Moosty

Going to post what I said in the tf2 higher up convo here. It's relevant and this way the CLs can see it.
 
 
I've seen improvement. He's not as bad as he was before on the forums. Vector isn't a nice guy, but the tone is different now. He's a bit combative but no personal attacks, and no starting shit on purpose (that ban protest was going downhill regardless, he could've changed to an amish guy that gave all his tf2 shit out for free and that thread would have gone the same way. All of us know that). He isn't a kissass or one for apologies, but he's honest and direct. He got the complaints about the personal attacks and being rude to individuals, but I'm not seeing it on forums. He has been passionate about disagreeing with rules and our decisions, but all of that is fair game for all members to comment on. I know alot of people stopped coming because of him, but nothing he has done on our servers is recent. If the discussion is about whether or not he has changed, then nothing he did on our servers is relevant to that discussion. When I first joined I was friends with Vector, then he took a turn for the worse and playing on the same server wasn't an enjoyable experience anymore. The Vector I'm seeing on the forums reminds me of the old Vector. He'll never be a suck up like other people. He won't beg. Forbidding him from mona pizza is pointless because he isn't the type to do that anyway. But what I'm seeing from him is improvement. He was banned because he stopped attacking rule breakers in a direct and effective way and turned into a shit starter that wasn't fun to be around. The way he talks and interacts isn't always the most amiable, and he's argumentative, but I'm seeing the arguments shift back to a productive tone. I understand if you haven't seen it, or disagree, I'm just asking for you to look deeper and give him a chance, because I have seen improvement.

Staying neutral for now since you were just unbanned. But he has been 10x better then we last saw him.

Going to post what I said in the tf2 higher up convo here. It's relevant and this way the CLs can see it.
 
 
I've seen improvement. He's not as bad as he was before on the forums. Vector isn't a nice guy, but the tone is different now. He's a bit combative but no personal attacks, and no starting shit on purpose (that ban protest was going downhill regardless, he could've changed to an amish guy that gave all his tf2 shit out for free and that thread would have gone the same way. All of us know that). He isn't a kissass or one for apologies, but he's honest and direct. He got the complaints about the personal attacks and being rude to individuals, but I'm not seeing it on forums. He has been passionate about disagreeing with rules and our decisions, but all of that is fair game for all members to comment on. I know alot of people stopped coming because of him, but nothing he has done on our servers is recent. If the discussion is about whether or not he has changed, then nothing he did on our servers is relevant to that discussion. When I first joined I was friends with Vector, then he took a turn for the worse and playing on the same server wasn't an enjoyable experience anymore. The Vector I'm seeing on the forums reminds me of the old Vector. He'll never be a suck up like other people. He won't beg. Forbidding him from mona pizza is pointless because he isn't the type to do that anyway. But what I'm seeing from him is improvement. He was banned because he stopped attacking rule breakers in a direct and effective way and turned into a shit starter that wasn't fun to be around. The way he talks and interacts isn't always the most amiable, and he's argumentative, but I'm seeing the arguments shift back to a productive tone. I understand if you haven't seen it, or disagree, I'm just asking for you to look deeper and give him a chance, because I have seen improvement.

I honestly have mixed thoughts on this. Let's get it out there, I don't like Vector. I honestly don't. I did at first, and I'm not denying that you helped me alot while I've been in xG, but you've been cocky, confrontational, and crossed the line with what you say to people on the servers, and you've done it alot. You we're staff before, and as long as I have a vote in the matter I'll vote against you regaining powers, unless there is a very, Let me emphasize very, drastic change in how you act on the servers. As far as playing on the servers, I do feel that even if you didn't agree with the ban, you've had plenty of time to think about it, and aren't going to login and instantly act like an ass. People are going to disagree, but I'll +1 for an unban. You're stubborn, but you're an adult. You know you need to change how you act even if you disagree with it. My only concern is that I won't be there to see how you act until my PC is done, and staff that still hold a grudge might overly nitpick or even abuse. You getting unbanned won't be popular but you're right about people threatening to leave if you're unbanned being stupid. People had problems with you as staff, but you won't be staff. So to everyone in the tf2 div, if he's unbanned give him a chance to prove himself, he's been gone for a while, and deserves this ONE chance. If he's an adult about this we won't have any trouble. I've rambled on long enough, waiting to hear from the other DMs and DLs.

I honestly have mixed thoughts on this. Let's get it out there, I don't like Vector. I honestly don't. I did at first, and I'm not denying that you helped me alot while I've been in xG, but you've been cocky, confrontational, and crossed the line with what you say to people on the servers, and you've done it alot. You we're staff before, and as long as I have a vote in the matter I'll vote against you regaining powers, unless there is a very, Let me emphasize very, drastic change in how you act on the servers. As far as playing on the servers, I do feel that even if you didn't agree with the ban, you've had plenty of time to think about it, and aren't going to login and instantly act like an ass. People are going to disagree, but I'll +1 for an unban. You're stubborn, but you're an adult. You know you need to change how you act even if you disagree with it. My only concern is that I won't be there to see how you act until my PC is done, and staff that still hold a grudge might overly nitpick or even abuse. You getting unbanned won't be popular but you're right about people threatening to leave if you're unbanned being stupid. People had problems with you as staff, but you won't be staff. So to everyone in the tf2 div, if he's unbanned give him a chance to prove himself, he's been gone for a while, and deserves this ONE chance. If he's an adult about this we won't have any trouble. I've rambled on long enough, waiting to hear from the other DMs and DLs.

I honestly have mixed thoughts on this. Let's get it out there, I don't like Vector. I honestly don't. I did at first, and I'm not denying that you helped me alot while I've been in xG, but you've been cocky, confrontational, and crossed the line with what you say to people on the servers, and you've done it alot. You we're staff before, and as long as I have a vote in the matter I'll vote against you regaining powers, unless there is a very, Let me emphasize very, drastic change in how you act on the servers. As far as playing on the servers, I do feel that even if you didn't agree with the ban, you've had plenty of time to think about it, and aren't going to login and instantly act like an ass. People are going to disagree, but I'll +1 for an unban. You're stubborn, but you're an adult. You know you need to change how you act even if you disagree with it. My only concern is that I won't be there to see how you act until my PC is done, and staff that still hold a grudge might overly nitpick or even abuse. You getting unbanned won't be popular but you're right about people threatening to leave if you're unbanned being stupid. People had problems with you as staff, but you won't be staff. So to everyone in the tf2 div, if he's unbanned give him a chance to prove himself, he's been gone for a while, and deserves this ONE chance. If he's an adult about this we won't have any trouble. I've rambled on long enough, waiting to hear from the other DMs and DLs.

@Hachi @BananaShoes @Ohstopyou @kbraszzz @Bach @Whyte @ChickenPanda
 
Who needs a working pc when you have a puppy.

@Hachi @BananaShoes @Ohstopyou @kbraszzz @Bach @Whyte @ChickenPanda
 
Who needs a working pc when you have a puppy.

Oh SNAAAAP
-actually closed

Xena is my warrior princess confirmed.
 
 
 
 
I'm here all week guys

Comcast comes tomorrow and I'm mostly moved in I can play either time.

Wow, this was just a treat.

Wow, this was just a treat.

Or @kbraszzz and @Ohstopyou can stop being tyrants and give me kson. Seriously plz.
 
 
I want my special eyes

...This here is Mona PIZZAAAA...
Makers of the world's best eatsa...
Fresh sauce and cheese galo-ore...
Brought straight to your front do-or..
Yum yum yum.

Okay so I'm moving to my new apartment on monday next week and Comcast isn't coming to hook up internet until Tuesday so I don't think I'm going to make the match. Just letting you guys know way in advance so you don't have to find a sub last minute. @Kart did a good job last time or you could ring somebody.
 
@ChickenPanda I guess you're relevant here find sum1 gud

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That's 10 I'll accept tomorrow

Or @kbraszzz and @Ohstopyou can stop being tyrants and give me kson. Seriously plz.
 
 
I want my special eyes

Some people are going to hate me for this but +1, he does not seem like an asshole and acts REALLY mature. I do not see why he should not be promoted (just me)

inb4 fuck off or not funny ratings

Not to xG, but to my computer. I spilt tea on my laptop. I did everything I could to save it, and it will still turn on and boot properly, but the keyboard is shorted and altogether fucked. It might improve in the next couple of days but I doubt it, and I can't even type my password to log in so I doubt an external keyboard would help. I probably wouldn't even be able to get it working without getting past the password. So I'm living without a computer until this one starts working again or I figure something else out. I'll miss tf2 and teamspeak so come visit me on the forums while I'm being an active DM. Not really much else to say here, I'm actually pretty depressed about this.
 
RIP Moosty's laptop 2013-2015
 
@metalslug53 sorry bae :(
@Kart stay beautiful like the true Carl you are
@Bach I'll actually miss you
@ChickenPanda @Ohstopyou you guys are great, find a good heavy ringer, none of these xG scrubs, and go 3-5 the dream.
@kbraszzz I don't know how but try and hold everything together on the servers you're our only hope
 
I honestly blame the brits I brew my own tea one damn time and this happens.

Awww....Perhaps we need to have a Boston Tea Party in Moosty's keyboard.

Not to xG, but to my computer. I spilt tea on my laptop. I did everything I could to save it, and it will still turn on and boot properly, but the keyboard is shorted and altogether fucked. It might improve in the next couple of days but I doubt it, and I can't even type my password to log in so I doubt an external keyboard would help. I probably wouldn't even be able to get it working without getting past the password. So I'm living without a computer until this one starts working again or I figure something else out. I'll miss tf2 and teamspeak so come visit me on the forums while I'm being an active DM. Not really much else to say here, I'm actually pretty depressed about this.
 
RIP Moosty's laptop 2013-2015
 
@metalslug53 sorry bae :(
@Kart stay beautiful like the true Carl you are
@Bach I'll actually miss you
@ChickenPanda @Ohstopyou you guys are great, find a good heavy ringer, none of these xG scrubs, and go 3-5 the dream.
@kbraszzz I don't know how but try and hold everything together on the servers you're our only hope
 
I honestly blame the brits I brew my own tea one damn time and this happens.

Not to xG, but to my computer. I spilt tea on my laptop. I did everything I could to save it, and it will still turn on and boot properly, but the keyboard is shorted and altogether fucked. It might improve in the next couple of days but I doubt it, and I can't even type my password to log in so I doubt an external keyboard would help. I probably wouldn't even be able to get it working without getting past the password. So I'm living without a computer until this one starts working again or I figure something else out. I'll miss tf2 and teamspeak so come visit me on the forums while I'm being an active DM. Not really much else to say here, I'm actually pretty depressed about this.
 
RIP Moosty's laptop 2013-2015
 
@metalslug53 sorry bae :(
@Kart stay beautiful like the true Carl you are
@Bach I'll actually miss you
@ChickenPanda @Ohstopyou you guys are great, find a good heavy ringer, none of these xG scrubs, and go 3-5 the dream.
@kbraszzz I don't know how but try and hold everything together on the servers you're our only hope
 
I honestly blame the brits I brew my own tea one damn time and this happens.

Not to xG, but to my computer. I spilt tea on my laptop. I did everything I could to save it, and it will still turn on and boot properly, but the keyboard is shorted and altogether fucked. It might improve in the next couple of days but I doubt it, and I can't even type my password to log in so I doubt an external keyboard would help. I probably wouldn't even be able to get it working without getting past the password. So I'm living without a computer until this one starts working again or I figure something else out. I'll miss tf2 and teamspeak so come visit me on the forums while I'm being an active DM. Not really much else to say here, I'm actually pretty depressed about this.
 
RIP Moosty's laptop 2013-2015
 
@metalslug53 sorry bae :(
@Kart stay beautiful like the true Carl you are
@Bach I'll actually miss you
@ChickenPanda @Ohstopyou you guys are great, find a good heavy ringer, none of these xG scrubs, and go 3-5 the dream.
@kbraszzz I don't know how but try and hold everything together on the servers you're our only hope
 
I honestly blame the brits I brew my own tea one damn time and this happens.