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Ugh. I can't "ugh" enough at all of this. I understand that passions are high and people are mad. I get that. It happens quite often. But it gives no excuse to bring the argument to petty insults and nasty posts. I like to think that we as a clan are above such immaturity, but when it happens, I begin to have my doubts. I get it. I understand. Whyte is upset because of H0b0's hostility towards Hachi and Dethman. H0b0 is upset because he feels he was wronged in Jailbreak, and his encounters with those involved led to sensitive personal information about him being exposed, which he clearly did not want to be made public knowledge. What's worse is that AFTER this information was made known, some, (not all) of our members who CLEARLY KNOW BETTER begin to harass and insult him because of his lifestyle. This is completely unacceptable. As someone who heavily supports the LGBTQ movement, this REALLY hurts my heart to see happen in the clan that I call family. I understand that there were threats made. I understand that there were hostile things said, but, as I said above, that in no way gives ANYONE the right to be so cruel and malign. If this didn't end so horribly for H0b0, I wouldn't have been surprised to see an abuse thread made after these events. Nobody wins here. Absolutely nobody. Sure, H0b0 gets banned based on the threats he made towards other staff, but xG is successful in showing its ass when it went to handle the situation. I'm aware that those who instigated were dealt with, but come on. It NEVER should have came to that. I'm not advocating that H0b0 acted in the right, because there were things said that clearly shouldn't have been said. But I AM advocating that we as a clan SERIOUSLY need to reevaluate how we handle these kinds of situations. It goes much farther than just the individuals who were directly involved. If you check the shoutbox, the same posts persisted LONG after the thread was closed, and I'm sure people were still chuckling about it even more after. But don't get me wrong. I'm not frowning at all of you. I do want to take a moment and thank those who were in charge of damage control for acting accordingly. You guys did awesome at making sure this didn't get blown completely out of proportion. Thank you so much for that, at least. I implore you guys to handle things better in the future, because this was just appalling to read through. I know we push the envelope a lot, but when it comes to a serious issue, we need to learn to straighten the fuck up and handle things in a much more professional manner. End rant. I'm off to bed. tl;dr Shit went sour and Scoots doesn't like how people acted after the fact, on BOTH sides.

All my personal bias about h0b0 aside. What some of you guys did was %100 wrong. You exploited and exposed a secret about someone that he did not want anyone else to know. You harassed him for it and that is extremely immature of you. I might not have the best view but just because you don't like him or what he is does not mean you should make fun of him. Scootaloo put most of what i want to say on here already. You guys really should feel ashamed.

We HAD THIS once. It got SO BORING after the third time on each track.

I understand. All i wanted to point out was that it was likely a very beneficial thing to do at the moment, and will most likely never happen again. That's why i wanted you to think twice about giving him a permanent ban, and how people would react to that.

Division: Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name: p0s3s3dh0b0#mute Steam ID: Steam Community :: p0s3s3dh0b0#mute Information: It seems some xG people lied about what i said and I went to Rhodendron to ask him why and we cleared some stuff up. logs of me and whytes chat : [MEDIA=pastebin]V7rPbA16[/MEDIA] it seems that whyte put words into my mouth. I am really confused at this whole situation so i feel i should be unbanned because i was banned for false reasons.

With all of the shit that has been going on, I feel as if this clan has become worse since i joined. I don't know if i can really take this anymore. I am leaving the clan, i will not come back this time. Yes this means my Division Leader status is gone and stepping down in tf2. I will miss most of you, I don't really know most of the new members since September. Adios guys and i hope you have a good life and time in the clan. Maybe i will comeback if it is fixed Fuck no i am not leaving, i am going to be inactive for the next week due to the mstep testing. cya soon. Tagging, @Ohstopyou @BelloWaldi @Rhododendron @kbraszzz @Rejects @metalslug53 @Moosty @Kyoko @Hachi

Why was he banned already if this hasn't been resolved?

Yes, it is. Bach will more than likely have to answer for his actions in that thread. The creation of a new account, the insults, etc etc. But, the actions specifically addressed in this thread are the accusations of the use of hacks. The only time I've known Bach to use a hack was under my supervision. As I said before, I'll more than happily support any punishment given granted that evidence of these claims is brought forward.

Even if this ban is successful, Bach said he has a Mona Pizza video ready to go. He's been perm'd from the TF2 servers and he hasn't gone back with a different account since. I don't see the problem if he stopped causing it. Basically, I just don't see the point. If we do attempt the ban, he'll get unbanned anyways.

Now, he did use the alt-account and used aimbot on our servers. But....he used to only show scootaloo what it would look like on dodgeball. I dont think it is that bad, plus it was only with xG members on teamspeak at the time on the server and we where to perm it after he was done. i will stay neutral for now.

Sadly honestly I really wanna -1 because of all the begging for vouches you did I'm going to stay neutral but people will vouch you if they want too.... NUETRAL :)

If Mario Kart had no items and if you got in the lead you stayed in the lead because everyone goes the same damn speed. That's TF2kart.

I say go with the hidden. No other servers have it, it is rated among the top plugins by youtubers and it is constant fun.

@metalslug53 Theres a lot of invalid vouching, scootie. I think we need them changed before you can say he has his 24 hours...

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-1 called me a bitch in the age thingy. i take great offense to this. i will now cry and go blaze it while heiling Hitler all day. A fu/m8 M 420/:shrekd::afro::shrekd:

Kinda sounds like all Tf2 Xeno Gamer servers.

no

thats the 100% god dam truth, believe it or not.

Division: Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name: Bach Offender's Steam ID: Doesn't matter right now Rules Broken: Aimbot on an alt account Evidence: Gyazo - 5c6d5f6289ac8d37605f9d2ec98662e1.png Last night, it was reported (via an anonymous vigilante) that Bach uses an alt account for aimbotting. Essentially, the purpose of this thread is to discuss whether or not his main account should be banned (hint: it should, and there's a 1000% chance that it will), and to get Bach's input/response. If any of you turds attempt to turn this thread into a poop-storm (ex: the bobbywow ban protest) your posts will be deleted and/or you will be banned on the forums. @Bach @ThePenguin @DrLee @Hidingmaster @kbraszzz @Moosty @metalslug53 @Nomulous @Rhododendron @Bleed (the special snowflake of my heart)