Promotions And Demotions #168

Unfortunately even if you think that 9 or something hours is fine, it's not and that is proven by the previous demotions for inactivity and the other opinions from the higherups. Even if you disagree you need to follow the guideline of having more than 8 hours on the server like the rest of us

the guidelines of having 8 hours on the server? what? i am not aware of this

If a normal user can look at someones TF2 activity and they think, "wow this guy is really inactive", they have every right to complain. The eyes of the community can always be judgemental ones, and they can at any point have their say in the matter. Just because it's determined by higher ups, doesn't mean people cannot voice their complaints about the inactivity, opinions are about the only thing people can give in terms of that. No, there's no point in witch-hunting for demotions, but you shouldn't tell people that they can't voice their opinion on others activity, even if it's wrong sometimes.

im just saying its ridiculous how much some people care about other people's activity and how obvious it is that they just have their eyes on said person's position or is trying to make themselves look good in the higher ups' eyes

I have no problem in someone messaging me saying "hey this person has been a little inactive, could you talk to him about that"

but when someone goes "LOL THIS GUY HAS 7.98 HOURS WHY IS THIS GUY STILL NOT DEMOTED LOL" on a promo demo thread or on a private conversation, it pisses me the hell off

It is of my opinion that DM's and DL's should not be held to same standards of activity on the servers than M's and A's are. This is because it is the job of mods and admins to keep control of the people of the server and handle rule breakers. DM and up take on a bigger role of making sure the server is running smoothly and making sure the server isn't borked. Which means that they should not be expected to have the same server activity as a mod or admin. They should only be demoted if they fail to do their job or just disappear because of work and such as we saw with @Chrono (not throwing him under the bus, he just got a life outside xG. Crazy right?). Idk why everyone is getting all up in arms about the DM/DL activity on the servers when they have responsibilities for the division outside of playing on them. Lol I thought this was common sense, but I guess not.

my thoughts exactly

Why are people from the tf2 division always crying about inactivity? Unless you are in a position such as dm/dl where you have to actually maintain your division then low activity is not a big deal.

Anything below dm/dl is an expendable role that has one duty: punish rulebreakers on the servers. There is a big difference between low activity and no activity. If someone doesn't get on for over a month then yeah they should be contacted to find out what the deal is and demoted if they cannot improve their activity.

If you are only active for a few hours (8-10 hours every 1-2 weeks) its honestly not that big of a deal. Some people can only get on for 30 mins to an hour each day. During that time they can still moderate the servers. Maybe their activity will change maybe it won't, it is not that big of a deal.

Then it becomes tricky when you have an inactive dm/dl. The only issue with this is that only certain people can fill this role. Based off this thread and the previous promo thread the tf2 division does not have much to offer in terms of filling the role of dm/dl.

Edit the main thread, posted thread titled "Stepping Down To Pursue My Professional Smite Career"

Congrats to @Healix for getting promoted! pls come on pokemon, I'm being tortured by @bagel, @Parasect, and @Kypari

Edit: @Thunder too