SyrJirk

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It's stupid. There's no reason to have the recoil on top of the freekill counter on top of the votemenu system. That's three different things based around the same issue, it all becomes redundant. Especially when there's staff on hand. If someone freekills they can be handled a variety of ways, this does not really do anything about it, it just kind of delays and makes normal CT'ing harder for no good reason.

I don't think supporting a level up server is good because one: There's no guarantee people will go on it anyways. And Two: There's no reason to have it. We have three servers that are effectively DM servers more or less. The trading servers are basically fuck around and kill each other while trying to trade, if you wanna level up just go there.

What made CS:S really truly fun in it's prime-time wasn't the plug-ins. Wasn't the hats, hub, or anything like that. It had been going strong for two years without hub. What made CS:S the great experience it was, was the community. The chemistry the xG community had and the characters we had like Mohammad, Pyro, MsCookie, Trees, Forest, Chuck Norris, Doug, even puppyluv *insert lenny face here* and Cristo was (And is) a big part of the fun. The people that frequented the game and MADE it fun. Jailbreak in itself really isn't fun anyways and no hats, hub, plug-in, would change that. The reason JB is fun is because it promotes community and when there's a community there's a huge chance for awesome fun moments you don't get in any other kind of situation or game. Now there's basically no community, no people left, and no chance for these situations to happen and draw even more people in. Every time I get on CS:S (And I get on once a day to see how many people are on.) There's almost never anyone on. I checked minigames once and there like five people and one was a member but I didn't feel like staying because no one was on. No one was getting on. I can't get hyped about a division when I can't play with anyone and I know a lot of you feel the same otherwise this thread wouldn't be here. The solution for CS:S is simple put time (and possibly) money into it. Build the community back up and the rest will follow but until there's an actual population it will never be anything besides an empty server.

I made this same exact post when I started playing on the TF2 servers. Minus the furfag

All I see is some damn fine rebelling as the same class. Which could pretty easily be stopped by a decent soldier considering how grouped they all are.

What division are you planning on playing in?

OR And this is a very, very crazy OR. Perhaps, just maybe. The REDs could pay attention to who the warden is and wait for HIM/HER to ask the question like smart people!

When you say "Beetlejuice" three times I am immediately summoned onto your server and trickstab the nearest enemy before dissipating in a collage of hitmarkers, 420, and dubstep swag. Then I get all your refined so I can craft hats for you.

Yeah it's the way you're acting. I'm trying to have a legit discussion which is more than I can say for you guys. You're basically the internet equivalent of plugging your ears and screaming "Lalalalalalala." I care because I like the community and want to improve it. The rest of the game is a test of skill. That's how the game works, yet I want to remove the one thing that is a draw back from that and you guys act like it's the biggest deal in the world despite repeatedly saying people don't care about random crits. If you don't care than WHY ARE THEY HERE. Just get rid of them if no one cares. And if people absolutely one hundred percent want or need crits. Use a kritzkreig. I don't mind enjoying a good death and a laugh on JB. I do it a lot but I'm tired of bullshit ones especially when people are trying to get stuff done and play games on JB and they get fucked over. It's not fair for anyone. It's not fun. You repeatedly say it is 100% of the time but it isn't and they don't need to be there so get rid of them or change it at the very least.

I'm sorry that first sentence threw you for a loop but it's not that hard to figure out. I'll go add a comma or two later. Ha ha really no. xD Except you clearly don't know what TF2 is if crits are the only thing that makes it different to you, from CoD or BF or Counter-Strike. Seriously. So it's pretty dead-on. I'm not picking on them. I'm saying you act like someone with the maturity, attitude, and overall voice of a 12 year old who contributes very little to this argument. You don't understand the game because you compared TF2 without crits to CS:GO and CoD even though that's how you play the game 95% of the time xD that 95% of the game is just as different from those games as the 5% with crits is. Bullshit is a very appropriate word. Because people don't find crits fun they only find it fun when they get random bullshit kills with crits. xD And no it doesn't. You may be up arguing late but your arguments are hardly arguments, and you're wrong on just about every assertion. So the amount of time you dedicate is null and void when I'm also dedicating a lot of time to the very subject. The difference is I know what I'm talking about, why I don't like crits, and want to change the servers for the better where-as at this point I'm fairly certain you're just disagreeing because you don't like me. Which is fine, don't like me. I don't care xD

1. Don't call me kid. If we can't all act and treat each other with respect like adults than we should not be in this clan. 2. I'm not trying to combine comp with jailbreak. I just want the crits gone because they aren't fun to me and add nothing. If you claim it is inferior that there are no random crits than you're really amazingly picky that those rare random moments in actual pubs that happen to be crits are inferior. Look at a killfeed in any normal pub, the vast majority of them are regular kills. Only one out of about fifty are actual crit kills? Unless that one kill out of fifty really makes you feel alive or something you may just be exaggerating or lying. Otherwise they add nothing besides a red glow to a killfeed marker and a possibly bullshit death.

I clearly said "Not just here on all servers I play." I go on the trade servers to trade and literally not care about anything in the game itself. I wouldn't call my time on the trade server "playing" and I certainly don't care about crits on a trade server. I used to frequent an all crits trade server. Which hey it least it was fair in the fact that everyone had crits all the time. It wasn't a random bullshit sprung on you like opening a gift at Christmas that your mom has lovingly wrapped and placed only to find that it was in-fact a jack-in-the-box with a boxing glove that comes out and punches you in the face saying, "Ha ha you're a fucking dumbass for expecting something suitable from this."

Alright let's see here. Reasons to keep random crits: We like it (We being very arbitrary so far.) It makes the game interesting. (Completely subjective and flat out untrue in a lot of ways.) My personal favorite, it makes TF2 what it is. (Ha, no.) Reasons to remove/change them: We don't like it. (We still arbitrary.) They are unfair. (Depends on the engagement but generally true.) They do nothing to add to the game. (Also true as someone who actually knows what a no random crit server is) Wow besides the fact that you like them those reasons are absolute shite. People like smoking too doesn't mean they can/should do it whenever they want in random situations. People don't like smoking that doesn't generally mean they get to boss smokers around but that doesn't mean they don't deserve to be heard when they say they don't want someone smoking in their face. Ahh it's the time of the debate where the person who is realizing their argument is shite so they focus on spelling and grammar. Even though I go through my shit and any grammatical errors are there on purpose xD. Also I already explained that if you would care to read the post. Umm no. Are you stupid? Probably. Let me explain to you the fine differences between those games and TF2. PERSONALITY: TF2 has a completely different feel and play style than all of those games. The random crits have nothing to do with the fact that TF2. The differences are the writing, the weapons, maps, graphics, style and overall characterization. Speaking of which... CHARACTERS: TF2 has a variety of characters in case you didn't notice. Nine in total, all of which are completely unique and fun to play in their own way. Which is a vast difference in itself than the majority of triple A copy and paste shooters. Another big difference. GAMEPLAY: I really hope I don't have to explain this to you but I've said it a few times already TF2 plays completely different thanks to the class system and weapons. Not to mention the item-drop system, trading, and TF2 economy which adds a completely new area of depth and community among the players of the game something no other game really has besides DOTA 2 and MMO's which is actually a huge accomplishment on TF2's part to break another mold of what FPS game are generally considered to be. CRITS: ARE FUCKING STUPID. They do not do anything to benefit TF2 and if you think so YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TF2 IS. This is really a digression but my definition of squeaker is generally someone with the attitude, maturity, and overall voice of a 12 year old who has yet to understand the fact that they are stupid when compared with the majority of the world. This is a broad generalization of course but whatever. I guess you just had to know that because you have nothing else to pick at. Not only do I doubt that I flat out think you are either lying or completely stupid. I already told you why it's wrong. People who think it would ruin the game DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THE GAME. Play on a no crit server and there is literally no difference besides the random bullshit kills guys. Same thing on JB.

The thing is you're completely wrong about me and why I want them gone or at least changed. I don't mind playing Jailbreak and dying. That's why I play it, it's fun. But crits make it not fun very quickly. A rebellion not being held back shouldn't rely on crits, and I'm not even mad about rebellions I start plenty of them, I die from plenty of them that's the point of the game. The point isn't being killed by random crits where you otherwise would have had a chance to win and otherwise could have stopped a rebellion/kept one going. It happens way too often for my liking and in a game where people are so concerned about fun they quickly shun away anyone's definition that doesn't match their own. I will continue to play jail break with or without the crits, I like it. I like this clan, I like the community, which is why I say something because I want to make a change that I feel like would be a good thing. You guys act like they're funny (They're not.) You act like dying repeatedly is funny (Which it can be) but sitting in the spec screen for minutes at a time isn't. When I get into an encounter I want to be rewarded or punished in a way that makes sense. The way TF2 works the vast majority of the time and when I try and remove the tiny percentile that is extremely annoying and pointless and all I get are people saying no and hardly explaining why. I've stated many, many reasons why crits don't need to be here and people keep saying the same stuff.

That isn't bias or douche or disrespectful to me and yet you tell me not to disrespect staff or be a docuhe. You are a masterpiece of hypocrisy. Also it doesn't make it interesting it turns an encounter into a gamble of "Will I be robbed of a possible victory?" You know I probably feel the shittiness of random crits because I main spy and therefor the only way I can do any effective work is by using skill and trying to trick my opponents during battle but it's impossible for a spy to do so when the first hit he takes can very well be his last and it often is. If you play spy on JB you'll probably hate the crits as much as I do too. But guess what it doesn't just affect spy. I've played every class and none of them NEED random crits. It doesn't make the game more interesting it makes it redundant because it completely demolishes the point of becoming good at the game. It's nothing but a free win which shouldn't be the case. I could just as easily call all of you selfish. The game without crits is the way you play the game 95% of the time. Why are you so fixated on them? It's unfair any way you look at it. Just because anyone can get a crit just as randomly as someone else doesn't mean it is fair or that is isn't stupid or that it is interesting. It just makes it stupid all-around. It doesn't negatively impact anyone. Anyone who is good will still be good anyone who is bad will still be bad there's just no get out of jail freecard (No pun intended) anymore. Like there shouldn't be. Half the fun in JB in CSS was planning with your fellow T's a rebellion, who to attack first and when you were going to attack and the guards had to rely on skill and not sucking if they wanted to stop rebellions. It's not taking away anything and it's not turning TF2 into C:SS if that's what you're thinking. It's making it fair and it's making it better. It is removing the 5% of the time where the game just shites on you. Douche: Check. Disrespect: Check. The IRONY. Yet you all act like the squeakers you complain about. That is such a broadly wrong statement it literally made me laugh out loud. How would you know? Clearly you've never played without the crits and yeah I dislike them and yeah emphasis on the I because I'm not the only one. Kitty and Kendrick both have openly stated they don't like crits either. It wouldn't kill us to try to take off crits for like a week maybe two and look at the difference.

The thing is, random crits are neither funny, nor important. Any good rebeller can get inside armory. I've seen small swarms take down the entirety of the blue team with or without random crits. You know vents that go to armory are there for a reason. Tricks and stuff on the map are there for a reason. Any rebellion can potentially be out of control with or without random crits. And a good team of blues or even a good warden can shut down any rebellion if they're smart enough, and when that happens crits don't even come into play. So let's see, half the time crits are pointless, and the other half they're still pointless. 1. Yes because this thread is already filled with 12 year olds defending the random crits with their -1. Which is also stupid because it adds nothing to the discussion. You know, I really like Kendrick's idea because he's inputting an idea with sentences and complete thoughts that are thought out and mean something. I'm pissed off because I'm trying to make a change which could be positive for everyone. People like me who prefer competitive, skill based play and results, and for the casual players as well, but so far I've got a bunch of stupid -1's and some shitposts that are bad attempts at witty, snarky comments because they're just stupid. At least Kendrick disagrees with a goddamn thoughtful post, it is not just a -1 from random assholes, most of which I literally don't know because I have seen none of them on JB before if at all. 2. The staff is fucking retarded sometimes. The only ones I really like are Kbrazz and Sparkedeel. A lot of the people here are so threatened by goddamn words on the INTERWEBZ that they can't use their brains for a few moments and think about what I'm saying and say something meaningful. I'd be more than happy to talk to you guys about it if you have dissenting opinions but no one is talking except for the shitposts which do nothing except basically say "Nuh uh SyrJirk. RANDOM CRITS ARE IN THE GAME THEREFOR THEY ARE GOOD." That says nothing except that you play TF2 sometimes and know what a random crit is. If you don't like my idea, fine, explain why. Defend crits in a good way. Because right now these stupid posts are more than enough reason in my mind to remove them when mentioning them causes the xG community to react in such an immature way. I don't get it, I've been playing on TF2 JB for a good long while now and I legitimately like the community, I want to make it better. I want to help but I make a single post about something I really dislike, and why it's shitty and yeah I call out some of the areas where I got a lot of shit from for no good reason other than stating my opinion.

Okay I've been making it known a lot recently that I utterly hate random crits. Not just here on any server I play on in TF2. Why? Because they're so common there's no point in calling them random for one, but that's besides the point. Random crits just brings the game down. Wow you're about to get engaged with someone in a melee battle, the ultimate test of skill? No you're not you got a hit or two but they just crit your sorry ass and you are dead for absolutely no reason besides a hit and luck. That is utter crap. Seriously. It makes every encounter in JB so stupidly predictable. Is there a melee battle? Prepare for a random crit. Is someone getting swarmed and they only let one person get in close enough to get hit by melee? That one hit just cost them the life and they have to sit out for X amount of minutes. "But SyrJirk, stop crying. Just shut up and enjoy the game." - Shitload of people on Jailbreak. HEY FUCKWITS. Maybe my idea of fun is a game that doesn't reward mediocrity and luck over skill and planning. When someone is winning a fight, they should STAY WINNING if they're doing something right. Not auto-lose because their opponent got the upper hand. Sure not every scenario is a loser-gets-random-crit-thus-screwing-over-the-winner scenario, I get that. But often times it IS that way. Often times the crits are just stupid and what could have been a fun engagement turns into sit-the-fuck-down-and-eat-this-crit-pan-simulator. "SyrJirk why are you so salty?" - Mod on JB, I'm salty 1. Because crits are STUPID. 2. Because the JB crowd IS STUPID. I literally got yelled at today for stating my goddamn opinion and why I thought crits were dumb. Meanwhile they tell me to shut up and have fun? For reasons stated above, NO YOU ASSHATS. I will not. The point of these forums, this website, and clan are to gather us like-minded assholes together and create a fun, interactive community of gaming within our respective divisions. Well I'm trying to get a step in that direction by eliminating a completely unnecessary pain-in-the-ass and the people within this clan and that frequent the server are trying to tell me to shut up. You're stupid as hell. Yeah maybe this won't be taken and a change won't be implemented, I have as much of a right to state my goddamn opinion as you fuckers have the right to conga and spam chat at squeakers and blue team members with retarded-ass twelve year old spam. The difference is I have a good idea of what the hell I'm actually talking about and who I'm talking to. "SyrJirk, why are you sexy?" - Me, I don't know probably because I have a red corvette to compensate for my tiny dick size. Take this any way you want, but I'm tired of the fucking 12 year old hivemind taking over in JB and on xG in general. Especially from the goddamn STAFF. Act like you deserve the position you were given, don't be a dick about it.

We should know that for anyone who takes warden. A deep voice =/= maturity and rule knowledge.

This. Pretty much. There's like a half/half split between the maturity of voices on blue. The younger/higher voices take warden more, and want to take it more. The more mature voices don't, yet people will piss and moan on both red and blue that there's a kid. Well half the time no one else takes it and it honestly annoys me 100% MORE when people are bitching about someone's voice. It's like SHUT THE FUCK UP. No one cares if you don't like their voice, get a mic and go on blue and you'll never have to suffer their voice again, until you take warden and do it often you can shut the fuck up as far as I'm concerned. Let the kids talk as long as they're constructive because half the time they're actually trying to do their job well and everyone else is just being a fucking pain in the ass.

There's no real reason to disable it to me. If you don't want Reds to use it wardens can restrict it as they see fit, and whether or not blues use it doesn't matter because Blu team sucks anyways and they'll all die eventually.

It isn't. It's just new and people are doing it a lot. In like two more days the majority will be over it, and there will still be conga parties in pubs but they won't be running rampant like they are now. And it's not even a big deal. Just kill the fuckers if you want and drop the logic bombs on them like a true Syr.