphone or have feminine names because other users will act out, but that still isn't the woman's fault if other people cannot behave.

Billy Mays is a division leader, and I am also an admin.

Sorry, in this case i meant co-leaders or the leader.

I would actually like to stop the discussion until i get an admins opinion in addition to McNeo's.

I get the feeling that this actually isn't a welcoming and open community that the forum rules lead me to believe.

You're a white male pushing the opposite opinion of us so why do you have anymore credibility?

Because i have listened to educated African Americans and women speak about why they don't like to play video games. The creator of Fat, Ugly or Slutty has outlined pretty well that online video games have not been very accepting of women.

People like you keep racism

I don't keep racism alive. I merely recognize that it still exists instead of pretending like it doesn't. I try to read good amounts of minority literature so that i can understand the unique problems faced by women, African Americans, disabled people, etc.

I also use my background in psychology to understand that our cognition is easily influenced. Telling racist jokes in the back room at work can alter an interviewers preferences. Even something like a cold cup of water can influence an interviewers opinion, statistically. The Hot and Cold of Priming

Would you like to listen to the arguments of the others? Or are you scared that you're wrong.

Honestly, I am not interested in a white/male defending racist opinions. However, if you have experience with psychology, sociology, or have been the target of words of oppression, yeah i am interested.

bless my nigga, yes my nigga, when you think about it could be worse my nigga

African Americans use the N word as a put down word of other African Americans. The word was so powerfully used by white people against African Americans that the word because synonymous with the putting down of other African Americans.

This is also evident in how a lot of Aferican American children wish to be a lighter skin tone; i.e. lighter=better, darker=n-word. UPDATED: AC360 Series: Doll study research Children do not want to be the skin color they are. That is HUGE!

By continually using the word, you are reinforcing it as a word of oppression. By using it in combination of a jail break game, you are reinforcing the societal problem of a disproportional amount of African Americans in the jail system. Without proper analysis, these problems get associated with skin color or culture. In actuality, it has way more to do with culture of poverty.

Edit. Added the proper link here UPDATED: AC360 Series: Doll study research

In my opinion "nigga" is not really that racist. But if people actually say the full racist N word I always take action. I do not appreciate people saying at ALL.

That is a step in the right direction, but there is not a difference between the two words. The problem is people say things like "I don't think it is offensive" or "I don't think it is racist" when they are not even the target group for that oppressive group. It is harder for the majority group to see oppression of minority groups because it seems normal or the majority group doesn't understand it.

If you watch south park, there was an episode where Token was angry at Stan or Kyle. At the end of the episode, Kyle or Stan finally understood how to understand African American problems; understanding that you don't understand.

What just cuz it's jailbreak we are assumed to be all black? Racist.

Why would people be using that language otherwise?

"But, again, if anything is said that offends someone while they are present all you have to do is ask for it to stop and it will."

I may have been here for a short time, maybe 3-4 weeks, but that has only happened once (TurdWig). Often i am met with people mocking me by changing up the language (nikka, lol get it? it isn't racist anymore :uncomfortableness:).

"There are plenty of adults who come here to have a good time, and frankly I feel like we should be able to say whatever we want amongst each other."

Why do you feel that way? Why do some people think it is appropriate to use disrespectful language on the internet or video games?

I am lead to believe on the forums that everyone is beginning to get proactive about this stuff, but i get in game and there are users with names like FurFag and Nikka calling new players retarded and telling kids to shut the fuck up just because they're children. Sometimes i notice admins are online, but most the time my complaints are ignored by xG community members.

>11. [i]Racism and sexism is frowned upon in our servers[/i], using it excessively or in an insulting manner is not allowed at all. IF a mod or higher warn you to stop (by gagging, muting or simply messaging you) , you must stop. This is the first and only warning you get and it must be in this manner. [i]If you do say something racist or sexist, it must be very minimal and not in an offensive way and if not stopped after a warning, you will be punished severally.[/i] The person [i]these comments are directed too[/i] and any staff member can at any time state that these are offensive and you must stop immediately.

This rule doesn't entirely make sense to me: How can something be racist or sexist but be not offensive? Racism and sexism are offensive and are wrong. Even if someone does not find it personally offensive, they can realize that this is obviously offensive.

I hate salads but raspberry vinaigrette is a very fruity dressing. Get some spinach leaves and it is a lot healthier than cabbage. Put the two together and you can almost mask the nasty leaf taste, but get a good healthy meal.

Hey McNeo, you have to understand that you need to be mentally healthy before you can start working on losing weight. Too many people think they'll be happy when they are skinny, and then they fail, and then they get sad, depressed, etc etc.

Understand that losing weight will not make you healthy. Being healthy will make you happy. Don't go cold turkey into any new diet. Don't spend money on any shake weights or medicine. DO NOT BUY DIET PILLS. Diet pills do not help you create a healthy life style.

Easy simple things you can do to begin progressing to a healthy life style minus the cold turkey.

1. You do not need to finish what is on your plate. Save it and eat it later. If you are pushing yourself to clean your plate, you are either eating too much or too little. There is nothing special about plates that dictate how much you are suppose to eat.

2. If you eat out, order an equal amount of water to your soda/drink. Rotate between soda and water. If you are feeling good, limit yourself to one glass of soda.

3. Listen to Pod Casts when you want to walk/run/work out. I listen to PC Gamer on my long bike rides. You can even buy audio books that interest you. I find it really difficult to read, but when i listen to audio books while i ride my bike/walk, it makes comprehension and walking longer distances easier.

4. Find ways to be happy about yourself. You really need to learn to love yourself and accept yourself. This sounds silly, but trust me, i am studying psychology. In business psychology, you can skip out on paying people larger paychecks if they are happy with their life and their job.

I have noticed other common replies to stuff like this such as "Yes, disrespect is not gonna be tolerated, but you can't ban someone for saying "Dumbass" or "Loser" or "faggot" just in general. It's the internet."

Why is the internet some holy grail of bigotry; do people think it seriously can't be fixed? If we are expected to act a certain way at school, work, or generally in public, why can't we ask the same of people on Steam? The internet is becoming less and less anonymoys: steam is integrated with facebook, people play with real friends. Why can we not take a proactive step for some of these kids and tell them, "hey, these things are bad, and sometimes they can get you in trouble".

I personally don't want video games to be the medium of choice for people to exercise racist and sexist behavior that they otherwise couldn't. I want video games to be something that i can sit down with my significant other and have a good time. I want to be able to trust a kid to join a PG 13 community and be safe (with proper supervision from the parent).

I play on the Jail Break server. I would like to preface this by saying xG is a great server and probably the best Hail Break community. I appreciate the community rules like keeping language PG- 13 and not bringing up touchy subjects (6 and 7). It is nice to have a mature place to enjoy a good game of jail break.

However, i understand that a product of being one of the largest communities for Jail Break is that you get a lot of people who are not mature and like to joke around with "nerd culture". I suppose i can understand that. Many of us geeks have been picked on in real life for not being the most popular of people. The internet is a very accepting community, but only if you fit in to the popular internet group.

I have seen a lot of racism and ableism in the Jail Break server; sometimes from non xG members and sometimes from xG members. I have tried contacting the xG members personally just to let them know that i personally don't appreciate that type of language, but so far only xG TurdWig has been receptive (i mean really apologetic, he is really cool, great member too). I can accept the occasional burst of racism, but what disturbs me is that no one calls it out; no one says "Guys, please don't say X here". In my experience, X has been variations of the N word.

I know why people use the N word, because this is a jail break came and i suppose we are suppose to be African Americans or something like that. Still, while it might be funny to most of us white male gamers, it is offensive to people who have been put down by that word. Generally, we (typically white) gamers cannot understand the social and personal impact of a word like that. So i think we should perhaps and try to come to a consensus about limiting the usage of that work.

I also see a bit of sexism like "bitch" and "kitchen" jokes but that isn't as bad and not something i am going to complain about as much. I think it should be a goal to be welcoming of women, but given CSS demographics, i think you could skip out on this.

Personally, words like faggot hit a cord with me. The LGBT community has harassed much more than geek/gamer community and we as gamers typically use that as a put down on other gamers. It is a really ugly word that has been associated with murders of GLBT people. While the word isn't as historically powerful as the N word, it is a little more recent for the general gamer demographic.

One of the biggest changes i want to see is a large reduction of ableist language. Ableism is kind of like racism, but for disabled people of any flavor. I have noticed that many people on the server may have varying degrees of lighter mental disorders. While i do not want to get into specific psychological disorders or specific users, why would a community want to put down its own members? I know a lot of people who are on the upper spectrum of the autism scale who love video games because other people can't notice their disorder as easily. Calling people retarded would be the most obvious example, but even smaller things like calling people "dumb" or "stupid" can be hurtful.

I don't want anyone to get banned because i come off as a big politically correct outsider. I perhaps just want to see more of a vocal effort of xG members to say "hey, that isn't cool... you could be muted for that".

Again, for the most part, xG is a great community. Great moderation is hard because you often get a lot of people who think this is an appropriate medium to misbehave, and i understand that. I do think there can be better agreement among xG members about topics like these and i think regulars should become more vocal about this.

xG TurdWig is a cool guy, can't get that across enough