JimenyCrickets

LOL. How have you liked xG since you joined 1 week ago? I'm really not quite sure you are qualified to speak on behalf of important discussions like this, and considering that I haven't see you on our JB server at all in the past week I'm not so sure you are qualified to criticize anyone on "activity" levels. I'm glad that she brought this point up though; it seems that a very common component of the argument against Duckii is the "activity" claim. Considering that I have seen Aegean on the JB server a grand total of 1 time ever since I joined back in August (6 months ago); shouldn't we kick Aegean on the grounds of inactivity too? Now, as much as I would LOVE to replace him as Co-Leader, the reason that this argument based on activity falls short is based on a number of factors: 1) Duckii plays on the servers more actively than Aegean, and this doesn't mean that Aegean doesn't do a lot of work. By proxy, Duckii NOT playing on the servers does not make her unfit to be a Co-Leader 2) Activity in the Jailbreak Server has absolutely nothing with Leading or Co-Leading; they do not need to be in the servers to moderate, that's why they appoint moderators and admins. Much of the actual work done by leaders is more of a managerial, broad over-sight sort of action. And I am certain that Aegean and Duckii work together whenever there is something of an importance greater than the common folk such as ourselves can handle. If we were truly to scrutinize based the the proposed criteria, we should definitely impeach Aegean on the same grounds: (activity, disrespect, tangible contribution). Note that I do not count "Forum Activity" as activity, since I view forum jockeying as the lowest form of participation considering that there is no display of skill beyond the ability to run spell check.

Someone argued with me about the "Camping" during Last CT rule. He was running 10+ feet every 15 seconds in a circle. I slayed him for camping. He was very polite about it, but clearly said that he wasn't camping. We need to change the rule. EDIT: Last CT was out in the main cell area. The terrorist in question was jumping around in soccer. Also, if you can see a member of the rival team (CT sees a Terrorist) or (T sees a CT), it is not camping. Otherwise we could slay someone is shooting rebelling terrorists if they were stationary for 15 seconds.

I feel like we already punish people for spamming; I really just want to drive the point home that we can not, and will not, rely upon accusations. The problem that I encounter is that so many people expect that if they AdminChat "_________ FREEKILLED ME", that they will be slayed immediately; this gets incredibly annoying when we go into spec and start investigating and then the same Terrorist spams admin chat until they get kicked. Sometimes when I say "We are watching him" to them, they say stuff like "WOW ADMINS DON'T GIVE A SHIT" or "ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?" which isn't outright disrespect; but needs to be deterred. We need greater allowed punishment for repeat admin chat spammers; because there is very little penalty for spammers as it is and we often get swamped by it since the offenders know that they will simply get kicked or gagged for a few minutes.

Its more like I think it should be there for the players. I should definitely hope that most of our mods/admins know this rule, but it seems like 90% of the players are surprised that we cannot slay just because they tell us things. You may be right that this won't change anything, but if it is in the MOTD atleast we can tell them to read the MOTD when they get upset at us instead of having to explain in chat over and over again. Can I slay people who fuck up their explanations/reasons? Also, a lot of CT's lie; if I can catch a CT lying, can I immediately team ban/switch them?

I'm sorry, I never see you in our servers when I play, what is your In-Game Name? I spec when I am in the server about 33% of the time. I find that my method is far more effective then sitting in spectate all round long. My method of moderation is as follows; 1) I warden when Server is full and I eliminate incompetent CTs by baiting them with my rules to see who is listening and who isn't. I can, on average, identify 4-5 CTs who don't know the rules by this method, EVERY round. It makes it easier to eliminate baiters and gunplanters when I have full vision of the Terrorists, and I can control them better which allows for a better view of who is contributing to the mayhem. When other CTs are warden and the round devolves into freedays/wardays/etc, it is significantly harder to determine when someone gets freekilled or not. Additionally, incompetant wardens will often lose control of the terrorists and the ensuing mayhem makes it impossible to determine when wrong doing is going on. 2) After I have eliminated the first round of incompetant CT's, I switch over to the Terrorist team to see who really knows the rules. When a warden says "Freeze", I jump and crouch and knife to see who knows what a "Freeze" actually is. As soon as I die (almost immediately), I start spectating the round and looking for people who are breaking the rules. I will spend a few rounds here, eliminating the CT who freekilled me along with anyone I catch in spectate. 3) When I get enough complaints about a particular CT and not just isolated accounts from people who don't know the rules, I stay in spec and watch the offenders; slay/ban accordingly. By this time, I start the whole process over again from 1 to refine the CT team.

Can we please put in writing that 1) Admins/Mods cannot slay people based on mere accusations 2) People who constantly spam admin chat with accusations will be Kicked/Banned I'm not saying that people shouldn't let us know who to watch; otherwise we wouldn't know to go into spec/to watch the players. But some people will not stop messaging us until we do something about it; and when things don't go their way they make admin abuse threads and complain on the forums. I feel like nobody knows this fact, or how the administration actually works, and that I have to explain it and repeat it numerous times whenever I play. I moderate during the peak of the server (Full 55/55) and I think it would save me and the other moderators who play during this time (Trif/Ben Dover/Mohammad) a lot of headache if this were the case. Unfortunately, when you have such a small pool of moderators at this time, as opposed to when the server is at half capacity, there are a lot of things we cannot watch, and we definitely need to come to a greater understanding with the populace. I would have to say that the main problem with the way things are is that people do not understand the concept of judiciary fairness; a lot of the time people think we are friends on the internet, and so they will message me in admin chat specifically saying "Smoker someone just free killed me, slay them!" and expect me to do certain things because we are "friends". Even though I have explained the rules to the innumerable times, they take it personally as if we aren't cool with each other, and they get angry and then keep spamming me until I have to explain to them exactly why I cannot slay a CT just because someone complains to me. When I finally gag them, they start spamming me through steam chat. Moderators cannot simply slay people due to accusations; the very best we can do is watch over the perpatrator next round to check for freekilling/rule breaking. When people don't get things their way, they take it personally; as if I think their opinion doesn't matter, or that I like the CT more than I like the person who got freekilled. I want people to stop taking things so personally, and that's why I have removed most people from my friends list so that they do not try and leverage our "friendship" to get things the way they want. That's exactly what happened with SonicBlitz; he thought we were friends enough from months of playing together that if he told me to do something, that I would do it. This is not how things work; favoritism works both ways, and the moderators cannot, and will not, cater towards their friends in this manner unless we want the server to die. So Please, this is as much an appeal to the Head Administration as it is to the Player Base; 1. Fix the MotD to expressly state that Moderators/Admins cannot rely on accusations to moderate 2. Please be more considerate and relaxed? The fact that I now need to worry about admin abuse threads because I cannot moderate 50+ people at the same time is very disconcerting. We moderators do our best to make this server fun and enjoyable; the only thanks we get is complaints that we aren't doing our job.

Oh look its Mathieu0328! The guy who always comes into the server with the [xG:L] tag on! I hope you get unbanned! EDIT: Oh yeah I think its really funny when we ask you to change it and you make it say [G:L] instead! EDIT2: We've collectively warned him about this ~20 times, He just never learns LOL!

Its a good thing that hes standing right behind me, looking over my shoulder, looking at everything I see on my monitor so that he KNOWS that I saw him getting freekilled right?

Tell you what, as soon as I can start slaying people for things I didn't see, I'll start "doing my job". Unfortunately, I only slay people when I actually see them freekill.

My orders were to stack on the Blue Block. I repeat them 2 times for the Terrorists. You were standing on the Blue Block and waited until one of them knifed you to run away. That's called baiting, and you continually baited, trolled, and overall broke the rules. Even after I explained why you were CT banned, you kept on spamming admin chat and making a big deal. Deal with it, boy. And stop fucking crying. EDIT: Don't put words in my mouth either.

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Not hating. I know those numbers are prettyf ucking decent but aren't you alot heavier than I am? As much as I love getting stronger, I do realize that the majority of the reason why I lift is to look good for girsl so I keep it lean. I'm pretty confident that if i gained another 20-30 lbs I could probably bench asmuch as you , if not more.

Hey man, you want some Peanut Butter with that jelly?

For the record, I wasn't talking about you specifically. Don't be self-conscious and insecure; its not a good look.

Since this thread has pretty much become a "I'm gonna brag thread" by now, I figured it's time to put you all to shame. 1. I am 6'2, 200 lbs (God Tier Height, anything > 6'3 is too tall and awkward) 2. 46 Inch Chest, 32 inch waist (Broad Shoulders and Narrow Hips; Genetically, this will be unattainable for 90% of you) 3. I started smoking at age 13, when it was cool. Now that I'm in college and everyone who wants to fit in smokes (I'm talking about pimple faced nerds, wannabe alphas, and fat bitches) I quit cold turkey. Easiest thing in my life; people who cannot quit cigarettes are weak as shit. 4. I can bench 225 lbs ~23-25 times in a row, no breaks. But usually I do low reps (1-3) and am now up to 315 (3 plates). Strength > Endurance IMO. 5. The voice I use when I warden is not the voice I use in real life.

Can you elaborate on rule #2?

Its people like Snackbar which is why I quit smoking. Him and all the fat girls at my college who try to smoke now that its the "hip" thing to do. When a bunch of nerds start enjoying things that the cool kids do, it stops being cool and becomes more lame. That being said, I encourage all of you to start smoking now.

-1 to this. I honestly think that Cherrys is just buttmad that someone is more e-cool than he is and hes mad jelly of how e-popular doug is. My advice? Harden the fuck up and stop QQ'ing just because you wish you were one of the popular kids.

-1. Annoying kid who pretty much trolls the entire time hes on CT. Give him some more time to stop being a nuisance and I will reconsider.

-1. What if someone really wants warden but has a slow connection; we aren't allowed to call it for them?

+1. He is the next Best warden of xG. I am a relic of days long past; it is finally time to usher in a new era of Elite Wardens, starting with Doug.

All of you guys need to stop smoking/never start it. Only the cool kids are allowed to smoke; anyone else who does it is just a poser.

Naturally; I couldn't see any reason why a CT would be opposed to what amounts to balance fixes. It's almost as if people want it to be unfair for CT's!

Don't change it to require more than 5 seconds; I always give 5 seconds after orders and I have never received complaints. If his orders were unclear, then fine; slay him. But don't change the rules of a system that has worked great for everyone else just because 1 person gave you a hard time.

+1 this idea. We will be able to attract a larger number of people with this, which will lead to greater clan enlistment and thus greater outreach.