Promotions And Demotions #168

With all due respect friend, but it's just a way for people to voice their opinion on your previous post, you should not act this way toward them for doing so

I also want to tack onto this. That is honestly no way to speak to the community. You really shouldn't care too much about the ratings anyhow. They literally mean nothing as I've said before in a different thread.

@Vexx @Goblins Fair enough, I edited it out. I just get sick of the group of members who constantly berate me with votes, and will not try to have a respectful conversation about topics and instead are reasons for threads getting closed. Regardless I edited out the comment due to my wrong choice of words.

Ayy, everything about pyro is indeed either op or broken ;^)

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Ayy, everything about pyro is indeed either op or broken ;^)

 

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Du är min mod! @virr

So... higher ups who have received multiple warnings for multiple cases of inactivity get another warning? With respect, someone please explain this to me and everyone else who wants to know? @Aegean

Someone appears to have secret insider information here! :yawn:

Any member who might have gotten demoted this week, will get a warning instead if it's due to their activity. We want to encourage members to improve their activity, before straight up demoting them for it anymore.

Also why is everyone getting angry about this post, should we just demote staff without giving them a chance to improve themselves lol.

Someone appears to have secret insider information here! :yawn:

 

Also why is everyone getting angry about this post, should we just demote staff without giving them a chance to improve themselves lol.

Wait, aren't you basically saying that you have already given them a chance to improve themselves and they haven't done so orrrrr

Wait, aren't you basically saying that you have already given them a chance to improve themselves and they haven't done so orrrrr

im saying inactive staff deserves a little heads up to get active, especially Dethman who hasn't been talked to before. My other comment was just me being sarcastic.

im saying inactive staff deserves a little heads up to get active, especially Dethman who hasn't been talked to before. My other comment was just me being sarcastic.

I'm mean Dethman has been inactive for over a month now and the other higherup has been inactive pretty much a 2 weeks or something after you gave him dm

I'm complately fine with warnings for the other staff but personally I feel a demotion was necessary here and I'm sure a lot of other people feel the same way.

I feel like I'm going to cause drama so I apologise in advance :)

Actually, no i don't have secret insider information, @Bello but thanks for confirming that they have been given multiple warnings in the past. So if they have infact received warnings before why are they again receiving another warning?

Actually, no i don't have secret insider information, @Bello but thanks for confirming that they have been given multiple warnings in the past. So if they have infact received warnings before why are they again receiving another warning?

keep your passive agressive comments to yourself, if you would have read my previous post youd know that i was being sarcastic

For starters i would like to apologize to @Aegean for childishly rating him fuck off. Also an apology for my actions, uncalled for 100%.

Secondly I have tried to maintain at least 15 hours of activity now (failed at it, only got 11 this past time) due to having a busy schedule and getting into new games. With the time limit not really being there anymore (might be wrong though, just remember a post), I took that as an excuse to take a little break and start playing games such as fallout mainly due to me being semi-tired of tf2. I still love the servers and the game in general but this past month it was hard not to get bored after 15 minutes of playing. I truly did not believe i was having an issue besides mods and members messaging me telling me to either get more active or step down, never receiving a warning from a higher up. I honestly am starting to find the game more enjoyable as of yesterday and promise to get more active.

TL;DR I am getting more active from this point forward and apologize not only for my actions but for my inactivity.

I think some people need to be thought that whether a staff member is active enough or not is determined by HIGHER UPS, not by the public's vote. I don't see how you think you have a say in the matter, and why you are striving to get people demoted

I personally think anything around 8-12 hours on our servers per 2 weeks is fine enough for a person who's not asking for a promotion nor a demotion, it seems that some of my higher up friends disagree with me on this but i honestly find it stupid that we need to treat people like we're paying them to be a staff members when they're voluntarily trying to keep our servers in check

@Aegean 's jimmies have been rustled! I mean I would too if I realized I was shit at csgo ;)

I think some people need to be thought that whether a staff member is active enough or not is determined by HIGHER UPS, not by the public's vote. I don't see how you think you have a say in the matter

If a normal user can look at someones TF2 activity and they think, "wow this guy is really inactive", they have every right to complain. The eyes of the community can always be judgemental ones, and they can at any point have their say in the matter. Just because it's determined by higher ups, doesn't mean people cannot voice their complaints about the inactivity, opinions are about the only thing people can give in terms of that. No, there's no point in witch-hunting for demotions, but you shouldn't tell people that they can't voice their opinion on others activity, even if it's wrong sometimes.

I personally think anything around 8-12 hours on our servers per 2 weeks is fine enough for a person who's not asking for a promotion nor a demotion, it seems that some of my higher up friends disagree with me on this but i honestly find it stupid that we need to treat people like we're paying them to be a staff members when they're voluntarily trying to keep our servers in check

Unfortunately even if you think that 9 or something hours is fine, it's not and that is proven by the previous demotions for inactivity and the other opinions from the higherups. Even if you disagree you need to follow the guideline of having more than 8 hours on the server like the rest of us

It is of my opinion that DM's and DL's should not be held to same standards of activity on the servers than M's and A's are. This is because it is the job of mods and admins to keep control of the people of the server and handle rule breakers. DM and up take on a bigger role of making sure the server is running smoothly and making sure the server isn't borked. Which means that they should not be expected to have the same server activity as a mod or admin. They should only be demoted if they fail to do their job or just disappear because of work and such as we saw with @Chrono (not throwing him under the bus, he just got a life outside xG. Crazy right?). Idk why everyone is getting all up in arms about the DM/DL activity on the servers when they have responsibilities for the division outside of playing on them. Lol I thought this was common sense, but I guess not.