Kypari

All of those complaining about it here and saying there were no votes all have also admitted to joining the server AFTER bosses etc. were already spawned, and could not have known legitimately whether there were votes for them or not, and their abuse report is strictly because of something that they joined into not being what they (3 or 4 of them) wanted at that time.
 

The only evidence presented is that there were things spawned.
Testimonies from the Prosecutor's Council have all confirmed that the prosecutor and all of his council joined after mobs had already been spawned, thus not being involved in the server wide vote that supposedly approved it (no evidence for or against an approving vote, but if it was not approved i'm sure someone else would have complained who was there when it started)
No actual clear rules on the matter, however seeing as it is stated to have had more than 70% of the server population at the time of votes in favor, IMO Matsi was in accordance with decency on the donator perks

From this we can conclude that no real abuse of donator powers was done here, and the prosecution was just mad they were the .01% and instead the 99.99% were having fun. gg @kbraszzz since this is your div, you are responsible for le close. here is what I have gathered in a neutral standpoint. i say neutral because i think both parties in this case are faggots.

I suggest putting in rules for donator perks. I've been seeing a lot of people using votes, all chat, and boss spawning wrongly.
Since we didn't have rules for this and we have no visual evidence of votes being initiated and cannot rely solely on member testimonies, I believe that Matsi should be let off with a warning for this one. Also, just to give a heads up, there will be a thread opened in the TF2 Discussion section of forums on what rules should be implemented for donators and what should and should not be considered donator abuse.
@kbraszzz

-1
There just seems to be some conflict here.

There were no Vots

Another tf2 scrub gone :D

no. you dishonor your family when you go on strange level up servers

But that's not the point of rotation, the point of rotation is to have vanilla gameplay with some sick ass maps. RTD would only ruin it. the gaming history part is what makes it interesting.

"Why not?"
You gotta love that

Mass freekilling on jailbreak is already xg's fine way of leveling up stranges.

from what i see here with the image.
 
Grow a second skin. jesus christ.

Also, people should +1 @ColdEndeavour on his member app. He made a map exclusive to our servers and is not annoying or a kid.

@Muzzle
@Moosty
@StarmiX
@Chrono
 

http://www.mediafire.com/download/07ieu2kv8qe7iez/xg_bunker_v2.zip
 
Not sure when this version will be uploaded.
 
-Version 2 Changes-
 
1.) Changed the elevator from being a "func_door" entity to a "func_movelinear" entity.
2.) Modified the trigger entities around the exterior doors to reset after 1 second instead of 0 seconds.
3.) Modified the exterior doors themselves to reset back to their original position (closed) after 4 seconds instead of 16 seconds.
 
*issues I addressed were based off of what I saw from the video posted on xG. Everything worked fine for me during the only time I got to play the map on TGH yesterday, no problems occurred during that time, and it was not until after I left and several hours later issues started to occur. Could be server-related.
 
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I also poked around the map with developer mode enabled, and didn't encounter any errors regarding the doors. It would also be useful/helpful if people would specify the problems they encounter instead of just shrugging it off.

May be a little early, don't you think?

Would you like if i was mod :0
1.Hell no
2.hell yes
3 idc
4 Maybe
5 I would love you no matter what <3

You are not eligible to vouch for other member submissions until you are a member.
Vouch Invalid.

No fall is allowed, turning off outline isn't

so hub has created a lot of problems with projectiles, and the server has to be restarted frequently (every 30 mins- 1 hour) to solve the problem. right now the default map is Hyrule, which is a cool map, but its still in alpha so there are several bugs, and sprays don't work on any texture on the map. we have to wait ten minutes to switch maps, and with people having such a boner right now for hyrule the map is rarely switched before thirty. this makes still being on the map when the server restarts a fairly common occurence, therefore forcing us to wait another ten minutes to switch from a buggy alpha map. it's a nice map but we cant do everything there that we can on other maps, the map should stay but it shouldn't be the default. or we could try and retool the rtv wait time to make switching away a lot easier. when we restart the server as frequently as we do with these issues, the default map gets played far more than anything else, and when the default map is still in alpha it can get irritating. the restarts are sadly necessary right now but we can definitely try things out so that they arent as bad on the people playing. ive already seen quite a few people coming back less and less or not at all because they just dont want to play hyrule. we dont mind playing the same map all day, but if we do the map should be complete. because right now the restarts are a HUGE damper on fun.
 
 
inb4 no fun allowed

That doesn't sound good at all. Giving administrators the power to make subjective decisions outside of the rule set is just nonsensical. Admins should only follow a set of written rules and that's it. Hell that just sounds silly to begin with; "Spawncamping is allowed but it's not if an admin doesn't like it."

This is exactly what the rule means

To spawn a giant Dildo on the map.

+1
I knew you when you were a mod, and when you decided to kill me, and murder me, and murder me again, but +1, I agree and accept this.

You know what I think?
I think spawn camping should be left the same.

I actually agree with @John_Madden
 
it would allow spawn camping to continue but if theres every a problem we can ask it be stopped.

This being my opinion.
I've seen spawncamping as annoying, but making it a rule again won't solve the problem and is just an excuse for us staff to expand our ban list.
HOWEVER, If we must make it a rule, we can allow spawncamping to continue but a staff member may ask that you stop. After that if they keep doing it or won't stop then you can start slaying them/kicking them etc.
Proposed Rule: Spawncamping is allowed however staff members have the right to ask that you stop. If a staff member asks you to stop do not ignore their warning or you may be slayed/kicked/banned (in order after being warned) if you continue to spawn camp.
@kbraszzz @Vector @BonfireCentipede @ShockeDeel @Moosty @Kittylicious @Nomulous

Alright, the admins that are active in Trade servers can also do it, but if they're offline, Vector can do it