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Adding on to my previous post, Darkwolf I've noticed that you've created an atmosphere which discourages any kind of dissenting opinions. As a community people have to be able to speak freely and be able to voice their opinions without worrying about demotions as a result.
 
If someone thinks different than you, it shouldn't eliminate them from a chance of promotion or create an opportunity for demotion. As a division manager you need to try to consider the ideas of all, which is why we call ourselves a community.

I realize this, which is what I stated in my first post. It was a perfectly fine abuse report, but once threats started to happen people became defensive. There was no reason for darkwolf to comment like that behind our back, thats not something that should have been done.
 
And if this was an abuse thread for me, shadow, or really anybody not a DM then it wouldnt be an issue of growing up. I came in here to state a legitimate opinion, and get shot down for trying to say it.

Alright, instead of immediately requesting a close to protect your friend from facing any type of ridicule, let people say what they feel is necessary. Closing everything under the reason of "flame war" prevents anybody from ever speaking up and to be frank, the people that are saying it are only saying it because Darkwolf is the one under scrutiny.
 
Moving on, @@Chrono saying "Nigger", regardless of how you meant it can be considered racist. It is a derogatory term and while it may not offend some, there are people that most certainly can be offended and you should be considerate of them.
 
However, @@DarkWolf6052 , I don't normally do this kind of thing but in this case I have to call you out. Hope you realize it's nothing too personal. Upon viewing all the decisions you have made, I have found that you can really be incredibly biased towards your friends, especially on important topics on the forums. Often completely ignoring any other point of view besides yours and your friends.
 
I have also noticed that sometimes you have went straight to teambans for a day without any prior slay, and often times without much proper justification.
 
So, overall I am going to have to +1 to some form of repercussion.

I don't want DMs giving powers to their buddies and giving some bullshit reason that they should be promoted. There should be input by other members for a members promotion.

This is kind of a debate thread. I don't see why you're calling people nimrods because they don't agree with you.

beer

not me fag

So ever since the TTT came up I've noticed a somewhat persistent problem, though it doesn't always happen. Basically, when you buy the radar it pops up all the green circles/red circles but those circles stay in a static location on your screen no matter where you move or what direction you are facing.
 
The same exact thing happens with traitor doors/traitor button options, they are in a static location on my screen and don't move which also prevents me from ever being able to press them.
 
 
I think most people know what I mean already but if needed I can try to record a demo and show you.
 
I've heard many people talking about the bug and it can be pretty annoying, I was just wondering if it would be possible to have it fixed? @@Fuzz @@SkitZoFrenzly. @@DMTwired
 
Also, this doesn't always happen and seems to be somewhat random. However it does happen very often for me and can be pretty frustrating. I don't know if there is any specific reason that causes this on my end but it's been happening with a lot of people.

So ever since the TTT came up I've noticed a somewhat persistent problem, though it doesn't always happen. Basically, when you buy the radar it pops up all the green circles/red circles but those circles stay in a static location on your screen no matter where you move or what direction you are facing.
 
The same exact thing happens with traitor doors/traitor button options, they are in a static location on my screen and don't move which also prevents me from ever being able to press them.
 
 
I think most people know what I mean already but if needed I can try to record a demo and show you.
 
I've heard many people talking about the bug and it can be pretty annoying, I was just wondering if it would be possible to have it fixed? @@Fuzz @@SkitZoFrenzly. @@DMTwired
 
Also, this doesn't always happen and seems to be somewhat random. However it does happen very often for me and can be pretty frustrating. I don't know if there is any specific reason that causes this on my end but it's been happening with a lot of people.

You watched 7 seasons of dexter in one week? Holy fuck.

You watched 7 seasons of dexter in one week? Holy fuck.

Don't so how we unban some people for mass freekilling and then randomly say that others should have known better.
 
This is against everything I believe but if everybody else gets unbanned then it's not fair that you shouldn't be unbanned..
 
I'm not one for referring to past events, but this is happening as we speak. Though I'm one to believe that punishments should be carried out, if we unban everybody I don't see why we just stop for Lapiz. Sure we have to draw a line somewhere, but if nobody wants to draw it for Laith or anybody else, then I don't see why Lapiz should be different.
 
The one thing I REALLY don't understand is why some staff post +1's for some things because they "haven't had a problem with him in the past" and then the same people post a -1 on another thread saying "they should have known better". Dafuq? This is with high staff too. If we aren't consistent with the punishments we give out, can we at least be consistent with our rulings?

Never specified timezone. It's past 12 am somewhere in the world.
That's a good point.
 
 
My dad walked in on me and saw that pink shit and thought it was a porn website. lol...

Never specified timezone. It's past 12 am somewhere in the world.
That's a good point.
 
 
My dad walked in on me and saw that pink shit and thought it was a porn website. lol...

Never specified timezone. It's past 12 am somewhere in the world.
That's a good point.
 
 
My dad walked in on me and saw that pink shit and thought it was a porn website. lol...

but i think its time to stop making the forums look like darkwolfs closet

Your boyfriend? Or...

Don't so how we unban some people for mass freekilling and then randomly say that others should have known better.
 
This is against everything I believe but if everybody else gets unbanned then it's not fair that you shouldn't be unbanned..
 
I'm not one for referring to past events, but this is happening as we speak. Though I'm one to believe that punishments should be carried out, if we unban everybody I don't see why we just stop for Lapiz. Sure we have to draw a line somewhere, but if nobody wants to draw it for Laith or anybody else, then I don't see why Lapiz should be different.
 
The one thing I REALLY don't understand is why some staff post +1's for some things because they "haven't had a problem with him in the past" and then the same people post a -1 on another thread saying "they should have known better". Dafuq? This is with high staff too. If we aren't consistent with the punishments we give out, can we at least be consistent with our rulings?

I thought I posted this yesterday but apparently it never went through. I did originally just post a +1 but I would like to elaborate on my reasoning.
 
Most of you who are -1ing are doing so because you saw him trolling and doing certain things that may not fit the role of a co-leader.
 
My personal opinion is that the majority of these things are isolated instances and generally nonrecurring. I feel like so many of you take this clan so seriously and that any form of deviation from basically ANY rule is an incredibly bad offense. Most of the times you considered him to be trolling was him just having a bit of fun, though there are exceptions.
 
Another thing is that throughout his time in xG, which honestly is a LOT longer than most of the people who -1'd, he has helped in tons of ways. From the rise of TF2 division to helping out the clan as coleader and sticking around when a ton of people jumped on the bandwagon and left.
 
@@DarkWolf6052 I don't know the huge problem you have with him, other than the fact that he criticizes the clan. I'm not trying to attack you in any way, but if everybody has the same mindset no reform would ever be accomplished. Different opinions =/= trolling
 
The main thing I disagree with Brian is saying that the clan is dying, or that "The community is dead". The Tf2 community is thriving under @@MuffinMonster and @@Rise. CSS is also doing a good job keeping a fast aging game populated. Disrespect is an issue that will always come up with new members, so we have to do a monthly review of disrespect. But that will always happen as new members join and don't bother looking up old threads.

You could say that they are a Deviant group huehuehue.

I thought I posted this yesterday but apparently it never went through. I did originally just post a +1 but I would like to elaborate on my reasoning.
 
Most of you who are -1ing are doing so because you saw him trolling and doing certain things that may not fit the role of a co-leader.
 
My personal opinion is that the majority of these things are isolated instances and generally nonrecurring. I feel like so many of you take this clan so seriously and that any form of deviation from basically ANY rule is an incredibly bad offense. Most of the times you considered him to be trolling was him just having a bit of fun, though there are exceptions.
 
Another thing is that throughout his time in xG, which honestly is a LOT longer than most of the people who -1'd, he has helped in tons of ways. From the rise of TF2 division to helping out the clan as coleader and sticking around when a ton of people jumped on the bandwagon and left.
 
@@DarkWolf6052 I don't know the huge problem you have with him, other than the fact that he criticizes the clan. I'm not trying to attack you in any way, but if everybody has the same mindset no reform would ever be accomplished. Different opinions =/= trolling
 
The main thing I disagree with Brian is saying that the clan is dying, or that "The community is dead". The Tf2 community is thriving under @@MuffinMonster and @@Rise. CSS is also doing a good job keeping a fast aging game populated. Disrespect is an issue that will always come up with new members, so we have to do a monthly review of disrespect. But that will always happen as new members join and don't bother looking up old threads.

Sorry bud, my views haven't changed, and it's far too recent from the last one.
 

+1 real nigga

+1 real nigga

I made a thread a while ago Suggestion (Anonymous Player Reporting) which outlined the idea of making a system of anonymously reporting rule breakers etc. This as well as other factors led to the creation of the bad idea forum.
 
However, the only thing this forum is used for is for troll threads and other random postings. Many are also hate threads and things of that nature etc.
 
When I came up w/ the idea I noted the fact that these reports should be a highly regulated type of thing, not like it is today. Instead of allowing people to post random threads I was thinking something along the lines of:
 

Choosing Member Protest, Ban Request, Admin Abuse, Anonymous Suggestion, Other.
Have a forum admin approve each submission. If a user posts a troll thread the forum admin, (although he will not know who posted it) can bar that specific user from posting other troll threads.

Like I said in my previous thread, this would allow users to be able to post their true feelings about people in an anonymous setting free of ridicule from other members. I think this was an especially good time to resuggest this as it coincides with the monthly cycle of complaining about disrespect/abusers.
 
Now I know people may say that you shouldn't be afraid to voice your opinion but let's be honest. A huge number of people don't reply to threads solely because they are afraid of harming friendships or facing ridicule. Thus, the true opinion of the community isn't heard.
 
Also, if possible, maybe a way for users to anonymously respond to ban requests/protests/member/admin abuse that are already up. They too would have to go through the approval process to prevent troll threads.
 
So, tl;dr :
 

In order to actually give use to anonymous posting (bad idea) I suggest (as I did in my first thread) to actually regulate the process and prevent troll threads.
Anonymous replies to threads that are already up. ( would be regulated in the same way)

Tell me what you think!
 
@@Forest backed up this idea, tell me what you think and any additional things to add
 
@@Rhododendron