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Yeah, but some consider that soon, also idk what you meant by banned on CS GO, i thought you got unbanned from both for CT, but you just werent allowed to go to it on CSS

I +1 this, because some of you may say "too soon", but papichulo was unbanned not longer after what happened with him massing, their situation is pretty much similar, neither left the server. So I +1 this on fairness, and opinion since i think hes not a bad CT, he just planned on playing CS GO instead of CSS.

@@Gkoo Was doing the orders, and got there at the same time as other Ts

Gkoo, i hadn't mentioned that on those posts, so dont bother, unless you still want to, basically i slayed a guy for freeshooting me when i was doing orders, then john slayed me, then we argued about freeshooting being allowed if for 1 T blah blah blah and so on.

@@Gkoo i did make my own decision, i slayed the CT then John slayed me.

@@serbiansnaga Want your opinion to pretty much sum this up, and give an overall verdict, on whether this is allowed or not, since @@John said it is.

@@diabeetus THANK YOU, i did mean to base it off of what happened to me, but i did say "Lets say yadda yadda yadda happened". @@John isnt replying to this anymore anyways, maybe he found that he is wrong, and that odds are against him.

@@Hidingmaster , If a T is taking a route that is faster/just as fast, it isnt delaying, and detouring is like if warden says bumrush straight to Couch game on Avalanche, and you decide to run to the left a little bit toward the buttons of couch game and then go back to the couches, so detouring is basically delaying in another way, just with going towards another place.

@@Gkoo @@PiNoYPsYcHo too, john, just because darkwolf is your friend who prob got you DM doesnt mean hes the only one you tag

@@DarkWolf6052 I know ive seen you slay people for purposely freeshooting, so dont go disagreeing because john is your friend

I see his side of it, he said the CT though i was delaying,and shot me, but if you take a way to get to a place that is faster/just as fast to get there, it is NOT delaying, since in no ways is it slowing you down.I know what delaying is, i understand how it works and that its killable, as hidingmaster said, "Its common sense" that you can slay for freeshooting, its pretty much always been that way, maybe some admins/mods are more lenient on it, as some admins wont slay if its an "accidental" bait, it depends on the mods/admins leniency on something like this, where one mod/admin only slays for one freeshot, others may slay for mass freeshooting, either way its not allowed, and either way its still freeshooting.

Im fine with not slaying for an accidental freeshot (unless it hits a stack and 20 ts start complaining about it)

@@John You already proved yourself wrong with the matsi freekill incident, and as far as i saw it said "action will be taken", maybe there was some taken, but if so i didnt see any, you already messed up once, and how you got DM i dont know, (well actually i do, its because you have friends that favoritize) also you never answered how it wasnt intentional

Also @@Kirito and @@MegaRobin, and i believe @@Jordozombie agreed (in-game) that freeshooting is now allowed

@@Hidingmaster I wouldn't complain if it was a good DM, if i had proof he did shit i would request a demote (his friends would -1 it, so why bother anyways?)

@@John Accidental means misclck/ shooting someone else and it hit me, he intended to shoot me

Also ill find in chat where you said "Im a DM, youre an admin"

(ADMINS) xG:DM | Joseph Stalin: I'm a DM you're an admin.

No aaron, He didnt accidentally do it, he looked at me and shot me

@@John Also, Quoting what you said, "Freeshooting isnt in motd so its fine", then yet you say 2 or more is a slay, so you just counteracted what you already has said before.

Also if i see CTs freeshoot ts, i slay them lol, unless its an accident and they only hit like 1

Might as well say this, @@ItsAaron you shouldnt hump John's dick because hes a DM, which you are clearly doing. You are going by what John says because even as he himself said, "Im a DM, you're an admin" meaning what he says goes, but if he says mass freekilling is allowed, well since hes a DM does that mean it is?

@@SonicRainbow Mean to put "its not allowed"

"Thought"

Orange, "from what you heard", i took the fastest route to get there, and he shot me, making it intentional.

@@John "What he though was a valid reason" K. he thought that, it wasnt.

@@ItsAaron I was following orders

Ok, so lets start with a scenario.

You're a T, you are following orders and a CT purposely shoots you, is that slayable?

@@John says no

@@ItsAaron says no

Yet its intentional freeshooting, and they claim its not in theMOTD, so from now on guise letz n0t slay freekillerz kk guize

@@MineCrack IDK if gkoo was around with Jihad(He pretty muched played his part as a Div and a DM, he knew how to handle us well).

3 has pretty much been perm for a long time, though i do +1 the perm for Mass freekilling be moved up to 4 or 5, and 3 kills being a few months or two CT ban( unless disconnecting, then a month or two server ban) BUT people who massed before this for 3 kills should stay permed.

BUT i do -1 the fact that we shouldnt be any more lenient than we are, if you look at the majority of people we permed, they all deserved it, and after they were unbanned (if they were) then they ended up doing stuff again (The BEST example i can give is NeteX).

someone rape me

Sure thing :3

@@Warriorsfury That was from a mass freekill post, when a staff member mass smites people go on and on about it Those are two different things that should have two different punishments. On another note, I +1 for the same ban length as sinly

@@Forest My name it white text please Lol

@@Warriorsfury Im not going to find what thread/post it was in, but whe you said you changed the "10 steps 10 seconds rule"(what it now is) you CLEARLY said "because its easier for me to remember"

@@Link! None of that was meant to offend you, and i didnt mean any of it in a disrespectful way, I had only gone with what i heard off of other members, so sorry if i was wrong. I was pretty much as you said, speaking out of my ass :/

BUT i do stick with the fact xG runs off of favoritism, and that cant be denied.

@@Warriorsfury Ok if it was him, if hes going through all this trouble to get unbanned, and he does it again, WE BAN HIM AGAIN, and make it with no appeal, honestly if he massed again he'd ruin one round of someone playing jailbreak.

@@Chrono idk what you meant by linking me to that post, and im not reading all 6 pages to find out :/

@@Hidingmaster If they DC and dont rejoin, we cant CT ban them, the CT ban option only works if they are in-game. Also mass freeshooting happens alot, with an accidental shot into stack etc., So that shouldnt be a month, if intentional maybe a week CT ban if you look at it as attempted massing.

Mass freekill with DC should still be perm, or atleast longer than a few months, because if they leave they are avoiding a ban, and probally don't plan on playing anymore anyways. i.e Papi and Minecrack stayed after they massed so it wasn't a perm server ban, and only a CT ban

In my opinion, we need something to completely finalize all of this, @autumn should make a list of the punishable actions, if they can be appealed, and how long after them happening do they get to appeal it.

I.E.-

Action: DDOS PunishmentTime: Permanent CanBeAppealed?: No (If it could be appealed, a time for how long after it can be should be here)

After a post like the format above is made with all of the punishments etc. (should be sticky'd in ban protest) ALL bans will be final, even if they had previously done it before the post(unless it was something not worthy of a permaban)

Welcome to xG! I remember you on both names. Have fun!

+1, even though half of you might not know how much older of a player he is, hes been playing xG 1 to 2 years already, his old name was Broseph Stalin. Hes a mature player, ran a division, has few bans. Hes a fun person to play with also.

@@Warriorsfury Lets say he DID intentionally do it, without you getting proof of having someone else do it. People have been unbanned from permanent server bans for stuff 10 times worse than this. Yet lets say the person server banned was a friend etc., you would likely +1 them (That is how xG runs nowadays, It thrives off of favoritism, and the most that was done about it ever was removing aegean,even though i do like aegean, he did do that shit). Laith is a good guy, played for awhile, rarely ever broke rules or anything.