MrSaturday

are you retarded? did you not read what i posted about forge not even a page before? in fact are you all retarded?

You think its ok to shit talk against people who shit talk you? That just shows immaturity and makes you no better than them.

lmfao, fucking kids holy shit.
 
it's like you guys think i do this to people for no reason, these are to little faggots who shit talk because YOU ADMINS never tell them to use the fucking friendly plugin. That's where the situation came out of, i tell you "staff" members to do this and you all NEVER do it, so you sit and watch these kids (moosty does this too) ridicule other players for being friendly, if you want to talk about pushing people away (which isn't true because i and a good group of people got trade gaming to be more populated then pokemon trade) is complete bull shit. you can disagree with my methods but i only do it kids who shit talk, if you don't believe me then go right ahead because honestly when i see you and the rest of the tf2 div run into the locked room like kids @christan did it too and leave me alone because you don't want to hear my "shit" even though the two responsible are in the other room so no reason.
 
You can say "b-b-but u be staff doe" go right ahead because in the end it doesn't mean jack shit. also with that said....
 
i guess i can shit post now since i'm not longer staff :^)

Does a great job as a Staff Member (strictly speaking from first-hand experience of Vector being an ex-Staff Member on CS:S Servers), however his behavior and attitude toward certain situations/scenarios is something that seems disruptive to me. I understand that being a Staff Member can have its ups and downs, and a large portion of players can be incredibly ignorant or stupid, but acting professionally and giving collected responses (without the need for hostile comments or criticisms) is something to be expected from xG Staff. With that said, Vector isn't the only Staff Member who acts this way, but that doesn't excuse for the sort of behavior demonstrated. +/-0

NOTHING against Vector here, and the last thing I wanna do is start a shitstorm, but telling people to kill themselves is 100% unacceptable. If we're joking around in TS, that's totally fine imho. But randoms that come on the server? That's not okay at all. Vector's a REALLY cool dude, but this just isn't okay with me. He drove a personal friend of mine away from the servers and I'm gonna -1 for that main reason, he just drives people away from the server and isn't nice. Fantastic administrator, however, kind of not the most nicest person in the world.
 
don't hate me :c

Lord Zimzam, please kill the negros.

Just hire Zimmerman to get rid of them.

hue

Update 2: passed gas for the first time since being diagnosed with appendicitis and just had blood drawn which hurt like a bitch. Haven't eaten or drunken anything for a few days and there's a tube going up my nose and into my stomach. I'll be back hopefully within 2 weeks, by the time surgery happened my appendix had basically exploded so I'm gonna be hospitalized for at least a week
pls don't demote me

A: I'm no longer staff. I have not been staff for a month. And before that I was without my computer for 3 months so there was 0 ways to play. I started playing again the minute I was back to school like I promised.
 
B: I do get on before other people do. Sometimes it doesn't work. Sometimes I come home to find people already on. Sometimes I get an invite. It doesn't negate the fact that I do try and populate the servers. And as for this:
I didn't realize there was a requirement of being on the whole time after the server is populated. I do believe I just stated I have a life. For example, I have a couple hours between classes so sometimes I get on and get to play but then I have to leave for CLASS. 
C: I wasn't singling you out with the hypocrite comment. Sorry if it seemed like that. Your comment simply reminded me of people I had seen on server after population had started complaining about people never populating.

Hi, yes. I agree with a lot but I'd like to point out this thread in reply to this comment: Staff roster, helpful notes, rules and other things | Xeno Gamers It's not perfect but there are a few of us working to make it, and the community, better. As you said, it doesn't help when there are those that -don't- care. But we are trying.
 
It also doesn't help that in this thread: Cs:s Operation Revitalization | Xeno Gamers a good amount of the posts are "Why are you even trying? Give up." It's not from lack of trying that this happens. It's a lack of people willing to help it. The few that try get turned down.

So just a quick introduction. I joined the xG community december 2010/jan 2011, was co-leader for about 2-3 years and then left due to disagreements towards my fellow higherups. You might know me by Link if not by Aegean. I had a very good history with this clan with exception to duplolas having powers, and then darkwolf having powers, cuz they were retards. Anyways.
 
Why is xG not the same as it once was? It's easy to blame rhododendron/silence for alot of it, but that's not it. He might have caused some shit, but it's not him that's preventing xG to get back to its former glory.
 
1. It's the staff themselves. If you go back to 2011-2013, it wasn't silence alone that was keeping the servers populated and fun, it was the members. The biggest thing was the members who were keen on being staff, and once being promoted, having a positive influence. I remember when jailbreak and other servers had 5-6 + staff on all the time (except for the late night, where myself, cristo and other night owls would populate and play if we were bored) The biggest thing is the staff don't care anymore about bettering the server. You know what I don't see? Mods and Admins constantly asking higher up what they have to do to be promoted. It's true I'm not staff anymore so it might be behind the scenes now, but I remember how active staff were on forums, always asking members what they want from the server, and even people pming me and other higherups for an "operation populate (deathrun)" or w.e . The biggest thing is from talking to many members, and even staff themselves, promotions are much more skewed then they used to be. It's not so much how active you are or how good you are in server, it's more who your friends with, and who you talk to in teamspeak.
 
2. People don't care. Look at the forums. There are so many posts that are stickied but not updated, or stickied that should be removed. I made a post about what the different levels of staff do for this community, and what you can ask them for help with. As higherups, you need to be constantly looking to see what you can do to make this community better. If this isn't your goal while being a higher up, then you should step down or re-evaluate your position. You aren't higher-ups so you can abuse on TS or forums, and just be the shield for your friends when something gets called out against them. You are there to set an example, and make sure EVERYONE (this is key) has a great experience in the servers and community, and that they would want to join and even invite their friends into the clan. This also means that you can't bend rules to appeal to one group of people (example the furries or bronies who don't like being insulted) but then allow NSFW avatars that are actually against the rules because (that's just my opinion). You guys need to understand that you represent the community, as soon as people go "ouu i'm gonna go check out another community" you fucked up possibly many new recruits, ad sense, and donation money.
 
3. Everyone is segregated. Look at teamspeak and look at the ridiculous amount of black lists and passwords in the channels. A select few staff almost never go into a public channel, and that is also very upsetting to newer members who want to meet staff and others and want to play other games with other fellow clan members. I mentioned this a few times, but this is a ridiculous thing that I should be bringing up time and time again. Staff need to acknowledge the newer members, and play games with them or even create events. Before the Cozy boys (Billy, Trif, Rpgs, etc) and I quit, Rpgs had the idea of making a community night. Once a week, we choose a few servers, set up an event to all of xG (through the forums and steam group) and just spend a few hours with the community. Anyone is welcome to join, and just play some games that aren't populated as much. (xG Minigames for example)
 
What does this do?
1. You introduce members to a new game mode that they potentially might like and come back often too, and
2. The members get to meet others (staff, members or just randoms) and get to have fun and feel like they really are in a community.
 
You have nothing to lose from this, you lose 0 resources and you get the community involved; something this community hasn't really done in a long time. You can provide incentives to coming if you can, if not just have fun and play games. This can also prove valuable to members and staff who are looking to be promoted but are often unseen to the people that they need to be seen by.
 
This will not return xG to it's former glory, but it's a start. Once the staff start acting like staff, and stop being spoiled brats who are power-happy at any slight discomfort, this community can lead to the right path back to competing to be one of the top gaming communities on steam. If you disagree or would like to add any points, please I urge you to start a conversation. This is how change starts, from people talking. Thanks for the long read, there is no tl;dr because if you don't wanna read it, you don't care.
 
-Aegean

sup aegean, dead fuck
I agree with pretty much all of this (mostly because i skimmed through it and didn't read all of it but got most of it) but one of the big reasons we don't have population is staff and members are lazy when it comes to populating. There are people who do try their hardest to get population and usually it does work (Phoenix, Haxx, myself, Saturday, DeathGod, Cookie, occasionally Tav, etc.) but there are people who don't seem to have the patience or dedication to keep the servers populated. Although I can't speak for the ever-growing TF2 div they seem to be doing a pretty good job of keeping it populated most of the time of the day. If, like Forest said we start getting on every night knowing that there will be at least some population it would start to bring in regulars that eventually turn into members and even staff. Also, as has been said before, staff members need to get along with each other. That's why @Legend stepped down, he hated some of the mods (mostly me, for god knows why). I know Papercreeper, for example, hates my guts. I have no idea why he does, but he needs to get over the fact that I'm probably not going away any time soon. May or may not edit to add more things as I think about them

!smite @all again

Closed.
 
Banned and if there is membership, its removed. @Ribbit do not wear tags in the servers.

Actually it's been four years.. not just "for days".

+1
 
I'm surprised that ribbit has been doing this for days now and hasn't been banned or revoked/removed of membership. She has done nothing but act immature, insult everybody, and purposely riling up the forums to get some attention. The fact that she has this mindset of somehow making her the victim when she intentional wants to be everybody's enemy. It's like you randomly punch a short wimpy kid at school and then the principal/teacher suspends you for a week and you ask yourself "What did I do wrong!? God people just get so butthurt!"
 
In short, you go around acting like an trolling ass you'll be treated like a trolling ass. It's common sense.

Do I even need to reword that? Because I agree completely. +1

+1
 
I'm surprised that ribbit has been doing this for days now and hasn't been banned or revoked/removed of membership. She has done nothing but act immature, insult everybody, and purposely riling up the forums to get some attention. The fact that she has this mindset of somehow making her the victim when she intentional wants to be everybody's enemy. It's like you randomly punch a short wimpy kid at school and then the principal/teacher suspends you for a week and you ask yourself "What did I do wrong!? God people just get so butthurt!"
 
In short, you go around acting like an trolling ass you'll be treated like a trolling ass. It's common sense.

+1
 
I'm surprised that ribbit has been doing this for days now and hasn't been banned or revoked/removed of membership. She has done nothing but act immature, insult everybody, and purposely riling up the forums to get some attention. The fact that she has this mindset of somehow making her the victim when she intentional wants to be everybody's enemy. It's like you randomly punch a short wimpy kid at school and then the principal/teacher suspends you for a week and you ask yourself "What did I do wrong!? God people just get so butthurt!"
 
In short, you go around acting like an trolling ass you'll be treated like a trolling ass. It's common sense.

+1
 
I'm surprised that ribbit has been doing this for days now and hasn't been banned or revoked/removed of membership. She has done nothing but act immature, insult everybody, and purposely riling up the forums to get some attention. The fact that she has this mindset of somehow making her the victim when she intentional wants to be everybody's enemy. It's like you randomly punch a short wimpy kid at school and then the principal/teacher suspends you for a week and you ask yourself "What did I do wrong!? God people just get so butthurt!"
 
In short, you go around acting like an trolling ass you'll be treated like a trolling ass. It's common sense.

+1
 
I'm surprised that ribbit has been doing this for days now and hasn't been banned or revoked/removed of membership. She has done nothing but act immature, insult everybody, and purposely riling up the forums to get some attention. The fact that she has this mindset of somehow making her the victim when she intentional wants to be everybody's enemy. It's like you randomly punch a short wimpy kid at school and then the principal/teacher suspends you for a week and you ask yourself "What did I do wrong!? God people just get so butthurt!"
 
In short, you go around acting like an trolling ass you'll be treated like a trolling ass. It's common sense.

Why are people so butthurt?

I +1 for at least some sort of punishment (removal of membership and/or ban) as I have plenty of evidence and more of cow disrespecting, harassing, and just being plain r00d to everyone ever

Wow that's deep, and hurtful. I'm very mature, I just have no respect for ingrates.. There's a difference y'kno?