JimenyCrickets

I Don't really believe adding that to the motd will change anything. Many of our mods/admins already know not to take action based on what people say or accused of doing.

Its more like I think it should be there for the players. I should definitely hope that most of our mods/admins know this rule, but it seems like 90% of the players are surprised that we cannot slay just because they tell us things.

You may be right that this won't change anything, but if it is in the MOTD atleast we can tell them to read the MOTD when they get upset at us instead of having to explain in chat over and over again.

if someone is getting accused of freekilling... investigate. Don't just slay, and don't just ignore. Ask both the accuser and accused their sides of the story, or else nothing will be accomplished. 9/10 the CT will explain the reason why he killed the T

Can I slay people who fuck up their explanations/reasons?

Also, a lot of CT's lie; if I can catch a CT lying, can I immediately team ban/switch them?

i agree with your general idea, but you should know that you should be in spectate when server is full.

I'm sorry, I never see you in our servers when I play, what is your In-Game Name?

I spec when I am in the server about 33% of the time. I find that my method is far more effective then sitting in spectate all round long.

My method of moderation is as follows;

1) I warden when Server is full and I eliminate incompetent CTs by baiting them with my rules to see who is listening and who isn't. I can, on average, identify 4-5 CTs who don't know the rules by this method, EVERY round.

It makes it easier to eliminate baiters and gunplanters when I have full vision of the Terrorists, and I can control them better which allows for a better view of who is contributing to the mayhem.

When other CTs are warden and the round devolves into freedays/wardays/etc, it is significantly harder to determine when someone gets freekilled or not. Additionally, incompetant wardens will often lose control of the terrorists and the ensuing mayhem makes it impossible to determine when wrong doing is going on.

2) After I have eliminated the first round of incompetant CT's, I switch over to the Terrorist team to see who really knows the rules. When a warden says "Freeze", I jump and crouch and knife to see who knows what a "Freeze" actually is. As soon as I die (almost immediately), I start spectating the round and looking for people who are breaking the rules. I will spend a few rounds here, eliminating the CT who freekilled me along with anyone I catch in spectate.

3) When I get enough complaints about a particular CT and not just isolated accounts from people who don't know the rules, I stay in spec and watch the offenders; slay/ban accordingly. By this time, I start the whole process over again from 1 to refine the CT team.

Can we please put in writing that

1) Admins/Mods cannot slay people based on mere accusations

2) People who constantly spam admin chat with accusations will be Kicked/Banned

I'm not saying that people shouldn't let us know who to watch; otherwise we wouldn't know to go into spec/to watch the players. But some people will not stop messaging us until we do something about it; and when things don't go their way they make admin abuse threads and complain on the forums.

I feel like nobody knows this fact, or how the administration actually works, and that I have to explain it and repeat it numerous times whenever I play.

I moderate during the peak of the server (Full 55/55) and I think it would save me and the other moderators who play during this time (Trif/Ben Dover/Mohammad) a lot of headache if this were the case. Unfortunately, when you have such a small pool of moderators at this time, as opposed to when the server is at half capacity, there are a lot of things we cannot watch, and we definitely need to come to a greater understanding with the populace.

I would have to say that the main problem with the way things are is that people do not understand the concept of judiciary fairness; a lot of the time people think we are friends on the internet, and so they will message me in admin chat specifically saying "Smoker someone just free killed me, slay them!" and expect me to do certain things because we are "friends". Even though I have explained the rules to the innumerable times, they take it personally as if we aren't cool with each other, and they get angry and then keep spamming me until I have to explain to them exactly why I cannot slay a CT just because someone complains to me. When I finally gag them, they start spamming me through steam chat.

Moderators cannot simply slay people due to accusations; the very best we can do is watch over the perpatrator next round to check for freekilling/rule breaking.

When people don't get things their way, they take it personally; as if I think their opinion doesn't matter, or that I like the CT more than I like the person who got freekilled.

I want people to stop taking things so personally, and that's why I have removed most people from my friends list so that they do not try and leverage our "friendship" to get things the way they want.

That's exactly what happened with SonicBlitz; he thought we were friends enough from months of playing together that if he told me to do something, that I would do it.

This is not how things work; favoritism works both ways, and the moderators cannot, and will not, cater towards their friends in this manner unless we want the server to die.

So Please, this is as much an appeal to the Head Administration as it is to the Player Base;

1. Fix the MotD to expressly state that Moderators/Admins cannot rely on accusations to moderate

2. Please be more considerate and relaxed? The fact that I now need to worry about admin abuse threads because I cannot moderate 50+ people at the same time is very disconcerting. We moderators do our best to make this server fun and enjoyable; the only thanks we get is complaints that we aren't doing our job.

Oh look its Mathieu0328!

The guy who always comes into the server with the [xG:L] tag on!

I hope you get unbanned!

EDIT: Oh yeah I think its really funny when we ask you to change it and you make it say [G:L] instead!

EDIT2: We've collectively warned him about this ~20 times, He just never learns LOL!

Zapper explained in his post that you saw him get freekilled..

Its a good thing that hes standing right behind me, looking over my shoulder, looking at everything I see on my monitor so that he KNOWS that I saw him getting freekilled right?

I always get complaints from people for me to join in jb because "mods/admins wont ever do shit/do not do their jobs" and I will see how many are on and there will be like 5 fucking mods and apparently none are doing SHIT and just sitting there ignoring and stuff....or complaints that there is nobody on jb to mod...then I check and there is several in the server which means they must not be doing there jobs. Cmon peoples!

Tell you what, as soon as I can start slaying people for things I didn't see, I'll start "doing my job".

Unfortunately, I only slay people when I actually see them freekill.

My orders were to stack on the Blue Block.

I repeat them 2 times for the Terrorists.

You were standing on the Blue Block and waited until one of them knifed you to run away.

That's called baiting, and you continually baited, trolled, and overall broke the rules.

Even after I explained why you were CT banned, you kept on spamming admin chat and making a big deal.

Deal with it, boy. And stop fucking crying.

EDIT: Don't put words in my mouth either.

[encyclopediadramatica.ch/Moderator]

EXCERPT:

"In the world of Internet forums and messageboards, "moderators" (often abbreviated to "mods") are the equivalent of policemen.

In fact, the only difference is that they have no real authority except over their gay ass web sites. Ranking somewhere below administrators, they are assigned the task of ensuring the rules of the forum that they "moderate" are rigidly adhered to by the rank-and-file board membership while at the same time willfully ignoring these rules themselves.

Given special powers by the board's administrators to assist them in this endeavor, it is common for these powers to be abused at a whim, and when the inevitable howls of protest follow, to use these same powers to silence dissent.

In a nutshell, moderators partake in intense faggotry."

feels good right? :3

 

Also smoker i benched 315 when i was 17 last time i worked out i benched 430 and squated 750 for my reps. =/ weight lifting means nothing dude.

Not hating. I know those numbers are prettyf ucking decent but aren't you alot heavier than I am?

As much as I love getting stronger, I do realize that the majority of the reason why I lift is to look good for girsl so I keep it lean. I'm pretty confident that if i gained another 20-30 lbs I could probably bench asmuch as you , if not more.

Inb4 Smoker dies of a heart attack from years of smoking + an overworked heart

 

Hey man, you want some Peanut Butter with that jelly?

its not a brag thread o.o if ure talking about me sayinga bout soccer, i wasnt bragging, i was just stating that i was athetlic but now i lost it and am not so much lol.

For the record, I wasn't talking about you specifically.

Don't be self-conscious and insecure; its not a good look.

Since this thread has pretty much become a "I'm gonna brag thread" by now, I figured it's time to put you all to shame.

1. I am 6'2, 200 lbs (God Tier Height, anything > 6'3 is too tall and awkward)

2. 46 Inch Chest, 32 inch waist (Broad Shoulders and Narrow Hips; Genetically, this will be unattainable for 90% of you)

3. I started smoking at age 13, when it was cool. Now that I'm in college and everyone who wants to fit in smokes (I'm talking about pimple faced nerds, wannabe alphas, and fat bitches) I quit cold turkey. Easiest thing in my life; people who cannot quit cigarettes are weak as shit.

4. I can bench 225 lbs ~23-25 times in a row, no breaks. But usually I do low reps (1-3) and am now up to 315 (3 plates). Strength > Endurance IMO.

5. The voice I use when I warden is not the voice I use in real life.

Can you elaborate on rule #2?

i havent heard this long and curious of a conversation about smoking since I was in 7th grade.

 

Some of your judements are quite rude,

 

I smoke a pack a day and roughly 2 grams of (very very high grade) weed.

 

Get on my level.

 

Dont like my smoke, dont breathe my air.

 

I also dont think its "cool" and no one else over the age of 18 sits around and discusses cigarettes.

 

Those who say it makes you look disgusting, who the fuck are you to judge whatever I do with my body? I have my own damn reasons. It doesnt make me any more/ less of a person than someone who habitually drinks energy drinks or alcohol lol

 

Grow up, talk about bigger things than cigarettes, its not hip anymore.

Its people like Snackbar which is why I quit smoking. Him and all the fat girls at my college who try to smoke now that its the "hip" thing to do.

When a bunch of nerds start enjoying things that the cool kids do, it stops being cool and becomes more lame.

That being said, I encourage all of you to start smoking now.

-1 to this.

I honestly think that Cherrys is just buttmad that someone is more e-cool than he is and hes mad jelly of how e-popular doug is.

My advice? Harden the fuck up and stop QQ'ing just because you wish you were one of the popular kids.

-1. Annoying kid who pretty much trolls the entire time hes on CT. Give him some more time to stop being a nuisance and I will reconsider.

-1. What if someone really wants warden but has a slow connection; we aren't allowed to call it for them?

+1. He is the next Best warden of xG.

I am a relic of days long past; it is finally time to usher in a new era of Elite Wardens, starting with Doug.

All of you guys need to stop smoking/never start it.

Only the cool kids are allowed to smoke; anyone else who does it is just a poser.

I find this is a bit funny since most of the people who +1ing this are people who play as T most of the time lol

Naturally; I couldn't see any reason why a CT would be opposed to what amounts to balance fixes. It's almost as if people want it to be unfair for CT's!

Don't change it to require more than 5 seconds; I always give 5 seconds after orders and I have never received complaints.

If his orders were unclear, then fine; slay him. But don't change the rules of a system that has worked great for everyone else just because 1 person gave you a hard time.

+1 this idea. We will be able to attract a larger number of people with this, which will lead to greater clan enlistment and thus greater outreach.

Change your name please.

I love it the most when the server is filled to capacity.

I wouldn't play in a 30 man server; it would be too boring.

Even when it is a 55 person server, hardly anyone talks and I never get to have friendly banter while I'm shooting ♥♥♥♥♥es in the face.

[[ Don't know if this is the right place to post this, expect it will probably be moved. ]]

 

I've been playing on the xG servers for almost a year now, and it's been a nice ride, except in the last few months when things have seemed to go seriously downhill. I experienced a small case of abuse today which was the straw that broke the camel's back, as I've seen a lot of mod abuse in the CSS Jailbreak server lately. I don't know if it's the people being selected to be mods, or the fact that there's just so many (as there are plenty of great mods and you probably know who you are).

 

The problem isn't that these things are happening, it's that there is simply no way to fight against it. I've been the victim of mod abuse a number of times - don't get me wrong, there are times when I've disobeyed rules, and deserved the punishment, and I take it when I do. But there are times when the mods get it wrong, and a GOOD mod realizes this when it happens. A bad one doesn't care and tells you to suck it up, no matter what your punishment was. And if you argue? Well, you're disrespecting a mod by challenging their decision, asking for an explanation, wanting to know -why- you're being punished for something you didn't do, either because they genuinely believe that you've done it without proof, or they're simply full of it and don't care.

 

Well, I've sucked it up as much as I can. I still have a desire to play on the servers and will probably continue to do so, but as a result of these experiences I no longer have any desire to be in xG. I'd say that down the line I'd be interested in coming back if these issues were resolved, but frankly I don't think they ever will be.

 

I've seen the mods get more and more strict with people for breaking rules as time goes on, which is a good thing. But mods are wrong, too, and when they are wrong they need to be punished just like anybody else - and because they've become more strict, they make more mistakes, and the need for that punishment increases because they're handing out more slays, teambans, bans, what have you. Unfortunately, that pretty much never happens here.

 

Sorry to the -good- mods of xG and the great people who play on the servers (especially those who I've played with for almost a year). There was a time when I enjoyed being a member of the xG community because I thought it was a community where everybody was treated equally and responsibly, but sadly that time has clearly ended.

 

-your friendly neighborhood sexypedocone*

 

 

 

 

 

*registered SO

 

 

 

p.s. I'm not stupid, I don't actually expect anything to change because of any of this. People will still abuse and never be punished for it and micspam will surely still run rampant throughout the lands like the mighty buffalo of yesteryear.

 

 

 

 

 

 

tl;dr: ♥♥♥♥ some of you, love some of you, fixyourclankthxbai

I know we both said some things we didn't mean; but I don't want you to leave.