Abstract 4 Posted November 17, 2018 Division Counter-Strike Offenders In-Game Name I swallow dick Offender's Identity STEAM_0:0:207770829 Ban Type Server Ban Explanation and Evidence Length: Perm ban (IP ban if possible) words are not ne eded to describe the events of this. 1 Thorax_ reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaygoki 237 Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) yea that screenshot doesn't show anything.. maybe words are needed to describe it screenshots aren't really the best evidence either, there have been multiple times when I gave an order that everyone except for 1-2 people got wrong, and a screenshot would have shown me killing 8 people so you should probably have video evidence too. screenshots are extremely unlikely to cause a ban Edited November 17, 2018 by Bonk hit enter early tard (see edit history) 1 Dannypicacho reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hg2CI2 8 Posted November 17, 2018 +1 I was there when he massed, but you uploaded the wrong image I think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abstract 4 Posted November 17, 2018 wrong image let me fix 6 minutes ago, Bonk said: yea that screenshot doesn't show anything.. maybe words are needed to describe it screenshots aren't really the best evidence either, there have been multiple times when I gave an order that everyone except for 1-2 people got wrong, and a screenshot would have shown me killing 8 people so you should probably have video evidence too. screenshots are extremely unlikely to cause a ban also thanks for the advice ill try and do so next time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dannypicacho 273 Posted November 17, 2018 context is everything and that just isn't enough 1 jaygoki reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hg2CI2 8 Posted November 17, 2018 +1 I was there when it happened I think he gave up trying to be a CT and just massed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tatost 604 Posted November 17, 2018 +1 I was actually one of the people who got massed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roy 25 Posted November 17, 2018 +1 I wasn’t there but it’s solid evidenced but a video is more recommended of someone freekills, but hey, he massed freekilled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tatost 604 Posted November 17, 2018 10 hours ago, Tatost said: +1 I was actually one of the people who got massed he did something wrong as CT, and instead of slaying he walked to the side of the line and shot everyone in the fucking head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dannypicacho 273 Posted November 17, 2018 Honestly though that pic plus all the witnesses shows a really strong case and I'd say +1 to banning 1 Kypari reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forest 309 Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) Personally don't think the evidence is substantial enough to back the claim (no one's fault, just a fact- made a thread re:gathering evidence for reference), not including word of mouth. However, I'm also the type to follow the whole "innocent until proven guilty" deal so I'm not too keen on taking anyone's word for it, regardless of the number of people backing a claim. Reason being that there have been multiple instances in the past where groups of Players would work against one other Player to dish out an excessive punishment (not that this is the case, but the principle still remains) with a lack of evidence. A minor example would be banning someone for flaming with chatlogs provided as evidence, but only providing the accused's logs specifically with no context- they could have been provoked to act out; but I digress. With that all said, is there any reason that the proposed punishment is a Server/IP ban and not a permanent CT ban? Did the accused disconnect immediately following the mass freekill? If not, I don't see why this degree of punishment is necessary, griefing or otherwise unless there is a direct correlation to our rules that state as much. Edited November 18, 2018 by Forest Adding evidence gathering thread (see edit history) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lithium 302 Posted November 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Forest said: Personally don't think the evidence is substantial enough to back the claim (no one's fault, just a fact- made a thread re:gathering evidence for reference), not including word of mouth. However, I'm also the type to follow the whole "innocent until proven guilty" deal so I'm not too keen on taking anyone's word for it, regardless of the number of people backing a claim. Reason being that there have been multiple instances in the past where groups of Players would work against one other Player to dish out an excessive punishment (not that this is the case, but the principle still remains) with a lack of evidence. A minor example would be banning someone for flaming with chatlogs provided as evidence, but only providing the accused's logs specifically with no context- they could have been provoked to act out; but I digress. Yeah basically this, not really enough to prove anything beyond a doubt On 11/16/2018 at 10:10 PM, Abstract said: Length: Perm ban (IP ban if possible) You don't need to (and shouldn't) have this in your ban requests. Also, IP bans aren't used unless someone is specifically ban evading otherwise they're completely pointless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites