Osiris

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lol this was when i was leaving the server and said "I will rps anyone on top of fallgame or you can kill me". why the fuck is this a thread

Since I can't edit my post,
 
+1.
 
Why?
 
Because, all in all, he's a pretty cool guy
 
A:Cool
M:Cool
Overall opinion: has a mic. Owns a computer
 
 
On a serious matter, Forest haas always been one of the "problem solvers" of xG, he would always be the one(as well as others) to offer a resolution if there's an argument, flame war etc. He's active on the forums, and he also has prior experience.

The hell is that supposed to mean?

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If it exists and has an issue to this degree you should have set rules for it to begin with in the first place, if you guys actually had seen how things work on jailbreak without having to watch some guys youtube video, this thread shouldn't even be a thing and neither should abuse days.

Admin Abuse Day isn't possible unless an Admin is on anyways. We shouldn't be doing Admin Abuse Day AT ALL unless an Admin+ is on, so I don't see your concern.
 
The point is to make it so that the Admin Abuse Day is still available, but only if the server is willing. This isn't something JB HAS to do. It's something we're ALLOWING to happen, but it's causing us issues.
 
Hell, I'm 100% fine just doing away with it altogether, but it seems there's a demand for it. Either we regulate it strictly, or we just don't do it at all. There's no middle ground.

My two cents. If the other DM's/DL's like the idea, we will begin immediately enforcing this suggestion:
 
1. Admin Abuse Days can be an LR request, but once it is requested, it MUST pass a 70% vote in server before the next day actually begins. If the vote doesn't pass, the next day becomes a normal Freeday. No reselections are permitted.
2. When Admin Abuse Day begins, Admins are allowed to abuse their server commands, but cannot use any commands that would otherwise crash the servers. This includes spawning bosses, using the Halloween Smasher, AIA with Rockets/Stickies, or launching Nukes. Everything else, including commands such as noclip, grab, powerplay, ROF, and goto are all fair use. Simply put, don't use anything that has the potential to crash the server and you're fine to abuse the rest of the day, and make sure you reset all commands before the next day begins.
3. Admin Abuse Day ends the second the round is over.
4. Admin Abuse Day should be limited to every once in a good set number of rounds. It isn't an LR that should be selected every other day, because not only does it need to pass a server vote, but it is also a round where no winners will be selected. Admins need to use Admin Abuse Day to their discretion. I probably would limit it to, at most, one Admin Abuse Day an hour or so.
5. Play resumes as normal the following day.
6. If someone requests an Admin Abuse Day and one has recently been done, deny the request and have them select something else.
7. If a server crashes because of Admin Abuse Day, the Admin responsible can face disciplinary actions, and Admin Abuse Day will no longer be tolerated for the remainder of the day.
 
I feel like Admin Abuse Day is an integral part of the JB experience, and gives our Admins an outlet to abuse their powers every once in a while, which I feel translates into less ACTUAL abuse in other servers. I don't think it's wise to do away with it, but I do feel it needs some sort of control. It shouldn't be free range, and servers shouldn't be crashing because of it, and it also shouldn't be happening willy-nilly either. The server should be in agreement to participate in said event and it shouldn't be thrown at everyone without the permission or expectation of the server beforehand.
 
@Moosty @kbraszzz @Ohstopyou @Rejects
 
Feel like this is a fair compromise?

That's exactly what I said. I figured it was common sense, but apparently people find it funny or have no self-control with these kind of things.
 
Which is why I posted on this thread in the first place. I don't care about his comments, it appeared he was having fun (Muself?). I care about what I saw and how that's probably why the servers are crashing.

I wasn't talking about the crashing situation I was referring to everyone acting like we got a bad rap for doing shit like that. In other words I was trying to say It's not that big of a deal so don't worry about it. 
If it really hits home with you kiddos, you are super offended by these instances, and you wanna fix the crashes by all means petition to add a staff rule that doesn't allow you to do over the top shit that WILL crash the server. I just thought everyone knew that it was common sense not to try to crash the server by blasting the map with 80 nukes, but I suppose not.

I'd say a higher up should decide on it. It's too chaotic imo and most staff would either accept or deny simply because they are bored of it.
 
Or, test what was already successful... *cough* diabeetus *cough*

Now while I wasn't on that day, that is not most admin abuse days are, at least from my personal experience. Most days its us getting put in carts, buddha, nukes, etc. Not once in my entire time playing here have I seen it how it was shown in the video. Either that or I have a really bad memory :D

I think this thread has run its course. Admins, please lock @kbraszzz @Ohstopyou @metalslug53 @Moosty

I think this thread has run its course. Admins, please lock @kbraszzz @Ohstopyou @metalslug53 @Moosty

correct me if I am mistaken... but only 7 of those 11 events are crashes, and they appear to be 1 per server.... not 1 server 7 times.... ??

Not talking about his opinion. It seemed like he had fun. I'm talking about the 30 emails a day I get from server crashes. Not all of that is plugins or maps.

I don't see why its been here for this long, and now just because some youtuber came in on it happening people think it should be removed? That's sure what it sounds like to me, I'm staying neutral on this for now, I don't see how simply some guy joining a server can effect this.

TLDR: DO NOT DO THIS

Or, you know, it would get people to change the maps more often because I always hear whining about staying on certain maps forever. Clearly since people go overboard with it and actually crash the server, there needs to be some level of control. (Don't think I don't know. I get emails everytime the server crashes.)

Thing is, though, Muselk didn't really advertise for us. He didn't give out our IP or any identifying information, just a few seconds of us doing dumb stuff for fun. There wasn't anything to worry about until someone commented on the video saying "Hey, that's us!". Even then, we didn't have to make a big deal of it. To the viewers, we could have said something like, "Hey guys, we have a Jailbreak server, we like to get a little crazy sometimes but it's all in good fun, just join our server at xxx to have a good time." Instead, some were tripping over themselves saying, "Sorry everyone had to see that, this isn't what we're about, but you should join our server anyway because we're cool except for that part!" See the difference? Don't apologize for yours or others' actions if it looks like someone might enjoy that kind of entertainment; instead, have a laugh at yourselves and make it out like we were just being silly and our servers are actually quite fun because of (rather than in spite of) the occasional silliness. Not chiding anyone, just a bit of advice for the future. :)

How about this? You may only do it ONCE per map, and it must have a vote with 70% or more. If you want to have it as a warden, or for lr, you must ask if there was one previously on the map. If there was, no beans.

lol we've done this before, it was really fun for players & staff alike. you know why? because the actual good staff knew how to use restraint, and how to force others to use "restraint" when using powers. in other words, "abusing" on those "abusive" admins. kicking them from the server over and over.
Any staff should know when to stop using powers, even if they are allowed to abuse it and/or it will crash players or the server. Sometimes it's funny, sometimes it gets too much and you're just being a dickhead.
 
As for the youtube comment, I really believe that was a joke and meant to be taken as a joke. Kinda hard to read the parts where you two actually apologize for some reason and go on having your own conversation.. ugg


 
If it's meant for fun, and taken as fun (aka STAFF USING SOME RESTRAINTTTTTTT NOT CRASHING PEOPLES GAMES) - keep it.
 
Can't say much other than my opinion on this, though. not TF2. let's just hope it's not brushed off

If it's going to be kept, it has to be pretty strictly regulated, especially if there's a problem with staff going too far. We did something similar on CS:S called Late Nite Jailbreak, and in my opinion it was pretty successful. It was fun for pretty much everyone, CT's and T's broke tons of rules, admins abused a lot (not too overboard, no one was slaying @all every single day, it was mostly somewhat innocent) and it allowed for staff to let off some much-needed steam. I would suggest emulating this as megarobin suggested. Schedule a specific day and time for it to happen (I would suggest a Friday or Saturday night), let everyone know that it's happening and see what people's opinions are, and for a couple of hours just let loose. If people don't like it, then it should probably be scrapped. If everyone is having a fun time and people seem to be enjoying it, keep it around and we can have them as a regularly scheduled event. However, I don't think that it should remain as a choice for last request. Occasional abuse can be fun, but having it too frequently can turn people off to the server. This isn't something that should be happening every day.

If this abuse day only lasts one round, i highly doubt that if it was actually voted or LR'd for that they would be that unaware, and they would wonder what's going on. Also, one day doesn't lose all players, and if it does, it has less of a chance if.. sigh.. restraint is held.
Strict votes was an idea that mainly aims for a 80-100% "yes" server vote while "yes" is on the second selection to make sure players read before voting and understand what will be happening tomorrow for ONE round and ONE round only
 
And, even though that youtuber part was just an example, it's then aimed towards other people who read your post and have that reaction.
 
that "offensive" part was mostly toward dethman. I'd like to be as careful around you guys as possible.
 
I'm not trying to keep this day on no matter what, i'm just giving ideas so you guys don't suddenly say "oh ok lets remove a rather good idea immediately!"

and to me, this just simply looks like everybody is saying +1 because the youtuber recorded us and oh noo we've been caught, better change our ways or that single comment section with a VERY small amount of negativity toward the server will ruin it, or that one guy whose game crashed because he totally didn't have a horrible PC.
 
Not to be taken offensively, though. Just how it looks to me.