Osiris

Might want to check out Arena_Watchtower as well. It's a small map and just as challenging for the Hidden as for the other players. arena_watchtower (Team Fortress 2) - GameMaps Oh, and we already have Arena_Oilrig_v1 as a VSH map. Just sayin'. (It seems kinda railroad-y too, which is fine in VSH but makes killing the Hidden way too easy.)

Don't know if this has been posted already, but I just found a gameplay vid of The Hidden that might be of interest: Keep an eye out throughout the video for a certain familiar clan tag. ;) Oh, and this video also made it to the TF2 Wiki page for The Hidden, along with one of Star_'s reviews of the mod. The Hidden - Official TF2 Wiki | Official Team Fortress Wiki

Because then it feels like we're playing against just another Hale instead of the Hidden. I think we need our Hidden server to appear fresh and different from VSH, not simply a reskin of it. If there aren't distinct aesthetic differences between the two servers, we won't get as much interest since the gamemodes are (mechanically) very similar. Tl;dr: Different maps make all the difference.

Cool guy, great sniper, active on Pokemon, blablablah represents xG well. +1 A:9 M:9

I don't believe the official sequential list has been released yet, unless the team leaders received it and it isn't public knowledge yet. But I doubt they'll have changed much from last season's rotation.

So I take it Gayporneon and SiN will not be returning this season?

Alright, time to weigh in: 1. True, the Hidden would definitely be unique to our server. However, surfing is fun as hell and I don't want to get rid of it lol. Find another server to get rid of. 2. Agreed. There are a few people who still play Slender, but it gets kinda boring after awhile. Sorry to those who still think it's fun after like the 10th game, but I like my Smash Bros. more. 3. Why do we even have an idle server? There are so many others out there and now that Valve updated the drop system there isn't much point in keeping it. Replace please. 4. Substitute anything else for Unusual Trade, idc. There are very few people in xG who trade enough unusuals to actually make it worthwhile and most of them go to other unusual trade servers to do it. Thanks. ~Hero

In the Maryland-Virginia area there are some McD's with pretty bad nuggets. Occasionally they'll produce something decent but not consistently. Coincidentally, most of the employees at those McD's are immigrants who speak very little English and don't seem to really care about their job, but I don't know how much that factors into the food-making process. Then again, maybe I'm just picky.

Dude, I had the worst nightmare last night. I dreamed that McD's took a poll of all the menu items they've created over the years, and the Top 15 would become the new menu. Super Size Fries and Angus burgers made it. Chicken McNiggets didn't. :( It really depends on the McDonalds, though. Generally, either the fries are good and the nuggets are greasy and nasty, or the fries suck and the nuggets are crispy and delicious. Occasionally you get that one McD's that rocks both ways, but those are few and far between. Call me a McD's connoisseur, I suppose. ;) I know this isn't a rage post (read: derails the thread) but I thought I'd just throw that out there. Oh, and props to @Forest for starting this thread. We've needed something like this for a long time. Glad everyone was able to vent, just stop venting at each other. This is an open forum to hopefully work out your differences and make positive growth in the community, not cause more problems.

While I like the "themed" maps a lot, I agree that most of them are broken and/or sometimes confusing. Tbh, there are like two, maybe three maps on which I actually enjoy being a warden. Maybe that's why I don't play JB as much anymore ... +1 for removal.

So then what's the verdict? Looks like several members and one DM are also interested in trying this out. I'm game if you are. @kbraszzz @Ohstopyou @Moosty @Rejects @Rhododendron

Mhm. Full whitelist of weapons here: http://www.ugcleague.com/files/configs/HL_whitelist/item_whitelist_ugc_HL.txt

Here's the team as it currently stands: Team Leader: Moosty Main/Sub Scout: Flareon/? Main/Sub Sniper: Cr1TiKaL/Tomahawk Main/Sub Soldier: Gayporneon/? Main/Sub Demoman: SiN/? Main/Sub Medic: ChickenPanda/Whyte Main/Sub Heavy: Moosty/? Main/Sub Pyro: OhStopYou/Hachi Main/Sub Spy: Insane/? Main/Sub Engineer: Dethman/Hero Doesn't look like Gayporneon or SiN have responded yet, but they were on the team last season so they get preference. Both @Waimalu and @PatientZero have offered to sub Soldier. Since Whyte has ChickenPanda's endorsement, he should be the sub Medic if that hasn't been confirmed already. We also need a sub Demo just in case SiN drops -- I can sub Demo if nobody else will. Everyone else from last year's team has confirmed they're coming back (except Cr1TiKaL, who is tentative for now). @Gr8_Butt_M8 @Bryan EDIT: @Moosty -- My intention in putting this list together wasn't to undermine your position as team leader. I simply gathered everyone's comments and put them in one place for easy review. If you wish for me to refrain from future posts like this one, I will. EDIT: @Goblins -- Here's the lineup for last season's team, near as I remember it: Team Leader: Moosty Main/Sub Scout: Flareon/? Main/Sub Sniper: Cr1TiKaL/Tomahawk Main/Sub Soldier: Gayporneon/? Main/Sub Demoman: SiN/Rin Main/Sub Medic: ChickenPanda/Bach Main/Sub Heavy: Moosty/? Main/Sub Pyro: OhStopYou/Hachi Main/Sub Spy: Insane/? Main/Sub Engineer: Dethman/Hero Additionally, @kbraszzz filled in wherever needed, but usually ended up playing Engi. CoolyCooly was also on the team, but I can't recall which class he played. Link to the team roster: UGC League Gaming

@Osiris too. Not sorry. :D

Welp, 13 vouches as of this post. *14 +1 6 more to go ... A: 5 (active on forums, inactive on servers) M: 8 (kinda annoying sometimes lol)

Alright, so I know we have a lot of TF2 servers already, but I found this gamemode on a server awhile back and it's pretty fun. I haven't played it in ages so I don't know what changes (if any) have been made, but it seemed to be popular back when I played it. It's basically Super Smash Bros. for Team Fortress. I think it would be a pretty popular gamemode and a nice addition to our server list, and I suspect there are some who'd be interested in this *cough* @Kypari @Tekage @Swift *cough*. I've included links below for a further description of the mod and some videos of the gameplay. Check out the bonus videos for some TF2-themed nostalgia. Description: Smash Bros. - Official TF2 Wiki | Official Team Fortress Wiki Gameplay #1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGhmF_rlniQ Gameplay #2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvDJrSos1Zg Bonus Video #1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bbH632PSpw Bonus Video #2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJIoZASXL2c Thoughts? ~Hero Incidentally, this is the 600th thread in the TF2 Discussion forum. W00t!

Just because it's a "Pokemon" server doesn't mean we should jump at the chance to include as many Pokemon maps as we can. If it isn't well-designed (Celadon) or creates impossible win conditions (Victory Road), there's no point in including it. Just because it's Pokemon-themed doesn't make it fun to play in TF2.

It looks like the Goldenrod-Ecruteak rotation has already begun, and I'm cool with it. I was originally going to suggest we consider Saffron as well, but I definitely agree to nix Victory Road. The Pokemon Trade Server we know and love is fun because it offers something for everyone. If you want to be competitive, be competitive. If you want to be friendly and just hang out, do that. If you want to explore a cool map, go for it. Goldenrod, Ecruteak, and to a certain extent Saffron offer all those things. Celadon, while true to the original, is too long, large and empty to be fun to play competitively (although it has some pretty cool DJ-room tracks); on the other hand, Victory Road simply railroads you into competitive play. You might want to reconsider introducing Saffron (maybe you could enter it into the rotation and remove/keep it based on community feedback?), but definitely stick with Goldenrod and Ecruteak for now. Thanks for bringing this up. :) ~Hero

Sweet.

Welp, I'm game for another round. Sign me up for Engi, I'll be sub again if Deth still wants primary. And I suck much less than last time -- @Bach won't have to worry about me chillin' at spawn the whole game (but that was just one game! And I was only setting up a teleporter and stuff! Lol). Edit: Oh, I never got my badge for Season '15. Did anyone else on the team get theirs? I know the UGC guys have to do it manually, but still ... Edit: Looks like you don't want for Medics, but I'm pretty good at that too. So I'll main Engi but also be the unofficial tertiary Medic. xD

Edit: Not to dredge up past threads, but I spent like the past hour composing this proposal and wanted to put my thoughts in, but the thread JUST got locked before I could post it. If a decision has already been reached, whatever. Just wanted to voice my opinion. Lock this thread also if you deem it necessary. Alright, so based on the comments in this thread, it seems that many are in favor of a server ban, but divided on a forum or TeamSpeak ban. Apparently most of my thoughts have been voiced already, but I'll put my two cents in anyway. Just hear me out before you downvote my opinion. Many have threatened to leave if Vector is unbanned. Geez guys, do you really think that will make any difference? (I think @Chrono @xGShadowSpy @Brian @diabeetus know what I'm talking about.) I know most of you have a stake in this community or you've been burned by Vector before, but if you really care about xG then you'll stick it out regardless of who gets banned or unbanned. Personally, I think an unban of this caliber will show who the *real* Xenogamers are, but I'd rather not start that firestorm at the moment. I've played on the Pokemon Trade Server on and off for about 2 years, basically since I started playing TF2. Vector has been a butthole for quite a while, but he was still a great admin. He didn't cut corners or play favorites -- if you broke the rules he would mete out punishment accordingly. (Sure, he'd be a dick about it, but it's not like most of those guys didn't have it coming.) So even though he acted like a little turd sometimes after he was demoted, it's not like he's a paragon of evil. Geez. We all know that his behavior been tolerated for too long. He should have some kind of punishment. But a universal permban out of the blue isn't the way to do it (@Dethman @Flareon @Waimalu). I know Vector's history and I've seen his current behavior, and despite all the crap I think he deserves another shot. I think @Forest has a great proposal and I'm behind it 100%. I also agree with @Chrono and @Moosty in that 1) we need to go through the proper ban procedure (i.e. get evidence BEFORE we ban him) and 2) he needs time to cool off before we give him another shot. That said, and bearing @Forest's suggestion in mind, I have two (maybe three) proposals in mind. Both of these have been posted in one form or another already, but I'll add them anyway for convenience and clarity. The first is that we just unban him. No, I'm being serious. In this case, the staff will monitor his behavior closely, and the rest of us will treat him with respect. Don't incite him or make him lash out, but don't tiptoe around him or treat him like a pariah. Just be cool about it. If he starts something that is in fact ban-worthy, we submit it as evidence in an official player report and he's gone for good. Simple as that. The second proposal may be an easier pill to swallow for everyone involved. Treat this situation as we do an ex-member who is reapplying for membership. (A good recent example is @Vaporeon's application. Check out @metalslug53's post here: Vaporeon - Team Fortress 2 | Page 2 | Xeno Gamers) Give him a month to cool off, then unban him on the forums and let him submit a ban protest. The third proposal is kind of a combination of the two. He remains banned, but his sentence is shortened to a month. Once that time is up, he is unbanned on TeamSpeak and on the forums -- on "parole", so to speak. He can submit a ban protest or whatever, I don't really care. If he shows positive social improvement, we'll consider his ban protest and make a decision whether or not to unban him on the servers. Again, he's got only one shot at this, but we give him a legitimate chance to show improvement (see proposal #1). This whole process is kinda like "rehab" for him. If he makes us regret our decision, he gets thrown back in the can. He might shape up if he knows he's got a life sentence facing him if he doesn't. Personally, I like the third option. I just throw all these out there for you all to consider. If you have a better alternative or want to tweak one of my proposals, I'm all ears. I just think a permban simply based on past offenses isn't right. Think about it. In any justice system in real life, do we take reformed criminals and toss them back into jail just because they committed a crime a decade or two ago? No. Do we convict suspects based only on eyewitness accounts or public opinion? No. I think the same logic should be applied here. Hope you guys make the right decision. ~Hero

I've got quite a bit to say on this topic. I'll post something later, I'm at work right now and probably shouldn't be texting lol. Just don't go locking this thread anytime soon. :)

Division: Minecraft In-Game Name: Hero_of_Thyme Steam ID: (Minecraft UUID) c47401f6-17a6-46a9-9120-2b2f676434b2 Banned: No Previously in xG: Yes Active on Teamspeak: Yes Time Active: Played since before anyone really cared about it Age: 21 Further Information: I'd like to build things and improve the server ... and stuff. Y'know. Help out. Played on and off since 1.8 (the Beta 1.8 with the Adventure update, not the new version with the evil squid creatures and stuff. Haven't played that one much tbh). Helped with admin stuff and building for a bunch of other startup servers, mainly factions or Pixelmon. As for availability, I can usually help out on the weekends (or some weekdays, depending on my work schedule). Thanks! @Dethman @Hachi

Usually see him on Pokemon Trade. Dude's pretty chill. He's got my vote. +1 A: 7/10 M: 9/10

Welp, 22 vouches, 23 if you count Scoot. Lessee here, who else can resolve this? ... @kbraszzz @Moosty @metalslug53 @Ohstopyou @Rejects