You all need to realize that this issues stretches far being the issue of getting Shadow back to admin. This is the reason that the clan is so different, that its no longer fun or engaging for many members.
1) We have people plotting against each other to get each other demotions, although for a long time one of the sides had absolutely no reason to and has caused this entire thing to occur.
Everyone knows that there is a grudge, or something similar, between Darkwolf and shadow. Whatever, that craps happens and there is never anything you can do about it. Its also not anything that would ruin the experience for everyone else... until it escalates. I know very well that both sides have been wanting each other for various reasons, but what starts to become an issue is when the plot against each other to get them demoted. Shadow has relied on the community to back up his accusations against Dark, which IMO have been held up fairly well. On the other hand, Darkwolf seeks information to get him demoted. Don't start with the excuses again, I know that you have been trying to get him demoted for a long time. Sitting in spec just waiting for something to go wrong isn't the way to go about it. It's fine if someone messages you and says that Shadow is breaking a rule, but its not fine when you ask people to watch him for you. Then to get on, sit in spec with tags off, and demo until something goes wrong... thats called spying. The only time I would find that acceptable is when there is excessive complaints from the community about a person (Michael) and they are ruining the experience through their actions. Shadow is more than capable at his job, and makes it a good experience. Just because you and your friends want him demoted doesn't give you reason to sit back and spy until he does something wrong just for the fact that you can get him demoted. Gkoo isn't on the server enough to get the full story of this, nor is he very assertive. I can assume with certainty that you told him you wanted to demote shadow, and he more than willingly agreed without any questioning.
2) People are coming up with bs reasons and excuses to back up their "friends" side of the argument.
Just go back to the other thread, look at all the people coming up with bs reasons to protect both you and shadow. Two sides, its like a damn clan war within a clan. Stop protecting your friends and put some logic behind your arguments.
3) There is fear to speak up against those in power, fear that you will be put on the bad side of a DM or worse... demoted.
If people are in fear of speaking the truth or whats on their mind, then there is a serious problem with the leadership. Letting people freely speak what they think, their opinions, and being able to present less than favorable proof is key to having a good relationship between everybody. DM's are the go-to people, the ones who have to handle all of the issues and complaints. You cannot allow your own opinions and anger influence what people say. This has happened before with you Dark, and that last thread was a warning, yet it seems like this hasn't changed.
4) Lying. Cover ups.
All of you might as well go back to your posts and highlight every lie in neon green, because they are that easy to see. Stop the lying and grow up, you want to know the truth: Dark absolutely despises shadow and wants him demoted, he has a hard time doing this because he can't always be on watching so he asks his friends to tell him if he is doing something wrong. The second he does he hops on in spec to demo, hoping to catch him with anything that can be used. Shadow hates dark, both for targeting him and for other unknown reasons. It would make his day for dark to lose DM, but he also finds it hard to get enough proof. Shadow then takes it to the forum to rally everyone together in hopes something will change.
And stop covering up all of the stuff you both do, its as easy to spot as the lies. Dark, I see a lot of excuses to cover up your real motives. Its not like we cant figure out you both despise each other and want each other demoted.
Whats the big picture of all of this?
The hostility that has been created is not acceptable, nor is the fact that we have people in higher positions just waiting for the reason to demoted someone because they dont particularly like said person. Warnings were already given to darkwolf, and as far as I remember he understood them and was going to do better. I like dark as a person, he can be very respectful, helpful, and overall friendly. But the amount of people who are in fear of saying something.. well they dont say anything. Its been a problem for many months now. You cannot be biased as a DM.
Sometimes when joining or changing maps to certain maps my keyboard won't let me backspace, and when I hit the A key the message resets.
I've asked other's if they've had this problem and they said they did.
This only bothers me because I'm a mod and have to slay/gag/mute or whatever else needs done, and I can't. Does anyone know of a way to fix this immediately? It does go away after a while on it's own. But, an immediate fix would be nice.
+1 I remember this kid from a while back. I've seen him on recently and he has a good understanding of the rules. He would make a great addition to xG.
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Alright. I said to myself I'd never reply after the second unban request. Thirteen later (not an exact amount, do not quote and be an idiot.), I decided I would. It has been said enough Duckii, SILENCE banned you. He is the only one who would unban you. I understand that some kid trolled you. That's childish of that person, yes. However, please stop, for the love of Jesus and all that is holy, making ban protests.
Honestly I felt bad for you at first at this point no one cares. Once you started coming into TS rooms and playing music loudly and being all around annoying I stopped giving a shit. JUST. STOP.
+1 Active. He's sort of nice. Used to be a fairly decent mod.
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Get good kid. You're attitude has deteriorated please work on that. Also, this all comes down to if Serb +1's or not. I think you need 3 more plus him.
no legit doe, we aren't "working together" i was trying to get him to put it above his head so he couldn't look in (and get his face on cam again) but he cheated (jew'd) me and did behind his back.
Each -1 with valid reasoning (stating they agree with someone's reason for -1 is valid, quoting it or not) counts as a -1, to your total. each invalid +1 counts as a 0, each 0 is 0.
Prior to this post you were at: 10.
Personally: -1, you have a bad attitude, and disregard for authority.
As for "on topic" in a member submission, just like a ban protest or member protest or ban request, all things pertaining to the individual are taken into consideration.
Ex: Duckii Jr. > Previous suicide threats
Rabid > Previous bans for trolling, general attitude still presented in league messages steam messages and other teamspeak
People banned for hacking > other bans for hacking in other servers
your member submission > YOUR attitude, with proof, or your bans in others servers for joining and intentionally mass freekilling
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