Age Requirement

[NotKoala 1]

matsi just tells me to stop using the word kill.. i think?

lol wtf

[Moosty 148]

I have to say, as one of the "Higher Ups" that is accepting a good amount of the tf2 member submissions. It's really hard to find a happy medium. It's easy to complain that we're letting less than stellar vouches stand but you don't even take into consideration:

 

1) as egossi said, we don't get paid for this. Asking us to read every single vouch not only for format, but for content, keeping track of all the inevitable edits while still having an accurate count, and keeping track of how long each individual member sub has been open, and also at what time the final vouch was posted, and to not make any mistakes and be done on time. Is asking a bit too much. It will never be perfect, and that's not even a number of staff issue, it's a fact.

 

2) ^^^all of that shit isn't fair to people who are applying. I see people like @SnowyMinion and @TheSupremePatriot who both applied three times, none of their threads did that well at first, and people weren't super welcoming in them, but they both hung around, and eventually got in and are a real part of the community now. That's not common at all. Most of the time people just post an app or two and they basically just get ignored. And they feel unwanted and leave. We honestly don't accept a very high percentage, at all, of apps we get. So we (as the higher ups) have to choose between policing good vouches and people getting in all the time. Because we all know that people don't double check the threads, and a vouch or two will stay invalid, and that person won't get in because of it. Those of us who are higher ups have to make judgement calls on who gets in already. If you're going to complain about that are you going to complain we didn't follow the rules to a T or are you going to complain we made bad calls. Because we've already made quite a few judgement calls in both divisions. You can go back and check who those members we're, most if not all were great additions.

 

I think DM+ can be trusted with making the right calls, it's why we're here. And all the higher ups want is for this clan to grow. I can't speak for CS:GO but tf2 vouches are usually pretty solid. If I've seen a re occurring problem it's people just straight up not being welcoming. Being demanding and rude instead of nicely explaining the rules if people have the tag on before joining. Just not touching or even cracking a joke if a sub gets made and the person hasn't been around very long. People hardly ever invite people to teamspeak, or ask what server someone plays on, or just be nice at all. Changing that would bring in a lot more members than lowering the age limit.

[Hidingmaster 19]

I'll post a longer thing when I get home.

 

But.

 

You can submit member protests all you want for whatever reason, but of course we are gonna ask for proof of the accusations (fun fact:that's how court works). And no, we aren't going to simply approve it based on a majority vote; it's too easy to gang up on someone and unfairly remove them. If you have such a hard time giving us evidence.. then what's the problem? Oh that's right, it's just a vendetta.

 

Also, I will be looking for member vouches that do not follow the guidelines. Those that don't will receive a forum warning and asked to change it.

[Egossi 1017]

(fun fact:that's how court works)

this is not court, its an online gaming community

 

it's too easy to gang up on someone and unfairly remove them.

don't you think people would have a point if they are literally teaming up to kick that one guy out?

and i don't really see anything unfair at all, if any of the accusations were made incorrectly against them, they can just provide evidence or a defense statement to defend themselves

Edited December 11, 2015 by Guest (see edit history)

[Ohstopyou 42]

I let two 15-year-olds in because they had already waited long enough (one donated when he was 14) and they have proven to be very mature and have a high activity time on the servers. I consulted with Scoot, the DMs, and Kbraszzle before hand and they were okay with it.

 

I don't think we should lower the age limit, but I agree with Owl. Exceptions should be made on a case by case basis.

[Ohstopyou 42]

Problem solved (?) @Rhododendron @Hidingmaster @kbraszzz

 

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[realBelloWaldi 1245]

I don't think we should lower the age limit [...] Exceptions should be made on a case by case basis.

Yes yes yes yes yes. This so much. (y)

[Tsuchikure 38]

this is not court, its an online gaming community

don't you think people would have a point if they are literally teaming up to kick that one guy out?

and i don't really see anything unfair at all, if any of the accusations were made incorrectly against them, they can just provide evidence or a defense statement to defend themselves

Welp, here's where the loop starts again.

Anyways, how did we get on topic of member protests? Is it a side-addition if we update member applications? Isn't this a thread about allowing more (hopefully mature) people into the clan?

 

Back on topic, I think it's fine to allow some exceptions providing they have proven they can handle things and are mature enough, unless what Nomulous said is as serious as he tries to make it out to be..

But I honestly can't see too many parents (Aside from forests) actually doing more than preventing them from going on the site again, especially if an age dropdown (as suggested by Hidingmaster) is there. This is, of course, assuming that they actually give two craps what we do here. (don't hold me on this)

[Ohstopyou 42]

Welp, here's where the loop starts again.

Anyways, how did we get on topic of member protests? Is it a side-addition if we update member applications? Isn't this a thread about allowing more (hopefully mature) people into the clan?

 

Back on topic, I think it's fine to allow some exceptions providing they have proven they can handle things and are mature enough, unless what Nomulous said is as serious as he tries to make it out to be..

But I honestly can't see too many parents (Aside from forests) actually doing more than preventing them from going on the site again, especially if an age dropdown (as suggested by Hidingmaster) is there. This is, of course, assuming that they actually give two craps what we do here. (don't hold me on this)

It's the responsibility of the parents to monitor what their children do on the internet, so I agree with you.

 

We are not their keepers.

[Rhododendron 994]

Problem solved (?) @Rhododendron @Hidingmaster @kbraszzz

 

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Just needs to be formatted better and appended to our current TOS and it should be good!

[Ohstopyou 42]

Just needs to be formatted better and appended to our current TOS and it should be good!

Feel free to change it to your liking. I just figured that might make it easier.

[Jadow 194]

But at the age of 13 aren't people more immature?

[xGShadowSpy 108]

But at the age of 13 aren't people more immature?

Le sigh

[Snackbar 38]

Closed as this was resolved