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Warrior what you are arguing is a mute point. It's already been decided that it is allowed until someone says to stop as a warning. Lets get back to reality, 95% of the staff and members use it consistently. I have seen it spammed in admin chat more times than I can remember and its never an issue. Why is it suddenly the forbidden word when it never was before... all of you are bringing in the most trivial things to try and attack each other.

>Can be disrespectful, already determined it wasnt deemed as such.
>Point wasnt to show biased, but rather lack of acknowledgment
>Point of position is to control server and deal with rule breakers
>Fear of demotion if calling anyone out, or at least being ridiculed
>Threatening a demo is not a big threat, but something that should not be done because it creates a rift between everyone

Point 2: "Mic Spammers
If a mic spammer joins the server and will not stop after a warning, you must mute and then kick him if he does it again. If he rejoins and continues to do this, that is a bannable offence. An admin must ban him for 240 minutes exactly. Anything above or below is breaking the rules."
 
This didnt happen, he needed a warning first.

Point 3:
To deal with a disrespecting player you still must do the following:
 

Warn the player about the disrespect with a gag or mute. AND tell the player why he/she was gagged/muted.
Kick the player if disrespecting continues with an explanation of why they were kicked.
If the player comes back and continues then it is a 6 hour ban. Do not skip these steps.

Guess what? He didnt fully do the first step.
 
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So there issue here is hypocrisy, again. I was literally told very firmly by forest that we are to follow all steps as they are written, AND NEVER SKIP A STEP. Darkwolf did this twice, in the same night. Forest very well knows that a demotion is a very possible punishment for a staff member who does not follow the steps accordingly, and as we see here Darkwolf failed to do so.
 
 
And where is the flame war? Am I in the wrong thread? All I see is constructive debate. Stop trying to get these ban protests closed for no reason at all, this is one of the most mild ones ive seen in quite a while. If this gets closed then I expect every other one that has debate in it to follow suit.

>Can be disrespectful, already determined it wasnt deemed as such.
>Point wasnt to show biased, but rather lack of acknowledgment
>Point of position is to control server and deal with rule breakers
>Fear of demotion if calling anyone out, or at least being ridiculed
>Threatening a demo is not a big threat, but something that should not be done because it creates a rift between everyone

Alright, from this point on, no more bickering at each other guys. Try your best to keep this thread on topic (meaning toward the Report Abuse OP and Darkwolf). Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and as such, should not be shot down for stating their end of the story.
 
Any further posts from this point on that are specifically targeted at "Group A" or "Group B" will be removed. I'm not intentionally trying to threaten anyone, but if anyone has a discrepancy with someone else who isn't Darkwolf, either keep it to yourself or talk it out elsewhere. This is a Report Abuse thread for Darkwolf, not for his pals or buds.

I realize this, which is what I stated in my first post. It was a perfectly fine abuse report, but once threats started to happen people became defensive. There was no reason for darkwolf to comment like that behind our back, thats not something that should have been done.
 
And if this was an abuse thread for me, shadow, or really anybody not a DM then it wouldnt be an issue of growing up. I came in here to state a legitimate opinion, and get shot down for trying to say it.

I realize this, which is what I stated in my first post. It was a perfectly fine abuse report, but once threats started to happen people became defensive. There was no reason for darkwolf to comment like that behind our back, thats not something that should have been done.
 
And if this was an abuse thread for me, shadow, or really anybody not a DM then it wouldnt be an issue of growing up. I came in here to state a legitimate opinion, and get shot down for trying to say it.

Bringing in who voted what is irrelevant, completely off topic, and is only an argument that doesnt need to be started.

"The Warden must first state that they will be playing first/last reaction. If the Warden calls out 'First Reaction', the first T to react to his order will be shot. Any Ts after that cannot be shot. An example of this would be the Warden calling out, "First Reaction jump" The first T to jump will be killed, but any Ts that jumped after that will not be killed. Another example of this would be the Warden calling out, "Last Reaction crouch!" The last T to crouch will be killed. If two Ts jumped at the same time, they both live. Valid first/last reaction commands: crouch, jump, type, spray, one step in a direction. First/last reaction cannot be played to determine LR. You are not allowed to tarp with crouching or jumping rules during first reaction last reaction even if it`s past 5:00."
 
 
Since you brought it up dark, lets get this straight. Did he or did he not play it for LR? No. He didn't break anything in the motd. This is the same thing that happened last night, there was no rule about it and asked why it wasn't allowed. Same response from you "you're wrong I'm right, get it together stupid admins". Luckily forest was there and we discussed it, decided that its best not to allowed wardays after cells open, and went on with life. Forest was mature and took my perspective into view, as did I take his. I would assume some of his courtesy came because of my comments in other threads, and I appreciate that he listened.
 
 
Personal issues? Seriously, TAKE A BREAK. You all do a ton of work, you need to take breaks. I wouldn't, nor anyone would care if you did respond. We understand the need to step away for a while. Your life is more important than this damn game.

Point 2: "Mic Spammers
If a mic spammer joins the server and will not stop after a warning, you must mute and then kick him if he does it again. If he rejoins and continues to do this, that is a bannable offence. An admin must ban him for 240 minutes exactly. Anything above or below is breaking the rules."
 
This didnt happen, he needed a warning first.

Point 3:
To deal with a disrespecting player you still must do the following:
 

Warn the player about the disrespect with a gag or mute. AND tell the player why he/she was gagged/muted.
Kick the player if disrespecting continues with an explanation of why they were kicked.
If the player comes back and continues then it is a 6 hour ban. Do not skip these steps.

Guess what? He didnt fully do the first step.
 
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So there issue here is hypocrisy, again. I was literally told very firmly by forest that we are to follow all steps as they are written, AND NEVER SKIP A STEP. Darkwolf did this twice, in the same night. Forest very well knows that a demotion is a very possible punishment for a staff member who does not follow the steps accordingly, and as we see here Darkwolf failed to do so.
 
 
And where is the flame war? Am I in the wrong thread? All I see is constructive debate. Stop trying to get these ban protests closed for no reason at all, this is one of the most mild ones ive seen in quite a while. If this gets closed then I expect every other one that has debate in it to follow suit.

he was talking about what you say darkwolf said.

Alright, instead of immediately requesting a close to protect your friend from facing any type of ridicule, let people say what they feel is necessary. Closing everything under the reason of "flame war" prevents anybody from ever speaking up and to be frank, the people that are saying it are only saying it because Darkwolf is the one under scrutiny.
 
Moving on, @@Chrono saying "Nigger", regardless of how you meant it can be considered racist. It is a derogatory term and while it may not offend some, there are people that most certainly can be offended and you should be considerate of them.
 
However, @@DarkWolf6052 , I don't normally do this kind of thing but in this case I have to call you out. Hope you realize it's nothing too personal. Upon viewing all the decisions you have made, I have found that you can really be incredibly biased towards your friends, especially on important topics on the forums. Often completely ignoring any other point of view besides yours and your friends.
 
I have also noticed that sometimes you have went straight to teambans for a day without any prior slay, and often times without much proper justification.
 
So, overall I am going to have to +1 to some form of repercussion.

Its more than that matsi, its a continuation of the last protest, him gagging and ignoring chrono, and being rude to me in a steam chat asking a simple question. You should be warned before, most of the time I will say it in chat or all chat, but what other people do is out of my control. Sorry they don't follow the rules on you, but a DM should be.

Point 2: "Mic Spammers
If a mic spammer joins the server and will not stop after a warning, you must mute and then kick him if he does it again. If he rejoins and continues to do this, that is a bannable offence. An admin must ban him for 240 minutes exactly. Anything above or below is breaking the rules."
 
This didnt happen, he needed a warning first.

Point 3:
To deal with a disrespecting player you still must do the following:
 

Warn the player about the disrespect with a gag or mute. AND tell the player why he/she was gagged/muted.
Kick the player if disrespecting continues with an explanation of why they were kicked.
If the player comes back and continues then it is a 6 hour ban. Do not skip these steps.

Guess what? He didnt fully do the first step.
 
_____________________________________________________

So there issue here is hypocrisy, again. I was literally told very firmly by forest that we are to follow all steps as they are written, AND NEVER SKIP A STEP. Darkwolf did this twice, in the same night. Forest very well knows that a demotion is a very possible punishment for a staff member who does not follow the steps accordingly, and as we see here Darkwolf failed to do so.
 
 
And where is the flame war? Am I in the wrong thread? All I see is constructive debate. Stop trying to get these ban protests closed for no reason at all, this is one of the most mild ones ive seen in quite a while. If this gets closed then I expect every other one that has debate in it to follow suit.

Point 2: "Mic Spammers
If a mic spammer joins the server and will not stop after a warning, you must mute and then kick him if he does it again. If he rejoins and continues to do this, that is a bannable offence. An admin must ban him for 240 minutes exactly. Anything above or below is breaking the rules."
 
This didnt happen, he needed a warning first.

Point 3:
To deal with a disrespecting player you still must do the following:
 

Warn the player about the disrespect with a gag or mute. AND tell the player why he/she was gagged/muted.
Kick the player if disrespecting continues with an explanation of why they were kicked.
If the player comes back and continues then it is a 6 hour ban. Do not skip these steps.

Guess what? He didnt fully do the first step.
 
_____________________________________________________

So there issue here is hypocrisy, again. I was literally told very firmly by forest that we are to follow all steps as they are written, AND NEVER SKIP A STEP. Darkwolf did this twice, in the same night. Forest very well knows that a demotion is a very possible punishment for a staff member who does not follow the steps accordingly, and as we see here Darkwolf failed to do so.
 
 
And where is the flame war? Am I in the wrong thread? All I see is constructive debate. Stop trying to get these ban protests closed for no reason at all, this is one of the most mild ones ive seen in quite a while. If this gets closed then I expect every other one that has debate in it to follow suit.

This is just causing a flame war, just close it.

And I understand that, but rather than forest apologizing for it, shouldn't you have?
 
From general server rules: 11. Racism and sexism is frowned upon in our servers, using it excessively or in an insulting manner is not allowed at all. IF a mod or higher warn you to stop (by gagging, muting or simply messaging you) , you must stop. This is the first and only warning you get and it must be in this manner. If you do say something racist or sexist, it must be very minimal and not in an offensive way and if not stopped after a warning, you will be punished severely. The person these comments are directed too and any staff member can at any time state that these are offensive and you must stop immediately.
 
 
If you gagged Chrono for racism, that's considered a warning and you must give him a reason. It doesn't matter if its racism, it's allowed if it doesn't offend and I'm sure you didn't really care. He used it to get your attention after telling you already to stop camping. As DM you should know not to camp, and if called out should know to slay yourself. I've seen you use that word plenty of times, yet all of a sudden he can't use it? Hypocrisy.

Its okay guys, just let the poor kid talk to himself, he gets lonely sometimes.. its okay Gkoo we all do.

literally the gayest thread to date

P.S. attitude should have already been changing, after the wake up call you should have got from shadowspy's thread.

I was debating doing anything about this, mostly for reasons that I know people can get pissed sometimes and shouldn't be put under fire for letting it slip a little... but I've talked to people about it and feel like its just something that should be added to this thread; and it just kinda rubbed me the wrong way too much.
 
Long story short, I asked for clarification on why we could declare a warday later on in the day. I never said I was right and he was wrong, but I was looking for an explanation about it. I felt that it was not handled appropriately and the language used was not required at all.

...the end...

...the end...

It really does come down to staff getting on. CSS hasn't had hub either, yet there are still times we get 35-40 people and the game is ancient. All it takes is 1 staff member to get on, then it just slowly picks up. I've seen it go from 1 (after midnight, 3am est) to 20 in a matter of minutes because a staff member showed up.

It really does come down to staff getting on. CSS hasn't had hub either, yet there are still times we get 35-40 people and the game is ancient. All it takes is 1 staff member to get on, then it just slowly picks up. I've seen it go from 1 (after midnight, 3am est) to 20 in a matter of minutes because a staff member showed up.