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Incorrect. Even if the initial ban is erroneous, evasion is STILL a big no-no. The proper procedure to follow is to come here to the forums and appeal the ban, not dodge it completely to get back into the servers. I don't care if someone gets banned because the mod that banned them just didn't like them. If they find a way to jump around a ban and get back in the server, it's considered evasion and is punishable. ALWAYS protest a ban correctly and NEVER try to evade, even if you aren't in the wrong.

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Either way, we didn't have any sort of rules set into place for this particular easter egg, so the punishment will not be upheld because of it. That doesn't mean it will always stay that way. The DMs/DLs will convene and decide on this particular point on the map and decide if we will continue to allow it in the future. Evading ban, on the other hand, is a very serious issue. If that's what the perm was for, there's probably very little to no chance it's being undone.

Is it something that is easily triggered or abused? I mean, if it only works against Painis Cupcake, I wouldn't really count this as exploiting, specifically because we don't have any rules against it. But still, if this ban was for ban evasion, I can't really justify an unban on it. >.>

Someone care to explain this "Easter Egg" for me and how it works? (I mean, ban evasion is srs bsns, so if that's the case, this will probably stay, but I am still curious as to what we're talking about.)

Shots fired. It also hasn't been 24 hours yet.

+1 I'll allow it. A: 8 M: 8

Leaders and Managers, final decision? Week ban? Month ban?

KB, u da real mvp. Thread closed.

I was thinking the same thing.

This is appalling. How hard is it for someone to simply say "Yeah, sorry, I'll stop with the spam." instead of going on a verbal tirade at another user for asking them to follow the rules? We have ALWAYS had a rule against the Meet the Medic taunt in water, as it has been glitched for a long while so that the audio of the taunt is amplified across the entire server. We classify it underneath spam because that's exactly what it is. If you go into any Unusual server that has water, there's guaranteed to be a rule against this, or the Meet the Medic taunt has been completely disabled. It's disruptive, loud, and a nuisance. But, at this point, what bothers me is not the minor offense committed via spamming the taunt in the water, it's the verbal lashings Lucy received over her requests that the individuals stop their rulebreaking. The persistant "Lucy is the only one complaining so stfu" was disgusting and completely juvenile, as was the comparisons being made to her being a Nazi. Why? Simply because she's asking you to stop and calling you out on your bullshit when you decide to be a dick about it? Just because only one person is complaining doesn't put that one person in the wrong. Breaking a rule is breaking a rule, and being a complete asshat about it to the person trying to get you to stop is even worse. Rhodo was hard at work doing server stuff, so it wouldn't surprise me if he missed 90% of what was going on, but it is absolutely clear from the demos that this is cut and dry. If someone asks you to stop breaking a rule, just fucking stop breaking the rule. It isn't that hard, and you really SHOULDN'T be a dick about it either. If you're caught in the wrong, just stop, humble yourself, and carry on. THAT'S ALL IT TAKES. @Moosty @kbraszzz @Ohstopyou @Rejects Opinions? Pretty obvious that this is blatant disrespect.

Member will not be permed. Membership increased as a punishment for pointless thread. You now have 23 memberships now. Conglaturation.

Man, all this hate really gets a dude wondering. Does anyone hate me? I hope not. T.T

We made it home safely! Just thought I'd update everyone! Luke's currently napping in his car seat, which he is strangely in love with, but we're gonna continue to take things slow for the next few days. Thanks for the well wishes! :D

+1 Good follow up with the last thread. The aimbot thing was REAL wishy-washy, but we definitely need to take an action against his mannerisms. A month seems sufficient.

It's baby time! :D

After watching the demo that had been slowed, I was clearly mistaken in thinking there were no combined horizontal/vertical movements. At a slower speed, it is much clearer to see that it isn't tracking like your typical aimbot. So I apologize to citizen_ for mistaking it for an actual bot. That takes some skill to be mistaken as a bot like that. I won't, however, condone the attitude and the demeanor. It's not the best and definitely needs to be worked on. So I guess that means I'm sitting at a +1 for unban currently, but something needs to be addressed when it comes to the BM. We also need to ensure that any time we suspect an aimbot that we collect an ample amount of evidence before issuing a ban. 2-3 kills in the span of 15 minutes probably isn't very adequate, because if a user gets banned for aimbotting and protests the ban when we have little to no evidence, the ban cannot stand. While the video was indeed questionable, it isn't substantial in my opinion to warrant a permanent ban. Sorry ohstopyou. I don't necessarily think you were in the wrong. Mistakes were simply made and you were just doing your job. =(

I'm still not sold. Those snaps were MUCH too precise for me to believe that he did them on his own. Like I said, there will be variations in movement when it comes to mouse movement. The kills in the video had no variation whatsoever. They were straight x/y axis movements, which is damn near impossible for a human controlling a mouse to be capable of doing. But then again, we do only have a 15 second video to go off of. The evidence may not be substantial enough to fully decide on whether or not an assisting program was readily used. I just feel caution with these kinds of situations need to be taken.

I will once again +1 this, and hopefully it gets accepted this time. Excellent member, has been with us for a LONG time, and has UberDonator. Great member app. :D

Honest opinion? I watched the demo. The 15 seconds that were captured of this user snagging those headshots looked remarkably botted. I don't care how long the video was, what was CLEAR AS DAY were the horizontal and vertical movements that were precise enough to be suspicious. I don't care HOW many hours you have clocked in on TF2, or how many kills your gun has, or how many UGC events you participated in. NOBODY twitches perfectly horizontal or vertical like that. It's my honest opinion that was assisted by some form of bot. The crouching for headshots is also a pretty dead giveaway, especially when so many bots utilize that as a quick Y-axis shift. That's all BEFORE we even consider the BMing he has been banned for in the past. The guy is purely toxic and, once again, is my personal opinion that he has nothing to contribute to this clan. Hell, he even came in here with an attitude, slinging daggers before anyone even got the chance to approach the situation whatsoever. That leaves a pretty bad taste in the mouth about him as an individual. Had he come in respectfully, humbling himself and requesting an unban in a kind way, I may have been prone to spout the whole "He cares enough to protest" schpeal, but he was an asshole right out of the gate. -1 for unban. I've dealt with my fair share of aimbots in the past, and if you honestly watch that footage, skim the first 15 seconds, and say "naaaah, that's not a bot," you need to learn what botting looks like.

I kind of want to regulate which powers you CAN abuse for 2 reasons: 1. The server doesn't possibly crash, because crashes can occur even when things aren't being spammed over and over again, especially with bosses. They make things super unstable. 2. Who wants to have an Admin Abuse Day end instantly because someone just mass-spammed nukes or something? :D

I didn't even really know this was an actual thing until I read the thread. That, and the fact that I'm expecting my wife to give birth literally at any moment, I mean...I can't exactly be on top of EVERYTHING that happens here 100% of the time. Cut me some slack. I'm literally already trying to do everything you keep telling me to do before you even tell me to do it. Lemme do my job. =p

What do you think I'm trying to do here by suggesting these rules? >.>

Admin Abuse Day isn't possible unless an Admin is on anyways. We shouldn't be doing Admin Abuse Day AT ALL unless an Admin+ is on, so I don't see your concern. The point is to make it so that the Admin Abuse Day is still available, but only if the server is willing. This isn't something JB HAS to do. It's something we're ALLOWING to happen, but it's causing us issues. Hell, I'm 100% fine just doing away with it altogether, but it seems there's a demand for it. Either we regulate it strictly, or we just don't do it at all. There's no middle ground.