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One thing I do thing we need to implement is a map timer. No more than 15 minutes on any map without a change. Unless, of course, the server votes to extend. That's how most surf servers do it. Also, can we PLEASE change the home map from Utopia to something else that doesn't have a large combat area that encourages camping? It's a great map, but too often people lose sight of actually surfing and just focus killing each other. I'm all for combat surf, but if you take out the surf, it's just combat. T.T

Every single one of these rules is absolutely useless to the surf server. The point of the server is to SURF. Combat shouldn't be considered AT ALL. Utopia has a lot of hidden areas because it REWARDS actually surfing. Sorry Matsi, but this isn't a very good ruleset for the Surf Server. I don't feel it needs its standalone ruleset as there isn't anything special that needs to be addressed. We can just use the general server rules and be covered. And IIRC, there is spawn protection currently implemented on the server, so spawncamping ALSO shouldn't be an issue. If it isn't, we can change that and make sure it gets implemented. I'm also not sure if using the kill command even affects your teammates. It may do so in CS:GO, but I'm nearly 100% sure it does nothing on TF2. As far as trying to regulate the kill command goes...that's not a good idea. If a normal surfer wants to use the server, his main focus will be surfing the map, meaning as soon as he hits the combat area, he's probably going to suicide. Hell, if I had it my way, I'd completely remove the combat areas of the maps we use and make it so the instant you fail the map, you spawn right back at the beginning. Too many times I log onto our surf server and NOBODY is surfing, but instead, all fighting each other in the combat zone. That's not what the server is for. Ghosting...once again, our focus isn't combat. It's surf. Not an issue. So...yeah. I appreciate the effort in trying to help, but this set of rules is in no way going to be implemented for the TF2 surf. If anything, we need to completely rework how the server is being handled, as it currently has too much focus on combat. THAT BEING SAID, I do want to address a few issues with the server. For starters, God/Buddha mode is not accessible, and I don't believe any of the donator commands are either. I was also unable to force a map change the other day when the server glitched and wouldn't change on its own, even after a vote from the server, so that should probably be fixed too. Also, to comment on the /cptele command...why do we even have this? Going back to the whole idea that a surf map should be focusing on surfing, why do we need a teleport plugin when we should be surfing the map anyways? I feel like it's an excellent tool....if our primary focus is on Utopia, but it really shouldn't be. @Ohstopyou, any chance we could get those added/fixed?

I'm assuming this means the boxes on Utopia and similar. I don't see why not. If people lag, maybe they should get a not shitty comp that can run TF2? This is dumb. I think this should be removed entirely because if you land 1 shot and they suicide, you get credit for the kill. However, I think using !cptele to avoid death should be thought over. This is stupid, too. I play surf as my main server, being rank #1 on there with the most hours. Engis cannot build in the one-way glass areas, so I don't think this is appropriate. It's a reward for completing the map, let it be a damn reward. Major revisions need to be made to this... I honestly think the General MOTD is fine for surf.

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I kind of agree. I know a few people who literally play NOTHING but Blitzkrieg or MLG Sniper, and it gets pretty annoying. A cooldown on bosses would be pretty neat, honestly. It also keeps from having 4 Herobrines in a row. So yeah +1 on something that makes this slightly possible/more manageable

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I'm fine with Utopia as the home map. It's a nice beginner map, and people love the map generally. The server doesn't automate checkpoints. I'd rather not remove this unless we get a plugin that automatically saves checkpoints. (ie, akai/crazyfrogs have different levels.) Hub, god, buddha, and more fit under this category. I don't know every plugin that's broken, but I'm sure Scoot can enlighten our DLs. Resurfed has a plugin written by themselves. We will not have one of these unless based @Nomulous helps us. (see his reply in the other thread I posted) Agree with this 100%. I will begin looking for maps and linking them to Kbraszz. I don't understand what you mean here. Isn't /cptele what you're wanting in this case? It keeps your current speed. Make binds for /cpsave and /cptele during the surf, and just use your bind to tele to the "checkpoint" you created. PLEASE. DO. THIS. OMG.

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>Pushes for the Surf Server in the first place. >Has over 200 logged hours on ReSuSurfed >Over 300 completed maps. >Elite Ranked. >"Have you even been on the surf server?" Uwot. Guaranteed I log more time there than you do. And this is the problem. CURRENTLY, it's treated like 95% combat. That needs to change. If the surf server were to be managed and played like an ACTUAL surf server, all the rules you suggested would be completely pointless. And I'm not about to start regulating the server as a deathmatch server. Sounds to me like you haven't even been on enough to see that we actually have other maps than Utopia.

No. It's not "nearly impossible." All you need to do is have a pyro wm+1 the entire wall and the sniper can and will die if the pyro has hitsounds on. The !cpsave in the room is a good point. How about we revise the rule so that you cannot !cpsave in these spots, but you can camp them? This would make it so the person has to finish the map every time to get to the spot.

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The first match is the 28th (That's a Monday. My birthday is Tuesday. Maybe the win can be my birthday present. <3) Whyte asked for no roster riding. Basically, if you're on the roster and are unwilling to play at all, you will be kicked. (If you're a sub and the main is always there, that is fine.) Let's have a good season boiz. :^)

Some of these make no sense. These are so pointless. "Do not suicide to avoid death" - What is even the point of this? Someone's going to press their kill bind when they fall off the surf ramp? How does this change anything? "No ghosting" - So it's an offense to say where someone is on a surf map? Plus, these are jailbreak rules. Not surf.

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+1 because people should learn how to forgive and forget

So KB and myself have been talking and after recent events we're cracking down. No more nice guys, no more favoritism, nothing. TF2 Division has literally turned in to the shitstorm and scum of all of xG and this is the end. If ANYONE else at this point can not get along with the other people in this division, and in other divisions, you WILL be stripped of all staff powers and/or removal of membership and/or forum ban. There is no need to insult people over a screen. You may think you're witty or funny or maybe you think the shit you say doesn't affect people. People have feelings. You don't know what's going on in someone's life, and like real life, your actions will have consequences. @kbraszzz @Nomulous @Community Leader

Wasabi! This is second and last time I went on this website and now... I shall say my good bye. Thx all the xG for supporting me and making Tf2 once again the best game ever. I give special thx to All the DL, Admins, Mods for their hard work and keeping this community going. Also thx to to Demonic Disaster for helping my through my xG as a member, Bliz (idk if he was in xG) for being one awesome dude in Tf2, and finally NitNat for someone who can change something and person's life. Farewell... (10% I'm coming back XD) -Spoopy

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