trifdign 0 Posted January 16, 2012 Before anybody replies with something along the lines of "Oh, the Terrorists are too overpowered, the CTs need some type of advantage!" No, they don't. This !class idea is completely unnecessary. The additional hp and body armor the CTs get is ungodly retarded. Seriously, it takes two to three shots with an awp to kill someone and the scout is useless now. I understand that the CTs need a way to control the Terrorists better but this is NOT one of them. Remove !class and replace it with something else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mayeski 0 Posted January 16, 2012 +1, I don't know whose idea this was in the first place, but it's bad. We weren't even told about this or had a vote for it to be added or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingJ 0 Posted January 16, 2012 +1 It unbalances the fight between T's and CT's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xepher 3 Posted January 16, 2012 From what I been told by Silence, it's still a work in progress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey 6 Posted January 16, 2012 I'll agree that a change has to come in some form, but not like this. Any balance issues come down to the map being played, NOTHING else. For example you could say on maps like station and redux T's need a buff, but yet on lego and razer the CT's require the buff instead. The !class addition is just screwing up the meta game right now (mainly 150hp CT's), the whole weapon damage in accordance with HP was set by Valve on a certain scale for a reason. To kill someone with 150hp: AWP - 3 shots to leg, 2 shots to body AK - Roughly 5 shots to body, 2 shots to head M4 - Roughly 7 shots to body, 2/3 shots to head Deagle - 5/6 shots to body, 2 shots to head Knife - 3 Right clicks to body, 2 right clicks to backstab If you would like a change, I recomend reducing the T's HP instead to 80hp as this would not effect weapons or any knife fight games such as pokemon or thunderdome. +1 to remove Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dino 0 Posted January 16, 2012 Ill agree that a change has to come in some form, but not like this. Any balance issues come down to the map being played, NOTHING else. For example you could say on maps like station and redux T's need a buff, but yet on lego and razer the CT's require the buff instead. The !class addition is just screwing up the meta game right now (mainly 150hp CT's), the whole weapon damage in accordance with HP was set by Valve on a certain scale for a reason. To kill someone with 150hp: AWP - 3 shots to leg, 2 shots to body or head AK - Roughly 5 shots to body, 2 shots to head M4 - Roughly 7 shots to body, 2/3 shots to head Deagle - 5/6 shots to body, 2 shots to head Knife - 3 Right clicks to body, 2 right clicks to backstab If you would like a change, I recomend reducing the T's HP instead to 80hp as this would not effect weapons or any knife fight games such as pokemon or thunderdome. +1 to remove ^^^^^^^ +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordAragon 0 Posted January 16, 2012 +1 i was getting angry earlier... and i went for a backstack got 1 hit but i didnt kill the guy turns on me and kills me so i fucking ragggee there are more ways to balance it silence... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mayeski 0 Posted January 16, 2012 I'll agree that a change has to come in some form, but not like this. Any balance issues come down to the map being played, NOTHING else. For example you could say on maps like station and redux T's need a buff, but yet on lego and razer the CT's require the buff instead. The !class addition is just screwing up the meta game right now (mainly 150hp CT's), the whole weapon damage in accordance with HP was set by Valve on a certain scale for a reason. To kill someone with 150hp: AWP - 3 shots to leg, 2 shots to body AK - Roughly 5 shots to body, 2 shots to head M4 - Roughly 7 shots to body, 2/3 shots to head Deagle - 5/6 shots to body, 2 shots to head Knife - 3 Right clicks to body, 2 right clicks to backstab If you would like a change, I recomend reducing the T's HP instead to 80hp as this would not effect weapons or any knife fight games such as pokemon or thunderdome. +1 to remove I agree on everything but reducing T HP, we get freeshot enough, the freeshots will turn into freekills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohammad 0 Posted January 16, 2012 +1, also i mean tbh most cts are retards which isnt Ts fault.... let me just point out a rule here : MOST RULES ARE DIRECTED TO CTS!!! meaning if u no u cant handle being able to be ct, simply dont be ct the only reason we are giving cts an advantage is cause they are mostly idiots.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordAragon 0 Posted January 16, 2012 +1, also i mean tbh most cts are retards which isnt Ts fault.... let me just point out a rule here : MOST RULES ARE DIRECTED TO CTS!!! meaning if u no u cant handle being able to be ct, simply dont be ct the only reason we are giving cts an advantage is cause they are mostly idiots.... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THHHHHHIIIIS the only reason cts fail is because half of them are derps who dont know what they are doing.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xepher 3 Posted January 16, 2012 I find this is a bit funny since most of the people who +1ing this are people who play as T most of the time lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey 6 Posted January 16, 2012 +1, also i mean tbh most cts are retards which isnt Ts fault.... let me just point out a rule here : MOST RULES ARE DIRECTED TO CTS!!! meaning if u no u cant handle being able to be ct, simply dont be ct the only reason we are giving cts an advantage is cause they are mostly idiots.... In theory yes, but in practice this wont happen which is why a change is necessary in some form. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DR.STRANGELUV 0 Posted January 16, 2012 totally agree with Trif. +1 for removal of this atrocity -1 on classes. This is the worst thing that could happen to my beloved JB To my enemies, you will love to hear that I will not be playing JB until this is COMPLETELY removed. There doesnt need to be ANY extra advantages given. Be good and grow skill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarin 0 Posted January 16, 2012 Yeah, !classes are a decent idea...but OMG no HP! maybe...MAYBE...start with 100 armour. but for the love of ALLAH take away the extra HP! PS, I usualy play as CT...so... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Wolf 0 Posted January 16, 2012 i fully agree with this. T's shouldn't have to suffer because CT's can't execute correctly. +1 for removing this bad plugin. i refuse to play with it on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites