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Division: Team Fortress 2 Staff Name: Kypari Staff's Steam ID: irrelevant Evidence: Criticism: Let It Flow | Page 3 | Xeno Gamers all posts and comments by him here: Asock - Forum | Xeno Gamers Further Information: The way I've always seen it is that when 2 people decide to argue, you stop the argument if possible. And to do that, you have to stop both, if you hold one back then the other is just gonna jump on the chained person. This idea has held true on the forums as well in many a situation before; when 2 individuals or parties are fighting an aggressive "shitstorm" I have always lived under the philosophy of either they both get banned equally, or neither gets banned and they apologize to each other and A) ignore each other or B) learn to play nice. It's a pretty sound strategy, because if they get into heated arguments like that, they are either people you really don't want around, because of their negative "toxic" attitudes. Now you may be saying "but Asock (rabid) is le epic troller." or "kypari is only offending this time" but you're only partly right, on both. Rabid has toned down. If anyone had seen the shit he used to do on the daily back in the old days, you would never want to be here. It also is not kypari's first offense. He also isn't the victim in this case; neither is Tekage. However there is a reason tekage isn't who this is about. That's because he handled this in a semi-respectable manner, didn't talk too much shit, and also didn't try to start the shit with rabid in the first place. Now you tell me. Is someone with this attitude worthy of being a staff member? Let alone even a member? Why isn't he banned for the same bming rabid was giving off? Popcorn and shit is welcome, but keep it to your self. I will personally be monitoring this thread to clean it of shit, don't think you will get away with anything.

Sudoku is the proper spelling of the popular japanese puzzle game. sedoku is not a world in any language. Seppuku is the ancient samurai tradition of slicing ones stomach open and removing your own guts. On the internet, Sudoku is someone telling you to commit seppuku while also mocking you by calling you stupid by spelling it differently.

@Nomulous is toxic, but because i am now saying this is fact instead of opinion, it may not be disputed any longer, anyone to say he is not toxic will be banned for a year. (note: after you read this nomulous go ahead and delete it and please edit that shit-stain off of the post, it makes you look like a fascist prick which is the opposite of helping in reform) second note: if you want to ban me for telling it how it is, go for it, proves the points i've been making here and in the criticism thread.

so you agree with double jeopardy what about the fact this is all retroactive bans? as far as bias goes, dethman is known to have beef with iggy (see threads at bottom) by going out of his way to find things he thinks are wrong (remember the definition of trolling being going out of your way to maliciously do something to someone?) with iggy and use them against him. Nomulous in general is semi-distant with the community and in previous issues he has tended to take the side of the majority here, however i haven't seen the actual convos, i'm buttuming he did that here. Moosty is probably the one closest to friendly they have there being relatively not mad at the light bm given in previous instances. CLs are CLs. some of you stick to the majority opinion (see recent shit storms and your action, pleasing the masses is how it looks on the outside instead of pleasing both sides by getting the bad on both for the most part) Silence has no clue about the community. kbraszz has been known to take a similar opinion to bach who has been known to not like vector much. metalslug (scoot?) is one of the staff that was "trolled by vector". ohstopyou also has been known to be anti-them in recent threads shitstorms/"talk about who you don't like while they take it because we are the le mass so we cant get banned if we just call everything they do against us trolling/disrespect even if we do it to them" threads. pretty sure that covers most people when it comes to bias towards the "tier 1 aka perm on sight" people btw, here are the most recent member protests/ban requests on them which all already had some form of closure whether it be an action taken on them or a lack of action based on the decision that no punishment was necessary. Iggy Iggs | Xeno Gamers [xg:a] Vector | Xeno Gamers take a look at the dates on this and the next one, which are the most recent for vector they are almost a year ago. there has been no significant issue since, granted he isn't worthy of his admin back yet, he isn't what should reasonably be deemed a problem worthy of a ban imo [xg:a] Vector - Team Fortress 2 | Xeno Gamers added note, this is the same idea as my comment over on the end result of the iggy thread.

still only highlighting the 1 part that semi-directly involves you. ;) atleast i can count on one of the CLs to be consistent. Go back to the parts about double jeopardy, retroactive bans, and that according to my trusted anonymous vigilante source, the involved parties in the convo were "CLs, Nomulous, TF2 DMs/DLs, and Dethman" which most notably comprises people who don't play tf2 much but have been known to have some issues with people (vector, iggy) in a one on one state, and TF2 staff that get "trolled by vector all the time" please show me how there is no bias at all in the party that was discussing banning him along with others who lightly bm compared to what you make it out to be. Note: jurors are cross-interviewed, just check out the people you want to give an un-biased opinion first. go to sources outside the immediate confines of xG, ask old co leaders to give some god damn god opinions instead of people that are salty over some bm they get when another feels they could do the job better. Note2: this is an open criticism thread, dont take it like a personal attack and get defensive when i state CLs in general are going about something wrong IMO instead look at it and give feedback on all the points

Steam Workshop Now Supporting Paid Creations essentially a workshop creator can mark their content for purchase instead of freely available, only on games enabled (currently only skyrim) i think it should just be a donate button, if you like it donate so the guy can make more cool shit. it should be a visible thing what they are donating for so they know what type of stuff does better instead of this pay2hf

I publicly do not support any of those bans in "toxicity" Before the weeaboos and furries and bronies and mexicans get at me for again stating my disapproval let it be known it is not just because I am chill with vector I protest his ban. Hell other than the recent perm you gave him, I probably have the most ban time given out vs. him. I do not support any of the bans, here is my reason. they are all retroactive bans (taken from things that have happened much in the past.) they are all double jeopardy bans (they are banned now for things they were previously tried for, and either acquitted or banned at their individual times) none of them compare to other trolls (no major offense towards rabid) but people like rabid and neteX were much worse than any of them ever could dream of. you know what happened to neteX? he got banned from servers and forums. it wasn't until he DoS'd xg that he got teamspeak banned. why are these people banned on TS? it's meant as a public grounds for all people to just talk and relax, very rarely is anyone ever banned on there. it's saved for special offenders (cont.) They aren't special offenders, they are light BMers. they dont actually troll (by definition target a person or group and go out of their way to harass them.) they have some salty attitudes and get angry quick, not actually troll. they don't do anything worthy of real bans especially from TS. the only real ban on the list i saw was @Bach for the hacking thing, while i disagree that he wasn't banned based on our rules that he shouldn't have, i see the good intention behind it. (note: batman has good intentions about being a vigilante but the police hunted him/technically are supposed to arrest him even in current comics where he works with commisioner gordon; they don't because he helps a lot) the "higher ups" involved in the conversation already have very very strong biased opinions towards the individuals in question. there was no way in hell you were going to receive a fair punishment when they are your only source of discussion. I feel as if the CL system was a good idea, take individuals from higher ups in different divisions, mix them together and get differing opinions, require votes etc. however when you take the opinions of only a select sample that all share common interest/ground, it will be very very very very very very very very very biased when situations like that arise, you should be looking to a real jury. and outside source of opinion who is not effected by it (i.e. if you want to "discuss" perming someone from TF2 because he BMs tf2 staff, you should look to individuals from CS:S CS:GO etc. who don't give a rats ass about tf2 to look over any real evidence instead of testimonials/opinions and then take action on a real jury and their thoughts) that's my thoughts on the recent development, i tried talking to a couple CLs earlier, and they thought i was saying bans are for pussies blah blah blah, instead of listening.

hory sheet. i thought you were serious, now i know... you really just want that blood elf sexRP

what he said, if you ever want to perm someone for hacking, not only do you need other mods/admins to double check, someone has to take a demo. there is no feasible way to prove that I don't have an aimbot. but there is a very simple way to prove that I do, if you record a demo. also, innocent until proven guilty in here, so if you have no demo other than someone (even other mods/admins) saying he used aimbots, this permaban is invalid [uSERGROUP=29]@Division Manager[/uSERGROUP] [uSERGROUP=5]@Division Leader[/uSERGROUP] [uSERGROUP=23]@Community Leader[/uSERGROUP]

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only scummer play horde. but i guess i can be in, always meant to finish leveling some of my hordies. after i finish my sham for grants server.

why are they forum banned for a year? was it really the dog pics? if so nobody learned a lesson in how to ban properly from my banning spree

clearly you still don't get them.

Rules are rules no matter why you break them. Even if you think you are helping, if you break rules, you should expect the punishment they deem. People should know what a mass freekill looks like. it's obvious. Hacking is semi-obvious too, and if not 100% there are others very well known to what hacks look like and/or youtube videos of hacks. Please do not break a rule (especially hacking) to "teach others what it looks like." It makes it look like people can get away with whatever if we let you off the hook for it, no matter your previous standing or attitude on life or religious standing. @Bach @tf2 @Tsuchikure [uSERGROUP=23]@Community Leader[/uSERGROUP]

come over here baby gurl and i sign you in, and also get you shit faced.

@Tsuchikure got my answer mostly right, the real super secret project is going to be done (soon^tm) and myself working basically full time and moving up in the kitchen is sucking most of my hours of the day away my few days off is out with le gf or playing a simple online game with friends (gta league arma wow) or now to be filled with copious amounts of alcohol. also, niggers.

warriorsfurry and barm only real subs, gg kiddos.

Save 25% on I am Bread on Steam 2 copies going out, same deal as before, write a story about @Forest fires. keep it classy xg (do your own searching for the previous threads to find full rules, anything not following them is disqualified. legitimate judging will occur.)

played alpha and beta and was a sub for first 6 months of game, can honestly say it went pretty far down the toilet even before it went f2p. it had promise and hope, then the flush of the water came. rip.

it really makes no difference, tbh. the games we play here are all M rated games (minecraft is super questionable on rating as it is a sandbox) so in a legal speaking nobody under 17 should be playing anyway (obviously we know 10 year olds play M rated games and watch R movies) and in the end there will either be circle jerk +1 cool guy or -1 "immature" on people you like or dont like anyway. and someone is going to take those as OK vouches anyway and they get in. the age change is just the start of member submission reform, prepare your anus kiddos.

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rip hub 2012-2011*

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