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Nigga is not a slur.

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It might help you understand what I mean more.

I understand what you mean by the video but with it being idubbz and him being known for saying the n-word and you a random person on a tf2 server who is supposed to follow server rules

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The point is that it's not politically correct to go and shout racial slurs in a public server. "Hard R" or not.

Hey I respect your opinion but I still stand by what I said. I will follow the rules but that doesn't mean

I agree with them

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Hey I respect your opinion but I still stand by what I said. I will follow the rules but that doesn't mean

I agree with them

Why do you even want to say the n-word anyway like what does it get you?

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Why do you even want to say the n-word anyway like what does it get you?

It's really not all about that, it's secondary to the points I made after and I used it as an example of hypocrisy.

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A lot of people still get mad when people say the n-word around them.

Im pretty sure Idubbbz says in the video that when a person uses one word so often the meaning of it lessens.

Basically the n-word might not be rude to you but there are still many many people that think that it is extremely rude and they will usually get mad whenever people say it around them.

 

Considering that we want to appeal to everyone so that the clan gets bigger and bigger, if we allow slurs im pretty sure that certain people wouldn't want to play on our servers.

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You have a few good points, but a few more dumb ones, and here's why.

 

Nigga is NOT an offensive slur, it's used by black people all the time as a term of endearment.

Yeah it actually is, Nigga is slang for Nigger, which is an offensive term which has been used to insult blacks every since America's slave days.

There's a lot of weight carried in the word. Black friends who use it as a term of endearment do so because they have just as much love placed in their friends.

There's a lot more to this, and I suggest you be careful of what you say before you know exactly what your saying entails.

I find it disturbing that you say "Nigga is NOT an offensive slur" as an absolute statement.

 

Literally NO ONE is going to get offended by people saying it, so why punish people for it????? I find this to be

a breach of free speech. When people are intending to create hate-speech for people of color they just

say Nigger, plain and simple.

So "literally no one" is going to get offended by people insulting each other with racial slurs? Do you realize how contradictory you're being?!

 

A breech of free speech because you can't use racial slurs while on xG servers? That's an exaggeration. No one cares if you call your friends Nigga, just keep it between you and your friends and don't take it to our public servers. Furthermore, unless YOU were using the term in an endearing way (which you weren't) on the servers, then your point is moot, as you had to be using it as a nickname for someone, or in an offensive way.

 

Again, saying people who intend to create hate-seech simply use "Nigger" as opposed to "Nigga" is a moot point, because "Nigga" is short for "Nigger"!

 

It's just wrong and unfair to ban words like this because it just gives them

more notoriety for absolutely no reason. You can do a simple fucking google search and learn that Nigga

is used in a positive way unlike Nigger. I understand that the word has evil roots but that's really no excuse.

 

Eh, you bring up a good point here. But we can either promote and allow people to call each other whatever they want, or discourage the use of these words. We either give "words like this" no meaning due to overuse, and new curse words are created in their place, or we encourage players to respect each other. I think I'd chose the latter for the future of xG.

 

This is just an example of blatant hypocrisy employed by xG Staff, for example I get made fun of all the time

on xG for being a "girl gamer xdddd make me a sammich lmaooo xdd" but do you see me cry about it to admins?

No. Because I'm not a fucking pussy ass bitch, Admins don't even do anything about it when that happens.

 

I appreciate that you don't complain about every little thing which gets thrown your way, but honestly, the example you described is a lot closer to teasing then demeaning you by your race. I'll to the first to admit it's borderline sexist, but that's still no excuse to use racial slurs.

 

xG claims to be a "safe space" but it really is not. There's talk of traps all the time which is considered a slur by some

transgender people, things like lolis are encouraged by titles like "Loli" or "Loli scout legionaire" and some people even

have sprays of it, which is sexualizing children which is wrong, and illegal and people like Rub1dium get hunted down

through facebook by an absolute creep.What's with all the double standards??????

 

I've never heard someone make fun of trans people on xG. Maybe I've just not been online at the right time, but if it's disrespectful to the extreme you describe, you could've used !calladmin, you know.

Apparently you didn't know, but child-porn sprays of any kind were recently cracked down upon, hard.

xG isn't perfect, but at least we're constantly improving.

 

Really xG staff needs to either get more consistent with their policies or just get rid of punishment for slurs altogether

because all you are doing by making slurs this big bad thing is giving the words more power and cultivating absolute SJW

pussies who get triggered at any sort of slur.

 

Oh I agree rules should be made more consistent, which is why I spent two days writing a thread suggesting mainly revisions to make all of our rule lists more consistent. Again, we're constantly improving.

Like I said earlier, it's a complex issue and while it's very debatable, but I think nothing good can come out of allowing people to demean and disrespect each other freely.

 

I've seen some extremely nasty shit on the internet, people who talk like absolute assholes and will do anything to ruin your day and put you down. I think we've all seen that. But are we going to do something about it? At least xG is, even if we're a little inconsistent at times.

 

Oh, and finally, I appreciate you taking this the the forums, even if you're upset as you wrote it. Because with your help, we can continue our constant improvement. ;)

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You have a few good points, but a few more dumb ones, and here's why.

 

 

Yeah it actually is, Nigga is slang for Nigger, which is an offensive term which has been used to insult blacks every since America's slave days.

There's a lot of weight carried in the word. Black friends who use it as a term of endearment do so because they have just as much love placed in their friends.

There's a lot more to this, and I suggest you be careful of what you say before you know exactly what your saying entails.

I find it disturbing that you say "Nigga is NOT an offensive slur" as an absolute statement.

 

 

So "literally no one" is going to get offended by people insulting each other with racial slurs? Do you realize how contradictory you're being?!

 

A breech of free speech because you can't use racial slurs while on xG servers? That's an exaggeration. No one cares if you call your friends Nigga, just keep it between you and your friends and don't take it to our public servers. Furthermore, unless YOU were using the term in an endearing way (which you weren't) on the servers, then your point is moot, as you had to be using it as a nickname for someone, or in an offensive way.

 

Again, saying people who intend to create hate-seech simply use "Nigger" as opposed to "Nigga" is a moot point, because "Nigga" is short for "Nigger"!

 

 

 

Eh, you bring up a good point here. But we can either promote and allow people to call each other whatever they want, or discourage the use of these words. We either give "words like this" no meaning due to overuse, and new curse words are created in their place, or we encourage players to respect each other. I think I'd chose the latter for the future of xG.

 

 

 

I appreciate that you don't complain about every little thing which gets thrown your way, but honestly, the example you described is a lot closer to teasing then demeaning you by your race. I'll to the first to admit it's borderline sexist, but that's still no excuse to use racial slurs.

 

 

 

I've never heard someone make fun of trans people on xG. Maybe I've just not been online at the right time, but if it's disrespectful to the extreme you describe, you could've used !calladmin, you know.

Apparently you didn't know, but child-porn sprays of any kind were recently cracked down upon, hard.

xG isn't perfect, but at least we're constantly improving.

 

 

 

Oh I agree rules should be made more consistent, which is why I spent two days writing a thread suggesting mainly revisions to make all of our rule lists more consistent. Again, we're constantly improving.

Like I said earlier, it's a complex issue and while it's very debatable, but I think nothing good can come out of allowing people to demean and disrespect each other freely.

 

I've seen some extremely nasty shit on the internet, people who talk like absolute assholes and will do anything to ruin your day and put you down. I think we've all seen that. But are we going to do something about it? At least xG is, even if we're a little inconsistent at times.

 

Oh, and finally, I appreciate you taking this the the forums, even if you're upset as you wrote it. Because with your help, we can continue our constant improvement. ;)

Thanks for the informed reply

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