Chrono

OK. let's get started.
 
First and foremost, I do not condone this thread at all. My major reason for that is that almost every single person posting in here giving a +1 has instigated so many different issues with matsi and in fact almost all the instances you use as proof (not counting the countdown thread by vector) are all started by you guys posting something derogatory, demeaning, rude, and just plain un-necessary towards matsi. Exhibit A:
 
Phoenix made a moderator submission, matsi simply posted a quote of the appropriately deemed requirements to create one and said that it should be closed due to not meeting the requirements, instantly owl, vector, and various other staff members of CS:GO posted rude and hateful things basically telling matsi to fuck off. Meanwhile you turn around to Diversion's mod submission and owl posts that and demands a close and literally throws a hissy fit about when I re-open it even going to the point of insulting my ability as a DM.
 
Secondly, just going to get this out of the way before I forget it, but this is a semi-unrelated note: Snackbar, you're a great guy and all but you need to chill the fuck out. You're doing great trying to help and all and it really is appreciated by me, but you're taking things too fast. You banned him on teamspeak "for shits and giggles all in good fun" you don't do that to someone unless you are good friends with them. You push all these rule changes that are discussed by you and 2 others that agree with you at 3am in teamspeak, with no regard for a discussion prior to making it official without messaging the rest of the higher ups in the division as well as those rules push away from the unified set of rules that we tried very hard to make happen. yes game specific rules will be division specific but now you are making a steam name global rule a division specific thing, going so far as to try and control what people make their steam name "must be a name you are easily recognized as such as your forum name or a name you frequently use" if I decide I wanted to go by AlphaOmega tonight nobody would recognize me at first, as well as if asked I would present my forum name. Next, there is a blatant exclusion of communication the very opposite is happening in regards to that which @Rhododendron was all for trying to eliminate and then he too becomes guilty of his old habit of talking to one person about something and making a change: I have not once been messaged by snackbar with who he wants to promote/demote since he was given the opportunity as DM, nor has he responded to my private message I made with him and bleed specifically for discussing between us promo demo and other future changes we would be considering doing (obviously they would then be brought into a discussion on the csgo forums). even now going so far as to post promo/demo at 3am because he wants to do it when it is a CL job, and he creates his own promo/demo without consult. the reason it is a CL job is because they can then cross check it. when you post it, there is no going back on it. while I agree the whole set of CS:GO staff right now is good at their job, I can tell you for a god damn fact a couple people got promoted because they are your friends while you wouldnt consider some others because you aren't friends and always talking even though they are just as deserving of staff.
 
Third, there was supposedly a discussion between tf2 higher ups, csgo higher ups, and silence. I was not included so it clearly did not include all csgo higher ups, bleed probably wasnt, and since when do we banish someone from a division? no. if you really dont like the guy, just fucking ignore him.
 
Beastiality is not a federal law, it may be a state law, but we have to go by federal since that is the do all tell all for anyone in the US as a US based community if you want to bring "felonies" into it. tarin sexually idolized and sent dick pics to a 14 year old boy which has been presented proof of, that is a federal felony. Beastiality is not a felony according to federal law, and as such could not be used. infact if you wanted to use some state laws, there are some that limit what you can and cannot have sex with, as stated by matsi florida it has to be bigger than a porcupine. No he should not be saying these things in public but it is his life and his sexual interests, they dont do anything to you, I could see a abuse report for conduct unbecoming of a staff member as that is immature and not the "better" thing to be doing, and I would gladly give a + 1 to that, but a removal of member? no. wanting him to be permanently banned? absolutely not.
 
Don't get me wrong, I am not friends with the guy, even if I was like with the vector case, I fought for iggy too and I am not afraid to turn around and ban a friend when they fuck up. See: rabid and vector having numerous bans from me. forum and game and teamspeak. But if you want to do something to this scale then there better be a legitimate reason, which is why when snackbar said he was thinking about posting one I told him I would give it a - 1 and that I believed it would be incorrect to post in the first place for some of the reasons listed above. after you get time to read over this and simmer, I will post a follow up to any questions/legitimate posts in response to this.
 
I will also be closing the "Companion Thread" as this is not a "majority vote" kind of thing, this is a CL decision and they will make it by going over all the statements and evidence provided in the thread, I will not be deleting that thread like I should until after the resolution of this issue is met, If you cannot give a reason to your vouch, then you shouldn't be posting it anyway, as well as periodically as I fade in and out of being home because of my life and shit, I will be going through this and deleting useless/stupid posts. please refrain from posting multiple times because you are debating with multiple people as well as try to be as clear as possible in your posts.
 
just to re-iterate, snackbar you need to chill out a bit and take a step back. everyone posting needs to make legitimate posts legitimately debating and give a reason behind a vouch. if you want to use laws as a form of back up, use federal and not state laws. and everyone should probably take a day away from this thread before they post anything else to give time for their minds to settle, psychologically you guys are too into the hype of a new thread getting so big and everyone should chill out.

OK. let's get started.
 
First and foremost, I do not condone this thread at all. My major reason for that is that almost every single person posting in here giving a +1 has instigated so many different issues with matsi and in fact almost all the instances you use as proof (not counting the countdown thread by vector) are all started by you guys posting something derogatory, demeaning, rude, and just plain un-necessary towards matsi. Exhibit A:
 
Phoenix made a moderator submission, matsi simply posted a quote of the appropriately deemed requirements to create one and said that it should be closed due to not meeting the requirements, instantly owl, vector, and various other staff members of CS:GO posted rude and hateful things basically telling matsi to fuck off. Meanwhile you turn around to Diversion's mod submission and owl posts that and demands a close and literally throws a hissy fit about when I re-open it even going to the point of insulting my ability as a DM.
 
Secondly, just going to get this out of the way before I forget it, but this is a semi-unrelated note: Snackbar, you're a great guy and all but you need to chill the fuck out. You're doing great trying to help and all and it really is appreciated by me, but you're taking things too fast. You banned him on teamspeak "for shits and giggles all in good fun" you don't do that to someone unless you are good friends with them. You push all these rule changes that are discussed by you and 2 others that agree with you at 3am in teamspeak, with no regard for a discussion prior to making it official without messaging the rest of the higher ups in the division as well as those rules push away from the unified set of rules that we tried very hard to make happen. yes game specific rules will be division specific but now you are making a steam name global rule a division specific thing, going so far as to try and control what people make their steam name "must be a name you are easily recognized as such as your forum name or a name you frequently use" if I decide I wanted to go by AlphaOmega tonight nobody would recognize me at first, as well as if asked I would present my forum name. Next, there is a blatant exclusion of communication the very opposite is happening in regards to that which @Rhododendron was all for trying to eliminate and then he too becomes guilty of his old habit of talking to one person about something and making a change: I have not once been messaged by snackbar with who he wants to promote/demote since he was given the opportunity as DM, nor has he responded to my private message I made with him and bleed specifically for discussing between us promo demo and other future changes we would be considering doing (obviously they would then be brought into a discussion on the csgo forums). even now going so far as to post promo/demo at 3am because he wants to do it when it is a CL job, and he creates his own promo/demo without consult. the reason it is a CL job is because they can then cross check it. when you post it, there is no going back on it. while I agree the whole set of CS:GO staff right now is good at their job, I can tell you for a god damn fact a couple people got promoted because they are your friends while you wouldnt consider some others because you aren't friends and always talking even though they are just as deserving of staff.
 
Third, there was supposedly a discussion between tf2 higher ups, csgo higher ups, and silence. I was not included so it clearly did not include all csgo higher ups, bleed probably wasnt, and since when do we banish someone from a division? no. if you really dont like the guy, just fucking ignore him.
 
Beastiality is not a federal law, it may be a state law, but we have to go by federal since that is the do all tell all for anyone in the US as a US based community if you want to bring "felonies" into it. tarin sexually idolized and sent dick pics to a 14 year old boy which has been presented proof of, that is a federal felony. Beastiality is not a felony according to federal law, and as such could not be used. infact if you wanted to use some state laws, there are some that limit what you can and cannot have sex with, as stated by matsi florida it has to be bigger than a porcupine. No he should not be saying these things in public but it is his life and his sexual interests, they dont do anything to you, I could see a abuse report for conduct unbecoming of a staff member as that is immature and not the "better" thing to be doing, and I would gladly give a + 1 to that, but a removal of member? no. wanting him to be permanently banned? absolutely not.
 
Don't get me wrong, I am not friends with the guy, even if I was like with the vector case, I fought for iggy too and I am not afraid to turn around and ban a friend when they fuck up. See: rabid and vector having numerous bans from me. forum and game and teamspeak. But if you want to do something to this scale then there better be a legitimate reason, which is why when snackbar said he was thinking about posting one I told him I would give it a - 1 and that I believed it would be incorrect to post in the first place for some of the reasons listed above. after you get time to read over this and simmer, I will post a follow up to any questions/legitimate posts in response to this.
 
I will also be closing the "Companion Thread" as this is not a "majority vote" kind of thing, this is a CL decision and they will make it by going over all the statements and evidence provided in the thread, I will not be deleting that thread like I should until after the resolution of this issue is met, If you cannot give a reason to your vouch, then you shouldn't be posting it anyway, as well as periodically as I fade in and out of being home because of my life and shit, I will be going through this and deleting useless/stupid posts. please refrain from posting multiple times because you are debating with multiple people as well as try to be as clear as possible in your posts.
 
just to re-iterate, snackbar you need to chill out a bit and take a step back. everyone posting needs to make legitimate posts legitimately debating and give a reason behind a vouch. if you want to use laws as a form of back up, use federal and not state laws. and everyone should probably take a day away from this thread before they post anything else to give time for their minds to settle, psychologically you guys are too into the hype of a new thread getting so big and everyone should chill out.

re-opening for everyone to give an opinion on this app only, if you're gonna shit talk someone who points out that phoenix did not meet the standards for an application because he is your friend, then don't you dare turn around and start putting those same things matsi said in a different app because you aren't bffs in teamspeak all day doing 10 mans with him.

-1
a: 0 less than penguin!
m: 3
 
people shouldn't be giving a +1 just because of being an old member when she doesn't even play on the servers, infact this exact same thing happened several times before, the only time she actually played on a server when she made an app was during darkrp time.

-1
a: 0 less than penguin!
m: 3
 
people shouldn't be giving a +1 just because of being an old member when she doesn't even play on the servers, infact this exact same thing happened several times before, the only time she actually played on a server when she made an app was during darkrp time.

-1
a: 0 less than penguin!
m: 3
 
people shouldn't be giving a +1 just because of being an old member when she doesn't even play on the servers, infact this exact same thing happened several times before, the only time she actually played on a server when she made an app was during darkrp time.

Unfortunately we have a 16+ age policy, and will have to decline your application. Sorry for the inconvenience

it was recently asked what the re-sub rules would be considering "forum, teamspeak, and league" divisions were
 
I gave my opinion that I don't think it's fair to rejoin under anything under 14 (csgo) which i also happened to like the fact that we previously had 1 solid re-sub of 20 unless an actual mc member.
 
so can we make a change again, and instead of making it double the div you apply for, or 20 which is too much in some cases, let's make it a nice even 15 no matter what? i think that would be the most fair and least confusing when people say "but you said it was double the division you apply for"
 
just wanted to put that in for discussion.

IMO when it comes to choosing staff, you want quality over quantity like forest said, i'd rather have 5 really good staff members that can be on when they can, as opposed to 25 really shitty staff that are always on. you need to project a positive image from the staff by having them be great people, yes while we may not always be on the servers we do also still do a lot of behind the scenes stuff. bleed for instance works on the servers whenever he has a chance via local server to test plugins that he creates from scratch/edits in major ways, but he is also in his first year of college and life is always first before xg/games. if he wants to play comp in that ~45-1:30 he has before bed time or before the meal hall opens for dinner, then by all means he should play comp especially if the server seems fine at the time.
myself I work long hours and have a very active life outside of xg, and I prefer to keep it that way, while i've made some great friends here that I can always talk to, I also have great friends in my real life that I actually see every day at work etc. all the while I spend my time taking care of the servers in ways besides policing them such as providing advice to other staff or members who have questions or concerns and browsing the forums, replying when i see a reply is necessary. while it may not seem like we do anything, you probably are only considering policing the servers to be doing something. and that in itself is your mistake

closing, try again when you aren't gonna be an ass on the server

closing, try again when you aren't gonna be an ass on the server

-1 worse than neteX and Duckii and Duckii Jr combined, and I wasn't even playing on the division it was happening in and I know about it!

-1 worse than neteX and Duckii and Duckii Jr combined, and I wasn't even playing on the division it was happening in and I know about it!

+1 was by far the best staff member of the old days, also has been very active in the return of csgo and is actively looking for ways to help improve the server

from what can be seen it was an intentional freekill and you left, before jubens could dish out the punishment that was up to his discretion to give out in that case. which led to a more severe option being chosen for punishment given for the case of leaving (avoiding) the punishment. just because you slay yourself doesn't mean freekilling is cool especially when it is intentional.
 
ATM not going to close this just so @jubens45 can confirm this is the case, however as it definitely looks to be the case, the punishment was fair and just as per his discretion, and the ban shall stay.

this is basicly what happened, you freekilled me on lr said "oops" on mic then slayed urself as next round started and left he was just gonna ct ban u for 2 hours but u left so he did a day server ban. i know we both dislike eachother i even tried to avoid talking to u for the most part yet u do this for no reason today.

+1 was by far the best staff member of the old days, also has been very active in the return of csgo and is actively looking for ways to help improve the server

+1 was by far the best staff member of the old days, also has been very active in the return of csgo and is actively looking for ways to help improve the server

-1 shit lord
+ 1 you shit stain

Or just fingerbang it out

both tangos have been permanently banned.

9:29 PM - Miya: A17 PM - DarkWolf6052: Megarobin got DM, I'm reverting the server back, he can work on all my work himself.
 
good times :')

hey man. long time no see. nice old pic, glad other people still have it @Cristo

raffle or do something rl and post pics of it, sort of like a scavenger hunt such as take pictures doing all of the following:
 
purchased a meal
cooked a meal
at a public place (amusement park, library, landmark etc.)
inside a trash can
etc