Sirflash

Not to be rude, but how do you know he hasn't change? people can change in a day, you aren't giving him a chance, he hasn't even been on so how could you know if he's changed or not. Not trying to be rude but I'm just saying

While he does seem genuinely repentant in what he has done, it doesn't excuse the fact that he had (supposedly) broken a multitude of rules. However, be that as it may, if these instances of rule breaking revolve around him being on the Blue side, then I don't see why the permanent Server Ban being lifted isn't being considered at the least while the team ban remains effective.
 
Though, even provided the aforementioned information, it may be completely irrelevant as it's somewhat apparent that the main reason he's Server banned is his attitude/behaviour, which I personally cannot vouch for or against as I am not familiar with the whole ordeal.
 
That all being said, it should be noted that the player is trying their best to plead their case here. Whether or not it's genuine is a whole other story, but it's unfair to completely rule out the possibility that he has in fact changed. The replies have been nothing but civilized and respectful from him and I don't see why he is being treated so poorly in this Ban Protest, even given his past history. Troll or not, the worst that can happen if he is unbanned (Server, not Team) is that he will harass people again, in which case all you would have to do is permanently ban him from the Servers again and be done with it once and for all. At this point, it really just looks like Staff are hung up on his past actions and refuse to give a second chance because of some personal vendetta.
 
@Sgt.Xranth while it may be similar to the Ban Protest you linked in your original post, the context of the bans are no where near the same. On one hand, the other player mass freekilled and fled (with no history [that I'm aware of] in terms of general attitude/behaviour) while you have been accused of denying LR and mass freekilling afterwards; abusing hide and seek mid round; disrespect; evading a ban with alternate accounts; and other counts of general rule breaking. Some people are more likely to receive a second chance depending on their history with Xeno Gamers, while others aren't so lucky (though I honestly don't condone unbanning those who intentionally mass freekill to begin with).
 
Mind you, this is all just personal opinion from a neutral party who has nothing to go on besides the information provided from threads that relate to this player and his ban history. I do not play in the TF2 Division, and with that being said I won't leave a vouch on whether or not the player should remain Server/Team banned. I'll only provide my input and opinion on the whole situation, as I do with other threads before this one and hope that Staff take a careful consideration to both sides without any sort of biased nature.

Ok well. This is the last thing I'm gonna say here, going off of what Spook said, no matter what Xranth could say for himself, or what I could say on behalf of Xranth, how would anyone really know if hes improved or not? Meaning exactly what Spook said, bring him back, keep him banned from ct or something, and have him on thin ice, he screws up then he's done. How else can we ACTUALLY know if hes improved or not? In this case that would seem like the best decision since hes been out of contact for so long, right? Not trying to sound snarky, just my two cents.

In my option, he should be unbanned. I really always thought badly about him and how he was a jerk until I got banned. That completely changed my opinion. I sorta felt how I think he did, but hey, I don't know what he felt. Xranth was that one guy who did something like wasd freeze crush game, which I hated, but like he even said, its a faster 9 square, which is true. I see now that I was a jerk to him and he didn't deserve it. I know how he feels when he argues with people/staff, because either something is unfair or because people/staff aren't always right. because I got perma'd then reduced to a week for arguing. People should have a right to a opinion and shouldn't get banned for what they think, I mean, with restrictions of course like you cant just scream I hate niggers repeatedly. Anyways, I just rambling now. I see that maybe he did somethings just to make people mad but from what I saw, I don't think it at all, called for a perma ban. I wanted to apologize to him about how I treated him and that he didn't deserve it.
 
Xranth should be unbanned +1

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Ok so heres how it went
So i was swing my pan as scout and i didnt even swing it 15 times and then Avenger, who was warden told me to stop pan spaming so then i swung it like once more right after he said it, not on purpose though. So then like 5 seconds later I swung it, only once. OhStopYou then shoots me so then say "swinging it once is not spamming" so then he said "you are just swinging it slower" so then i said "swinging it once is not spamming" so he then says "you are loopholeing so hard right now" which he then says "my name is OhStopYou, so just stop". I then say "so then stop complaining" which i followed up with "*Lenny*/", exactly that. Then he said "I'm done" then banned me. I do not believe that, that is a justifiable reason for a permament ban. And so do Caleb956, ^xG^ Jänal, [xG|Rep]Swag

i know im not in tf2 div but if hes been such a "problem" why does he only have one server ban? Xeno Gamers
 
 
just saying should probly ban him for ya know a day week month then go to a perm if he keeps it up not warn him once and then go right to perm ban when hes what it seems like only been muted so far as a punishment.

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Ok so heres how it went
So i was swing my pan as scout and i didnt even swing it 15 times and then Avenger, who was warden told me to stop pan spaming so then i swung it like once more right after he said it, not on purpose though. So then like 5 seconds later I swung it, only once. OhStopYou then shoots me so then say "swinging it once is not spamming" so then he said "you are just swinging it slower" so then i said "swinging it once is not spamming" so he then says "you are loopholeing so hard right now" which he then says "my name is OhStopYou, so just stop". I then say "so then stop complaining" which i followed up with "*Lenny*/", exactly that. Then he said "I'm done" then banned me. I do not believe that, that is a justifiable reason for a permament ban. And so do Caleb956, ^xG^ Jänal, [xG|Rep]Swag

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Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name:

Sirflash Steam ID:

STEAM_0:1:80090954 Ban Type:

Server Ban Information:

Ok so heres how it went
So i was swing my pan as scout and i didnt even swing it 15 times and then Avenger, who was warden told me to stop pan spaming so then i swung it like once more right after he said it, not on purpose though. So then like 5 seconds later I swung it, only once. OhStopYou then shoots me so then say "swinging it once is not spamming" so then he said "you are just swinging it slower" so then i said "swinging it once is not spamming" so he then says "you are loopholeing so hard right now" which he then says "my name is OhStopYou, so just stop". I then say "so then stop complaining" which i followed up with "*Lenny*/", exactly that. Then he said "I'm done" then banned me. I do not believe that, that is a justifiable reason for a permament ban. And so do Caleb956, ^xG^ Jänal, [xG|Rep]Swag

Division:

Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name:

Sirflash Steam ID:

STEAM_0:1:80090954 Ban Type:

Server Ban Information:

Ok so heres how it went
So i was swing my pan as scout and i didnt even swing it 15 times and then Avenger, who was warden told me to stop pan spaming so then i swung it like once more right after he said it, not on purpose though. So then like 5 seconds later I swung it, only once. OhStopYou then shoots me so then say "swinging it once is not spamming" so then he said "you are just swinging it slower" so then i said "swinging it once is not spamming" so he then says "you are loopholeing so hard right now" which he then says "my name is OhStopYou, so just stop". I then say "so then stop complaining" which i followed up with "*Lenny*/", exactly that. Then he said "I'm done" then banned me. I do not believe that, that is a justifiable reason for a permament ban. And so do Caleb956, ^xG^ Jänal, [xG|Rep]Swag

See that's what im trying to say, I do not thing that it should have went straight to a permanent ban

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Sirflash Steam ID:

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Ok so heres how it went
So i was swing my pan as scout and i didnt even swing it 15 times and then Avenger, who was warden told me to stop pan spaming so then i swung it like once more right after he said it, not on purpose though. So then like 5 seconds later I swung it, only once. OhStopYou then shoots me so then say "swinging it once is not spamming" so then he said "you are just swinging it slower" so then i said "swinging it once is not spamming" so he then says "you are loopholeing so hard right now" which he then says "my name is OhStopYou, so just stop". I then say "so then stop complaining" which i followed up with "*Lenny*/", exactly that. Then he said "I'm done" then banned me. I do not believe that, that is a justifiable reason for a permament ban. And so do Caleb956, ^xG^ Jänal, [xG|Rep]Swag

Division:

Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name:

Sirflash Steam ID:

STEAM_0:1:80090954 Ban Type:

Server Ban Information:

Ok so heres how it went
So i was swing my pan as scout and i didnt even swing it 15 times and then Avenger, who was warden told me to stop pan spaming so then i swung it like once more right after he said it, not on purpose though. So then like 5 seconds later I swung it, only once. OhStopYou then shoots me so then say "swinging it once is not spamming" so then he said "you are just swinging it slower" so then i said "swinging it once is not spamming" so he then says "you are loopholeing so hard right now" which he then says "my name is OhStopYou, so just stop". I then say "so then stop complaining" which i followed up with "*Lenny*/", exactly that. Then he said "I'm done" then banned me. I do not believe that, that is a justifiable reason for a permament ban. And so do Caleb956, ^xG^ Jänal, [xG|Rep]Swag

Division:

Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name:

Sirflash Steam ID:

STEAM_0:1:80090954 Ban Type:

Server Ban Information:

Ok so heres how it went
So i was swing my pan as scout and i didnt even swing it 15 times and then Avenger, who was warden told me to stop pan spaming so then i swung it like once more right after he said it, not on purpose though. So then like 5 seconds later I swung it, only once. OhStopYou then shoots me so then say "swinging it once is not spamming" so then he said "you are just swinging it slower" so then i said "swinging it once is not spamming" so he then says "you are loopholeing so hard right now" which he then says "my name is OhStopYou, so just stop". I then say "so then stop complaining" which i followed up with "*Lenny*/", exactly that. Then he said "I'm done" then banned me. I do not believe that, that is a justifiable reason for a permament ban. And so do Caleb956, ^xG^ Jänal, [xG|Rep]Swag

Division:

Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name:

Sirflash Steam ID:

STEAM_0:1:80090954 Ban Type:

Server Ban Information:

Ok so heres how it went
So i was swing my pan as scout and i didnt even swing it 15 times and then Avenger, who was warden told me to stop pan spaming so then i swung it like once more right after he said it, not on purpose though. So then like 5 seconds later I swung it, only once. OhStopYou then shoots me so then say "swinging it once is not spamming" so then he said "you are just swinging it slower" so then i said "swinging it once is not spamming" so he then says "you are loopholeing so hard right now" which he then says "my name is OhStopYou, so just stop". I then say "so then stop complaining" which i followed up with "*Lenny*/", exactly that. Then he said "I'm done" then banned me. I do not believe that, that is a justifiable reason for a permament ban. And so do Caleb956, ^xG^ Jänal, [xG|Rep]Swag

Division:

Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name:

Sirflash Steam ID:

STEAM_0:1:80090954 Ban Type:

Server Ban Information:

Ok so heres how it went
So i was swing my pan as scout and i didnt even swing it 15 times and then Avenger, who was warden told me to stop pan spaming so then i swung it like once more right after he said it, not on purpose though. So then like 5 seconds later I swung it, only once. OhStopYou then shoots me so then say "swinging it once is not spamming" so then he said "you are just swinging it slower" so then i said "swinging it once is not spamming" so he then says "you are loopholeing so hard right now" which he then says "my name is OhStopYou, so just stop". I then say "so then stop complaining" which i followed up with "*Lenny*/", exactly that. Then he said "I'm done" then banned me. I do not believe that, that is a justifiable reason for a permament ban. And so do Caleb956, ^xG^ Jänal, [xG|Rep]Swag

Division:

Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name:

Sirflash Steam ID:

STEAM_0:1:80090954 Ban Type:

Server Ban Information:

Ok so heres how it went
So i was swing my pan as scout and i didnt even swing it 15 times and then Avenger, who was warden told me to stop pan spaming so then i swung it like once more right after he said it, not on purpose though. So then like 5 seconds later I swung it, only once. OhStopYou then shoots me so then say "swinging it once is not spamming" so then he said "you are just swinging it slower" so then i said "swinging it once is not spamming" so he then says "you are loopholeing so hard right now" which he then says "my name is OhStopYou, so just stop". I then say "so then stop complaining" which i followed up with "*Lenny*/", exactly that. Then he said "I'm done" then banned me. I do not believe that, that is a justifiable reason for a permament ban. And so do Caleb956, ^xG^ Jänal, [xG|Rep]Swag

Division:

Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name:

Sirflash Steam ID:

STEAM_0:1:80090954 Ban Type:

Server Ban Information:

Ok so heres how it went
So i was swing my pan as scout and i didnt even swing it 15 times and then Avenger, who was warden told me to stop pan spaming so then i swung it like once more right after he said it, not on purpose though. So then like 5 seconds later I swung it, only once. OhStopYou then shoots me so then say "swinging it once is not spamming" so then he said "you are just swinging it slower" so then i said "swinging it once is not spamming" so he then says "you are loopholeing so hard right now" which he then says "my name is OhStopYou, so just stop". I then say "so then stop complaining" which i followed up with "*Lenny*/", exactly that. Then he said "I'm done" then banned me. I do not believe that, that is a justifiable reason for a permament ban. And so do Caleb956, ^xG^ Jänal, [xG|Rep]Swag

Division:

Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name:

Sirflash Steam ID:

STEAM_0:1:80090954 Ban Type:

Server Ban Information:

Ok so heres how it went
So i was swing my pan as scout and i didnt even swing it 15 times and then Avenger, who was warden told me to stop pan spaming so then i swung it like once more right after he said it, not on purpose though. So then like 5 seconds later I swung it, only once. OhStopYou then shoots me so then say "swinging it once is not spamming" so then he said "you are just swinging it slower" so then i said "swinging it once is not spamming" so he then says "you are loopholeing so hard right now" which he then says "my name is OhStopYou, so just stop". I then say "so then stop complaining" which i followed up with "*Lenny*/", exactly that. Then he said "I'm done" then banned me. I do not believe that, that is a justifiable reason for a permament ban. And so do Caleb956, ^xG^ Jänal, [xG|Rep]Swag

Division:

Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name:

Sirflash Steam ID:

STEAM_0:1:80090954 Ban Type:

Server Ban Information:

Ok so heres how it went
So i was swing my pan as scout and i didnt even swing it 15 times and then Avenger, who was warden told me to stop pan spaming so then i swung it like once more right after he said it, not on purpose though. So then like 5 seconds later I swung it, only once. OhStopYou then shoots me so then say "swinging it once is not spamming" so then he said "you are just swinging it slower" so then i said "swinging it once is not spamming" so he then says "you are loopholeing so hard right now" which he then says "my name is OhStopYou, so just stop". I then say "so then stop complaining" which i followed up with "*Lenny*/", exactly that. Then he said "I'm done" then banned me. I do not believe that, that is a justifiable reason for a permament ban. And so do Caleb956, ^xG^ Jänal, [xG|Rep]Swag

+1 Nice and pretty cool, I've never seen him break a rule or argue or anything bad really
I think he'd be a great member

+1 Nice and pretty cool, I've never seen him break a rule or argue or anything bad really
I think he'd be a great member

+1 Nice and pretty cool, I've never seen him break a rule or argue or anything bad really
I think he'd be a great member

+1 Nice and pretty cool, I've never seen him break a rule or argue or anything bad really
I think he'd be a great member

I'll miss you bb. . . ;-; ;_; ;~; ;w;

I'll miss you bb. . . ;-; ;_; ;~; ;w;