TheRealMcoys

Hey guys. So as you can probably imagine, I'm posting this thread to address what [to some] appears to be an issue with the 'calladmin' plugin. There have been a few concerns and several problems surrounding the plugin; namely, the abuse thereof. Numerous times players have been banned for abusing the command, and while it makes sense that players who are purposely (and maliciously) utilizing the plugin are punished, there are those who are simply trying to alert Staff because they're either fed up with rule breakers or are otherwise disgruntled. With that in mind, it's important to remember that players may be unstable when issuing the calls (IE. frustrated or upset, thereby resulting in an increased possibility of spamming the command). But I digress.
 
The purpose of this thread is to discuss an alternative that @Vertex initially proposed (in a Steam Group Discussion which you may find by clicking here) that I think is certainly worth considering. Long story short, Stickz proposed that instead of punishing the user for spamming the command by banning them, they would instead either be barred or silenced. In my opinion, this alternative is a far more productive and far less harmful way of dealing with the spam of the command.
 
For convenience, here is/are the code/txt that Stickz provided:
 
[spoiler=sourcecomms.inc]

>/* Punishments types */ enum bType{ bNot = 0, // Player chat or voice is not blocked bSess, // ... blocked for player session (until reconnect) bTime, // ... blocked for some time bPerm // ... permanently blocked } /** * Returns the client's mute type * * @param client The client index of the player to check mute status * @return The client's current mute type index (see enum bType in the begin). */ native bType:SourceComms_GetClientMuteType(client); /** * Returns the client's gag type * * @param client The client index of the player to check gag status * @return The client's current gag type index (see enum bType in the begin). */ native bType:SourceComms_GetClientGagType(client);
 
[spoiler=Plugin Code]

>#include <sourcecomms> if (SourceComms_GetClientMuteType(client) != bNot && SourceComms_GetClientGagType(client) != bNot) { // The client is silenced. Block client from using call admin. }
 
 
Obviously this is completely up to the discretion of the TF2 Higher-Ups, but it does seem like a more passive and less aggressive approach to dealing with players who abuse a command that is there to improve Server relations.
 
Opinions? Comments? Hate-speech? Provide it below :coffee:

Nononono, we don't ban people for spamming the sm_calladmin command, we ban them for intentionally using the plugin for no reason at all.
We [staff] get a notification everytime someone uses the command through a steam bot.
[spoiler=looks like this]

>22:08 - [xG:CA] Killer Keemstar: New report on server: [xG] Trade Gaming History - http://XenoGamers.com (64.74.97.69:27015) ReportID: 1 Reporter: Otaku Krampus (STEAM_0:1:88632487) Target: The Color Pootis (STEAM_0:1:77315912) Reason: Massive mic spam Join server: steam://connect/64.74.97.69:27015 When in game, type !calladmin_handle 1 or /calladmin_handle 1 in chat to handle this report 22:10 - [xG:CA] Killer Keemstar: Last report (1) was handled by: [xG:M] Randy Moss
 
 
Some staff members actually stop doing what they're doing (i.e homework, playing other games etc.) and it's more than awfully annoying when you join to see that someone was just like "XD funi plugin let me see what it does :O".
Before you actually use the command, it gives you an explicit message that says abusing calladmin will result in a punishment:

Gyazo - 5745f24b298eed00c3e48bc16fdb6d4d.png
(Gotta fix the message btw, lol.)
Not only is banning people for abusing that feature after being given an explicit warning more than a legit reason, silencing seems too lenient to me. Keep in mind: I am not saying people who use the calladmin feature for a purpose should be banned, just if they do it for no reason at all.

I expect our staff to use common sense to determine whether it actually had a [legit] reason, which includes the scenerios you've mentioned, or not.
That being said I'm personally against the idea of changing our system.
EDIT: I hope this does not seem hostile at all, I'm about to head to sleep and I rushed this post.

Teambanned two people on jailbreak yesterday, for "micspamming and using voice changer", then Tatost and Bagel joined the server, and we figured out we're all chipmunks :D

The only people who complained about it were people that didn't like fun, lol
 
 
 
In all seriousness, I enjoyed sand quite a bit, which is why I spent so much time on it when we put it back on jb2 when jb2 was still a thing. Idk if I would agree with some of the things people are saying about the map, like getting creative with gamemodes on the map, considering last I remembered very few of the games actually did anything. If we are wanting to bring back old maps I would seriously recommend legojail, when jb2 was still a thing I got together a group of people and we played on legojail quite extensively, now granted (if i remember right) it was removed due to lag problems (at least that was the main problem i think, along with games not working), well we found an actually older version of the map that ran perfectly fine, since the one that was on jb1 all those years ago was a beta map and still had bugs, so we just put the old one on jb2 and it worked fine. I can take some screenies or something of legojail if people that have never seen it want to see it or whatnot.

No, never.

I dont know if this has been mentioned yet but I'm gonna post it anyway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiXy7R0Vxt0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BoDfGuybb4

Both servers have their own different communities, merging the two would create a lot of conflict. TGH maps don't go on Pokemon because they're not Pokemon related, Pokemon was made because we had an abundance of Pokemon maps a long time ago that were overly played. TGH has so many maps because it covers more of a general area for games, whereas Pokemon maps cover a small niche for one game. Merging the two would be a mistake, and as long as it keeps population I see no reason for getting rid of Pokemon Trade or TGH.

Hey what's poppin' guys.
Recently we've been getting a lot of complaints about staff abusing their powers. And by a lot I mean a humongous amount of complaints. By putting this PSA up I just wanna make some things clear:
 

Selling services for credits is not allowed. Services like: gagging/muting, launching players in the air via rocket, setting gravity for credits. This is honestly awful and represents the servers/clan really badly overall.
 
We were never really strict on abuse, as a result there's been a lot of complaints. For example: Staff giving themselves like 50k HP to block the opposing team's spawn. Like, really? Mods+ have the ability to start votes, if you wanna have some fun with commands like sm_gravity you can always make a vote and see how it goes. Actual abuse will no longer be tolerated, this does also include using commands on everyone for no reason when the round ends etc.
 
Staff members must show respect when dealing with players. We get it, although some people are incredibly hard to deal with, as a staff member you must treat others with respect.
Starting to disrespect rule-breakers or even harassing them will most likely result in a removal of your powers and possibly a ban.
Staff members are also not excluded from breaking rules such as micspamming etc.

Make sure to read this guide: TF2 Staff Manual (Everything you need to know!)
 
==> @Bagel <<= @Bello (me!) @Goblins @mrnutty12 @Vexx @lik202 @BlankuChan @Egossi @Vixen @Rejects @ArminArmout @Osiris @Shwoos @Dethman @Shadower @Floppy @Vacindak @Kypari @Tatost @Flareon @Parasect @TheSupremePatriot @ThunderLimes @YeEternalTuna

Well we could always go with the ever-popular Randomizer or x10. As for a personal suggestion, an old community game-mode I played was Huntsman Hell. Here's a video that explains Huntsman Hell pretty well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTu23_QKvwg

hey ks plz make like 8 earrape buttons so i can spam

I don't play LoL that much anymore, but this Veiger Wallpaper's the :poop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xm0O_rqq_w

Eeewww ;~; That scarred me

Too much.

It needs power to run I think :3

I don't play LoL that much anymore, but this Veiger Wallpaper's the :poop:

Missing daughter of markiplier lul

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Hello, this is a thread that is supposed to introduce new players to our servers, rules and much more!
 
 
Servers:
Server list! - Updated list of servers and IPs
Server Maps - Downloads for all the maps on the tf2 servers
 
 
Rules:
Tf2 Surf Rules - Surf
Freak Fortress Rules - Saxton Hale
Tf2 Jailbreak Rules - Jailbreak
Tf2 Death Run Rules - Death Run
Trade Gaming History Rules - Trade Gaming History
Pokemon Trade Rules - Pokemon Trading Center
Uber Upgrades Rules - Uber Upgrades
 
   
Staff:
Admin Handbook - Anything Staff Related!
XenoGamers Staff Roster - Current Staff Roster!
 

Over the past few weeks our jailbreak server has been improving as I've tried my best to detect every single problem we've had over the past few years and have someone with experience fix them.
If you have any sugggestions for anything to be fixed, improved, added or removed, make a post below.
 
Fixes that have been made with the credits to people who did them:
Team Glitching / Skipping the !guard queue - @Nomulous
Gun Glitching - @Rhododendron
Sentries - @Nomulous
Collisions toggle command in /menu - @Nomulous
Open cell doors command in /menu - @Bleed
Sappers brought back, The classic works on red as well and PDAs are disabled again - @Nomulous
!RewardMe pinion ads removed (don't know if it's only jailbreak or all servers) - @Rhododendron
Any I missed PM me on steam
@Bello @Goblins @Rejects @mrnutty12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4odD2Bg1_0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfeyUGZt8nk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHPgco6GQk8

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