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Remove Cyberpunk 2_a for Nudity/not being PG-13

Should we either remove 2_A or be more transparent with exceptions to rules?  

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  1. 1. Should we either remove 2_A or be more transparent with exceptions to rules?

    • no, shadow government for life
      16
    • yes, the people deserve to know
      4
    • Keep it but change the Rules so it isn't contradictory
      4


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Then we should change the rules to reflect that, right now we're random spawning people in front of a nude woman while the MOTD says no nudity. I'm not necessarily saying remove it, just change the rules so it isn't blatantly contradictory.

 

What would changing the rules have to do with the image in the map?

 

Also we recently had a change in rules for player images if thats your other concern.

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So basically we have a map on TF2's Trade Gaming history that has a full body image of a nude woman, tits, bush, minge and all, and our staff has been allowing it because "it's artistic" well I looked at the rules and they said no nudity and to keep it PG-13, So I'm confused as to where I can find this "If it's artistic nudity is allowed" clause in our rules. I won't post an uncensored image, since nudity on forums is banned artistic or not(LOL it's almost like that's the rule), but here's one with the naughty bits covered by sprays, though it's clear what's happening under said sprays.

 

Steam Community :: Screenshot :: we don't allow nudity

 

 

I honestly Don't care about the decision either way as I like the map, I just don't want to see special treatment behind the communities back just because a map is well made and fun. If we allow it to stay I'd like a clause added to our rules that we host maps with nudity as long as DM+ find them artistic enough, because otherwise we're just breaking our own rules and confusing new players by randomly spawning them in front of a naked woman 10+ scout models tall while simultaneously telling them through motd that we're a pg-13 community that doesn't allow nudity. I just want consistency with our rules, or just transparency in cases we aren't consistent. that's my reason for making this thread.

 

 

 

tagging relevant staff @Vexx @Sesh @mrnutty12 @Bello @Aegean @Rhododendron @virr @whoever I forgot I'm sorry fam

can you be more clear in your question in the poll? I'm not sure if what you're asking is to remove the map or make the rules more transparent.

Please answer.

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can you be more clear in your question in the poll? I'm not sure if what you're asking is to remove the map or make the rules more transparent.

You're right, I added a third option to reduce confusion, thanks for the suggestion.

 

 

Edit: I can't edit original options though, it should make MORE sense now though

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You're right, I added a third option to reduce confusion, thanks for the suggestion.

 

 

Edit: I can't edit original options though, it should make MORE sense now though

 

Thanks, changed my vote from 'no' to 'keep it but make the rules clearer'

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You're right, I added a third option to reduce confusion, thanks for the suggestion.

I still don't know what the first 2 answers mean, you're asking like 2 different questions and the first 2 answers can go either way to be honest.

 

However, my vote goes to -1, great map, never was a real problem before.

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In my 7th grade history class we had to watch a documentary about artists in the medieval age. Most of the statues we saw were naked men and women. Again, I was in seventh grade and everyone thought it was completely fine. It's not like people bellow the age of 18 are strictly forbidden to see titty and dicke balls.

If that's true then why have the original PG-13 rule to begin with? just let the porn flow if we can't do anything about it and it's part of life.

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I still don't know what the first 2 answers mean, you're asking like 2 different questions and the first 2 answers can go either way to be honest.

 

However, my vote goes to -1, great map, never was a real problem before.

I can't edit those I triiiieeed. maybe someone with forum powers can change them too "Yes remove the map because it breaks our rules ' and "No, Let it stay, and keep the exception hidden from the population"

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are you saying we should show kids a load of porn lol

No, I'm saying If we have a rule against porn we should be consistent with it, not allow porn sometimes If people like a certain map. If we allow exceptions, the rule should say we allow exceptions.

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The image in question is not in any way striking an erotic pose, and the picture is obviously used in an artistic from. It's a rough sketch, not anything close to being "highly detailed" nor even possibly showing any more than really needs to be shown. Keep in mind, this is a far stretch from pornography, so calling it porn is not exactly the way to go about it. Hotel Hell has a pixelated porn magazine and we allowed it because it's literally so small that it's hardly noticeable nor does it make that much of an impact. You would've been better off making a "remove hotel hell" thread since that is more closer to pornographic than the image on Cyberpunk.

 

Edit: But if you guys really want the image removed, I can ask someone to simply remove the image in Hammer.

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Why would the administration of my school allow that documentary if it was porn? Because it was all artistic nudity

Schools have permission slips that tell parents when nudity is coming. We are random spawning players in front of a Vag and Bush the size of a playermodel with no warning. If parent's didn't want their kids seeing the "artistic nudity" they had the option not too. can you see how that's different than dropping randoms in front of a hairy bush with no warning?

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The image in question is not in any way striking an erotic pose, and the picture is obviously used in an artistic from. It's a rough sketch, not anything close to being "highly detailed" nor even possibly showing any more than really needs to be shown. Keep in mind, this is a far stretch from pornography, so calling it porn is not exactly the way to go about it. Hotel Hell has a pixelated porn magazine and we allowed it because it's literally so small that it's hardly noticeable nor does it make that much of an impact. You would've been better off making a "remove hotel hell" thread since that is more closer to pornographic than the image on Cyberpunk.

 

Edit: But if you guys really want the image removed, I can ask someone to simply remove the image in Hammer.

A pixelated porn magazine on the ground, half the size of a scout model, that you can avoid. and a non pixelated naked woman, vag flaps, bush, and nips unpixelated and detailed, 10ish scout models tall, that the map randomly spawns you in front of are very different.

 

and Whether porn or not, it's detailed, unpixelated nudity, and not pg:13. if we keep it I just want consistency in the rules

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hey remember Dracula dick?

Hey remember how we instantly removed that map because it broke our rules?

 

 

..But it was funny while it lasted ;)

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A pixelated porn magazine on the ground, half the size of a scout model, that you can avoid. and a non pixelated naked woman, vag flaps, bush, and nips unpixelated and detailed, 10ish scout models tall, that the map randomly spawns you in front of are very different.

 

and Whether porn or not, it's detailed, unpixelated nudity, and not pg:13. if we keep it I just want consistency in the rules

Your description is once again, blowing it way out of proportion, kinda like this entire thread. The image you used has all the parts you just described in "vivid (concerning) detail" covered up with sprays. It's nowhere near as bad as you are saying it is, it's once again, the roughest sketch it can possibly be while still considered art.

Hey remember how we instantly removed that map because it broke our rules?

 

 

..But it was funny while it lasted ;)

That's because maps with actual pornography are removed, exceptions can be made for maps where it's almost unnoticed, such as Hotel Hell.

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