diabeetus

hi

A decision was reached, and Vector's in-game ban will be reduced to 6 months (meaning he will be unbanned on November 1st, 2015). Additionally, Vector's forum ban will be removed. However, this does not mean that Vector's behavior both on the forums or in-game (when his ban expires in November) will be tolerated by any means whatsoever. During the next 6 months (and additionally when his in-game ban is up) Vector will be under a strict probationary period. If there appears to be no noticeable difference (or possibly even a worsening of) his excessively belligerent behavior, Vector will be permanently banned. Basically, if he keeps up the kind of behavior that has been observed recently, he will be permed. Keep in mind that attempts to instigate or harass Vector in order to get him into reacting in a way that could result in him getting banned will be punished accordingly. Lastly, make sure that if you see something that you would consider to be evidence of excessively negative behavior, take down some kind of evidence. Whether it's recording a demo, taking a screencap of chat logs, it has to be something concrete. Banning people off of hearsay (not matter how truthful it may be) isn't optimal and leads to a lot of future confusion, especially in the event of a ban protest. Trying to remove negative/toxic behavior in xG is going to be an incredibly lengthy journey, and will be a process that cannot be accomplished solely through the efforts of the higher ups/CL's of xG. While sometimes it may not feel like it, we're trying to listen to the community as best as possible while trying to preserve our own values as well. I personally apologize for the chaos that has enveloped the clan in the past week or so, and take responsibility for any and all negative/detrimental outcomes that may come as a result of our recent decisions (including this one). Additionally, I apologize for the apparent flip-flopityness of the decisions of the CL's (Hidingmaster excluded) and the somewhat inefficient method that was used for the carrying out of bans following the posting of the Toxicity Reform thread. In the heat of the moment I think we all just wanted to get something done and didn't really head into it as efficiently and cleanly as we could have. If anyone has any questions or comments, feel free to send me a message on steam or through the forums, or post in the "Opinion on Recent Events Thread" (please try to keep things civil and respectful). ~closed.

To start things off, none of the CL's want Vector unbanned (as in, unbanned without any punishment). To try and claim that we want him unbanned to both the community as a whole and to Silence is so incredibly dishonest and deceitful that I'm honestly shocked. The discussion with regard to Vector's condition was very clearly still ongoing, and as someone who was actively involved in the conversation regarding Vector's unban I would expect for you (@metalslug53) to know that. There wasn't even close to a consensus between what the CL's felt would be the proper course of action, and to claim otherwise simply is wrong. Yes, Penguin, Lee and I felt that Vector's permanent ban was too harsh, but at no point did we ever claim to want Vector to be unbanned. The three of us clearly voiced that we felt that Vector deserved a punishment, but none of us had agreed (at that point) as to what the length of that punishment would be. The closest thing to a consensus that we came to was that (A) Vector should receive a slightly less severe ban (on the order of a couple of months, as previously mentioned), and (B) that when this ban ran out that Vector would be under and incredibly strict probationary period (as initially proposed by Moosty and agreed to by Scootaloo) and that if he demonstrated any of the qualities for which he was previously banned for that he would be permanently banned, no questions asked. Interestingly enough, this initial "compromise" is nearly identical to the compromise currently being worked out (proposed by DrLee, here's what it is, if anyone is interested). Also, I really don't want to address the big ole' steaming pile of shit that is people threatening to leave the clan if Vector was unbanned. If your attachment to the community is so fickle that even the prospect of having someone on the server who has a negative impact on the server is enough to make you leave, then I really just don't know what to say. Leaving the clan simply because you think that we're making a decision which will have a negative impact on our community doesn't do diddly. In fact, it just makes the clan's condition even worse. If you really care about the well-being of this clan, prove to me that my decision was a mistake. Prove to me that my train of thought is completely bonkers. If Vector truly is as terrible of an influence as everyone says (and I'm not saying that he isn't), it really shouldn't be too hard to gather some actual evidence against him other than word-of-mouth. I have no problem with voicing issues about the decisions of higher-ups, but threatening to leave because you think we're making the wrong decision is essentially the equivalent of taking your ball and going home.

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~closed at request of OP

While what Brian said certainly was crude/blunt, it really isn't worthy of a ban. Keep in mind that you can always make use of the 'report post' button in the case of a post or two, instead of making a ban request with little substantial evidence. @Hidingmaster @DrLee @ThePenguin

~closed for prevention of shitstorm and for CL consideration.

~closed.

change "smelly" to "filthy" and replace the icon with this @Tsuchikure

I really love to listen to some smooth jazz. @DrLee

During recent months, toxicity has become a major issue within xenoGamers. Recently, there's been an extreme amount of drama, toxic attitudes and just a general feeling of negative behavior. There's been a discussion between the Community Leaders, Division Leaders/Managers and Silence and Nomulous as to how we can begin to stem the extreme amount of toxic behavior within xenoGamers. As a result of our discussion, we came up with a series of reforms which we believe will help to get xenoGamers back on track, especially in the area of the community's behavior. We've combed through the roster of our members, and identified who we consider to be the most toxic and contributing towards a negative community environment. The memebers listed below will receive a punishment (of varying degrees of severity) due to their negative/toxic behavior. Tier 1 (removal of membership and in-game/forum ban): -Vector -Iggy Iggs Tier 2 (shorter in-game ban and/or forum ban, at risk for membership removal): -Gayporneon -Banginonatrashcan -SupremeWolf Tier 3 (at risk for punishment) -Hachi -Bach -Fasty In addition, we're going to be taking a more strict approach towards toxic behavior in the future. Keep in mind, just because the members were identified as having a negative/toxic behavior DOES NOT give you the right to bully/harass them in any way, shape or form. Additionally, please keep all replies civil and on-topic. Posts attempting to derail or harass will be deleted and the user responsible may be banned from the forums. Post @Nomulous Edit: This thread is for informative reasons. Do not discuss or argue any facts that are written within the thread. If someone decides to comment, please do not add to a "shitstorm", you as a contributor may/will get punished for doing so.

Thank you @metalslug53, @Bach and @ChickenPanda for the clarification. While I doubt that a situation like this will happen again in the foreseeable future, please let a Community Leader or Silence/Nomulous know before doing something like this. Without the context provided, what Bach did looked (and still kinda does imo) very sketchy and certainly appeared to be deserving of a permanent ban. I understand that this was for educational purposes, but without any context it really does look like Bach was using an alt account to aimbot for abusive/exploitive purposes. Once again, if the need for something like this arises again, use it only as a last resort (e.g. you cannot find any videos/demos of whatever you're looking for) and only after you have notified a Community Leader and/or Silence/Nomulous, and they have approved its use. Also, I have no idea who banned Bach, it certainly wasn't me. Basically, don't do this again.

What in the world is this horsefrick? #KeepLee

Division: Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name: Bach Offender's Steam ID: Doesn't matter right now Rules Broken: Aimbot on an alt account Evidence: Gyazo - 5c6d5f6289ac8d37605f9d2ec98662e1.png Last night, it was reported (via an anonymous vigilante) that Bach uses an alt account for aimbotting. Essentially, the purpose of this thread is to discuss whether or not his main account should be banned (hint: it should, and there's a 1000% chance that it will), and to get Bach's input/response. If any of you turds attempt to turn this thread into a poop-storm (ex: the bobbywow ban protest) your posts will be deleted and/or you will be banned on the forums. @Bach @ThePenguin @DrLee @Hidingmaster @kbraszzz @Moosty @metalslug53 @Nomulous @Rhododendron @Bleed (the special snowflake of my heart)

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~closed due to resolution of issue. If any higher-ups who didn't get the chance to post their opinion want to now, feel free to do so.

It's definitely a great show, I'm just not entirely very happy with some of the content that they cut from the books however.

This. I'm all for trying this out, but we need to keep a close watch out for any potential abuse. The safest approach would be do a trial run with a smaller portion of current staff and see how it goes. If there's no abuse of ban editing powers, then I might be alright with giving "edit ban" powers to most, if not all staff.

I remember when this happened. I got on about 15 minutes after it happened. Fuck me in the ass.

yum, gravedigging! Fresh off the grill too! ~closed.

Effective immediately, all potential members must be at least 16 years old in order to apply for membership/staff. What this means All current members/staff who are under 16 years old, will still be members/staff. All pending member/staff applications that do not meet the age requirement will not be invalidated. All future member/staff applications must meet this requirement no matter what, unless the age requirement is edited in the future. Previous applicants of xG who are under 16 are still able to apply at any time! For the entire month of April 2015, anyone not meeting these criteria may apply. Starting May 2015, the age requirement will go into effect. If any higher-ups wish to discuss this change, feel free to reply to the essentially identical thread in admin discussion. PSA: this is not an April Fools' joke, if anyone was thinking that.

~closed

Sham... :( I miss him so much, the loneliness is crippling ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)