Brian

Hello, for most of you that know me, I'm back! For those that do not, I used to run the servers for around a year before @Nomulous, when I left to focus more on high school in order to get into the college I wanted to. I'm back, and I'm here to post my thoughts on changes that need to occur in order to solve the issue of money as well as making players stay on our servers. Take everything you see with a grain of salt, this is simply one man's opinions.





New Servers

The new servers, such as Freak Fortress 2 and Wario Ware are great servers, but there's much work needed to be done. In order to limit the amount of criticism taken from an unfinished server, I recommend either putting a password on the server and set a deadline for completion, such as next week Monday, or putting up advertisements stating the server is in Beta. Many plugins are missing on Freak Fortress, and I understand bosses may always be added, but there are a few basic plugins missing, such as



[TF2] The Amplifier - AlliedModders
[TF2]TauntCrits - AlliedModders
And other fixes, such as Goomba Stomp killing hale in 1 shot

These plugin need to be added sooner than later, and plenty of randoms have already joined the server, but have left either due to boredom or lack of originality. Many servers have a sticking feature, something that helps people come back. We have one. It's called hub.
 


Hub Plugin
Hub is the main feature of our servers, and after nearly two years of false promises, it's here on TF2. On some of the servers. And you can only buy some stuff on some servers. This needs to be fixed immediately. This should be the number one priority if you're worried about population. Having certain parts work on some parts here and there doesn't cut it. It needs to work on all servers in order to be successful. Please fix this issue by getting everything on all servers, especially the popular ones.
 


Donations
Nearly every single community accepts donations of some kind. Some communities have more effective means than others. The current donation system is horrid, with little explanation given to each tier. By that, I mean there's no way to learn what each tier gives you without going directly on the forums and searching for it, which puts off a lot of people. The current prices are also high. The top donation is 20 keys. The average key price a key is sold for on source-op is around 1.90$, give or take a few cents. That is about $38.00 for the maximum donation. It's stupid high, and almost out of reach for any given player. I guarantee you will see a maximum of one or two of these types of donations, if any at all.


What I recommend doing instead is putting all donation features on hub, like colorme, skeleton, and other plugins on the hub for a certain price, and
change it back to the old system, where donations give you a certain number of hub credits. 1 key or 20 keys will give hub credits. Also, accepting monetary donations would be better as well. Here's a sample conversion chart.

1$ = 1,000 Credits
1 Key = 1,750 Credits
10$ = 12,500 Credits
10 Keys = 20,000 Credits
and so on....

Then, make certain benefits, such as skeleton cost 2,500 credits, maybe more or less. This way it is still reachable for certain members that are active on the servers, but not too ridiculously expensive for those that wish to donate can't purchase in one go.
 


Admin Behavior
The strictness of certain admins has come to my attention recently. An admin is somebody who is supposed to set an example and punish those who break server rules, not to do what ever they please and ban those who offend them with the reason "admin disrespect." The order goes gag, kick, ban, not an immediate ban for one comment. I recently was banned for making a comment, no warning, or gag, not even a kick. SO please, if an admin is handing out bans for all the wrong reasons, such as to protect their ego, please discuss this with them. Many admins feel they may run rampant, and I understand that they are allowed more freedom, but banning and kicking without warning is a major issue that needs to be confronted.
 


Closing Thoughts
Xeno Gamers has always been a community that provides fun for those that wish to find it, but recently I feel we have drifted away from that and focused too much on money, and less on fun. We need to find at least a balance of those two, in order to prevent the community from collapsing on itself. Thanks for reading.
 

by not being a preteen faggot. kid. "hao" was for 14 yr olds back years ago. nobody uses that shit anymore.

why is this shitpost in general @kbraszzz ?

As long as it actually does things, why not :)

Can we start setting deadlines for servers to be up? I, for one, do not enjoying waiting 2 months for a server to be created, especially when no custom plug-ins or maps are being added. It's embarrassing that we have so many unused or incomplete servers that could so easily be finished with just some effort.
 
Why not set deadlines for certain divisions or division leaders, or some shit.
 
rip darkrp

Can we start setting deadlines for servers to be up? I, for one, do not enjoying waiting 2 months for a server to be created, especially when no custom plug-ins or maps are being added. It's embarrassing that we have so many unused or incomplete servers that could so easily be finished with just some effort.
 
Why not set deadlines for certain divisions or division leaders, or some shit.
 
rip darkrp

Can we start setting deadlines for servers to be up? I, for one, do not enjoying waiting 2 months for a server to be created, especially when no custom plug-ins or maps are being added. It's embarrassing that we have so many unused or incomplete servers that could so easily be finished with just some effort.
 
Why not set deadlines for certain divisions or division leaders, or some shit.
 
rip darkrp

Can we start setting deadlines for servers to be up? I, for one, do not enjoying waiting 2 months for a server to be created, especially when no custom plug-ins or maps are being added. It's embarrassing that we have so many unused or incomplete servers that could so easily be finished with just some effort.
 
Why not set deadlines for certain divisions or division leaders, or some shit.
 
rip darkrp

How about no one cares. There was already a thread for this pathetic stuff.

Can we start setting deadlines for servers to be up? I, for one, do not enjoying waiting 2 months for a server to be created, especially when no custom plug-ins or maps are being added. It's embarrassing that we have so many unused or incomplete servers that could so easily be finished with just some effort.
 
Why not set deadlines for certain divisions or division leaders, or some shit.
 
rip darkrp

Hello, for most of you that know me, I'm back! For those that do not, I used to run the servers for around a year before @Nomulous, when I left to focus more on high school in order to get into the college I wanted to. I'm back, and I'm here to post my thoughts on changes that need to occur in order to solve the issue of money as well as making players stay on our servers. Take everything you see with a grain of salt, this is simply one man's opinions.





New Servers

The new servers, such as Freak Fortress 2 and Wario Ware are great servers, but there's much work needed to be done. In order to limit the amount of criticism taken from an unfinished server, I recommend either putting a password on the server and set a deadline for completion, such as next week Monday, or putting up advertisements stating the server is in Beta. Many plugins are missing on Freak Fortress, and I understand bosses may always be added, but there are a few basic plugins missing, such as



[TF2] The Amplifier - AlliedModders
[TF2]TauntCrits - AlliedModders
And other fixes, such as Goomba Stomp killing hale in 1 shot

These plugin need to be added sooner than later, and plenty of randoms have already joined the server, but have left either due to boredom or lack of originality. Many servers have a sticking feature, something that helps people come back. We have one. It's called hub.
 


Hub Plugin
Hub is the main feature of our servers, and after nearly two years of false promises, it's here on TF2. On some of the servers. And you can only buy some stuff on some servers. This needs to be fixed immediately. This should be the number one priority if you're worried about population. Having certain parts work on some parts here and there doesn't cut it. It needs to work on all servers in order to be successful. Please fix this issue by getting everything on all servers, especially the popular ones.
 


Donations
Nearly every single community accepts donations of some kind. Some communities have more effective means than others. The current donation system is horrid, with little explanation given to each tier. By that, I mean there's no way to learn what each tier gives you without going directly on the forums and searching for it, which puts off a lot of people. The current prices are also high. The top donation is 20 keys. The average key price a key is sold for on source-op is around 1.90$, give or take a few cents. That is about $38.00 for the maximum donation. It's stupid high, and almost out of reach for any given player. I guarantee you will see a maximum of one or two of these types of donations, if any at all.


What I recommend doing instead is putting all donation features on hub, like colorme, skeleton, and other plugins on the hub for a certain price, and
change it back to the old system, where donations give you a certain number of hub credits. 1 key or 20 keys will give hub credits. Also, accepting monetary donations would be better as well. Here's a sample conversion chart.

1$ = 1,000 Credits
1 Key = 1,750 Credits
10$ = 12,500 Credits
10 Keys = 20,000 Credits
and so on....

Then, make certain benefits, such as skeleton cost 2,500 credits, maybe more or less. This way it is still reachable for certain members that are active on the servers, but not too ridiculously expensive for those that wish to donate can't purchase in one go.
 


Admin Behavior
The strictness of certain admins has come to my attention recently. An admin is somebody who is supposed to set an example and punish those who break server rules, not to do what ever they please and ban those who offend them with the reason "admin disrespect." The order goes gag, kick, ban, not an immediate ban for one comment. I recently was banned for making a comment, no warning, or gag, not even a kick. SO please, if an admin is handing out bans for all the wrong reasons, such as to protect their ego, please discuss this with them. Many admins feel they may run rampant, and I understand that they are allowed more freedom, but banning and kicking without warning is a major issue that needs to be confronted.
 


Closing Thoughts
Xeno Gamers has always been a community that provides fun for those that wish to find it, but recently I feel we have drifted away from that and focused too much on money, and less on fun. We need to find at least a balance of those two, in order to prevent the community from collapsing on itself. Thanks for reading.
 

You guys are taking the donation suggestion the wrong way, and I agree with Brian on it. Having bundles costing so much makes it seem unattainable for most players, and it makes people think it's not worth staying on the server for. However, if the hub system was choice over bundle (*cough*csgo hub system *cough*) I feel more people would want to stay and grind for those credits, instead of seeing a goal as high as uber donator status, even though they may only like one or two of the benefits that come with it. Also, once you get that uber bundle, what reason is there for a regular to stay on the server other than using those perks for a day or two? With the individual perk system, theres more reason for those regulars to want to play on the server, it gives a sort of goal for players to strive towards.
There really is no reason to be upset over a suggesion :(

Hello, for most of you that know me, I'm back! For those that do not, I used to run the servers for around a year before @Nomulous, when I left to focus more on high school in order to get into the college I wanted to. I'm back, and I'm here to post my thoughts on changes that need to occur in order to solve the issue of money as well as making players stay on our servers. Take everything you see with a grain of salt, this is simply one man's opinions.





New Servers

The new servers, such as Freak Fortress 2 and Wario Ware are great servers, but there's much work needed to be done. In order to limit the amount of criticism taken from an unfinished server, I recommend either putting a password on the server and set a deadline for completion, such as next week Monday, or putting up advertisements stating the server is in Beta. Many plugins are missing on Freak Fortress, and I understand bosses may always be added, but there are a few basic plugins missing, such as



[TF2] The Amplifier - AlliedModders
[TF2]TauntCrits - AlliedModders
And other fixes, such as Goomba Stomp killing hale in 1 shot

These plugin need to be added sooner than later, and plenty of randoms have already joined the server, but have left either due to boredom or lack of originality. Many servers have a sticking feature, something that helps people come back. We have one. It's called hub.
 


Hub Plugin
Hub is the main feature of our servers, and after nearly two years of false promises, it's here on TF2. On some of the servers. And you can only buy some stuff on some servers. This needs to be fixed immediately. This should be the number one priority if you're worried about population. Having certain parts work on some parts here and there doesn't cut it. It needs to work on all servers in order to be successful. Please fix this issue by getting everything on all servers, especially the popular ones.
 


Donations
Nearly every single community accepts donations of some kind. Some communities have more effective means than others. The current donation system is horrid, with little explanation given to each tier. By that, I mean there's no way to learn what each tier gives you without going directly on the forums and searching for it, which puts off a lot of people. The current prices are also high. The top donation is 20 keys. The average key price a key is sold for on source-op is around 1.90$, give or take a few cents. That is about $38.00 for the maximum donation. It's stupid high, and almost out of reach for any given player. I guarantee you will see a maximum of one or two of these types of donations, if any at all.


What I recommend doing instead is putting all donation features on hub, like colorme, skeleton, and other plugins on the hub for a certain price, and
change it back to the old system, where donations give you a certain number of hub credits. 1 key or 20 keys will give hub credits. Also, accepting monetary donations would be better as well. Here's a sample conversion chart.

1$ = 1,000 Credits
1 Key = 1,750 Credits
10$ = 12,500 Credits
10 Keys = 20,000 Credits
and so on....

Then, make certain benefits, such as skeleton cost 2,500 credits, maybe more or less. This way it is still reachable for certain members that are active on the servers, but not too ridiculously expensive for those that wish to donate can't purchase in one go.
 


Admin Behavior
The strictness of certain admins has come to my attention recently. An admin is somebody who is supposed to set an example and punish those who break server rules, not to do what ever they please and ban those who offend them with the reason "admin disrespect." The order goes gag, kick, ban, not an immediate ban for one comment. I recently was banned for making a comment, no warning, or gag, not even a kick. SO please, if an admin is handing out bans for all the wrong reasons, such as to protect their ego, please discuss this with them. Many admins feel they may run rampant, and I understand that they are allowed more freedom, but banning and kicking without warning is a major issue that needs to be confronted.
 


Closing Thoughts
Xeno Gamers has always been a community that provides fun for those that wish to find it, but recently I feel we have drifted away from that and focused too much on money, and less on fun. We need to find at least a balance of those two, in order to prevent the community from collapsing on itself. Thanks for reading.
 

I don't get why you're "upset" about the system, It's fine and it has been working fine since it came out, There's nothing wrong with the Donation System and it does not need changing.

It's not even for the powers. As Forge mentioned, it's for the servers and xG as a whole. I enjoy playing on the servers and hence why I even applied with xG in the first place. If I pay a small fee to assist them to stay up? I'm down.

I strongly disagree with you on the donation stuff... 20 keys for the highest level isn't "too much" and for people who cant afford that they can get a lower tier, and gradually upgrade over time... I think it will be stupid to lower the prices because then everyone will have it and it wont be worth having.
 
"focused too much on money" LOLWUT?! You obviously have never been in a clan that makes you pay per month to have admin! xG is as far from focused on money as a gaming community can be.... and if you think that offering bonus stuff for donations is focused on money than you should take the time to figure out how much it costs to run all the servers that xG has...

"The average key price a key is sold for on source-op is around 1.90$, give or take a few cents. That is about $38.00 for the maximum donation. It's stupid high, and almost out of reach for any given player. I guarantee you will see a maximum of one or two of these types of donations, if any at all."
 
So if there's only one or two that means.. Starfishprime69, FoRgE, Slinkerton, Izanagi, BelloWaldi, Kypari, Egossi, Matsi, Bach, Gugomo, Didn't donate within the first few weeks and never have donated which is incorrect. This isn't even a full list but it's what I have.
 
"but recently I feel we have drifted away from that and focused too much on money"

What.. Perhaps you didn't notice but the servers have been struggling to get money so they can be hosted, The money goes to the servers so it can continue to stay online, The donations are helping far more than you think.

-1 i didn't enjoy my time playing the game. gl tho m8y

Hello, for most of you that know me, I'm back! For those that do not, I used to run the servers for around a year before @Nomulous, when I left to focus more on high school in order to get into the college I wanted to. I'm back, and I'm here to post my thoughts on changes that need to occur in order to solve the issue of money as well as making players stay on our servers. Take everything you see with a grain of salt, this is simply one man's opinions.





New Servers

The new servers, such as Freak Fortress 2 and Wario Ware are great servers, but there's much work needed to be done. In order to limit the amount of criticism taken from an unfinished server, I recommend either putting a password on the server and set a deadline for completion, such as next week Monday, or putting up advertisements stating the server is in Beta. Many plugins are missing on Freak Fortress, and I understand bosses may always be added, but there are a few basic plugins missing, such as



[TF2] The Amplifier - AlliedModders
[TF2]TauntCrits - AlliedModders
And other fixes, such as Goomba Stomp killing hale in 1 shot

These plugin need to be added sooner than later, and plenty of randoms have already joined the server, but have left either due to boredom or lack of originality. Many servers have a sticking feature, something that helps people come back. We have one. It's called hub.
 


Hub Plugin
Hub is the main feature of our servers, and after nearly two years of false promises, it's here on TF2. On some of the servers. And you can only buy some stuff on some servers. This needs to be fixed immediately. This should be the number one priority if you're worried about population. Having certain parts work on some parts here and there doesn't cut it. It needs to work on all servers in order to be successful. Please fix this issue by getting everything on all servers, especially the popular ones.
 


Donations
Nearly every single community accepts donations of some kind. Some communities have more effective means than others. The current donation system is horrid, with little explanation given to each tier. By that, I mean there's no way to learn what each tier gives you without going directly on the forums and searching for it, which puts off a lot of people. The current prices are also high. The top donation is 20 keys. The average key price a key is sold for on source-op is around 1.90$, give or take a few cents. That is about $38.00 for the maximum donation. It's stupid high, and almost out of reach for any given player. I guarantee you will see a maximum of one or two of these types of donations, if any at all.


What I recommend doing instead is putting all donation features on hub, like colorme, skeleton, and other plugins on the hub for a certain price, and
change it back to the old system, where donations give you a certain number of hub credits. 1 key or 20 keys will give hub credits. Also, accepting monetary donations would be better as well. Here's a sample conversion chart.

1$ = 1,000 Credits
1 Key = 1,750 Credits
10$ = 12,500 Credits
10 Keys = 20,000 Credits
and so on....

Then, make certain benefits, such as skeleton cost 2,500 credits, maybe more or less. This way it is still reachable for certain members that are active on the servers, but not too ridiculously expensive for those that wish to donate can't purchase in one go.
 


Admin Behavior
The strictness of certain admins has come to my attention recently. An admin is somebody who is supposed to set an example and punish those who break server rules, not to do what ever they please and ban those who offend them with the reason "admin disrespect." The order goes gag, kick, ban, not an immediate ban for one comment. I recently was banned for making a comment, no warning, or gag, not even a kick. SO please, if an admin is handing out bans for all the wrong reasons, such as to protect their ego, please discuss this with them. Many admins feel they may run rampant, and I understand that they are allowed more freedom, but banning and kicking without warning is a major issue that needs to be confronted.
 


Closing Thoughts
Xeno Gamers has always been a community that provides fun for those that wish to find it, but recently I feel we have drifted away from that and focused too much on money, and less on fun. We need to find at least a balance of those two, in order to prevent the community from collapsing on itself. Thanks for reading.
 

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Apparently, you are no longer allowed to make fun of Brits on xG's servers. This is literally all I said in chat. He said if I wanted to be banned, I thought he was joking, then I make a reference to how America became America and he bans me. Nice 200 year grudge.
 
I honestly didn't mean any harm, and anybody else could see I was messing around.
 
Stuff like this, too strict admins that is, prevents growth in xG.

Division:

Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name:

Brian Steam ID:

STEAM_0:0:34560453 Information:


 
Apparently, you are no longer allowed to make fun of Brits on xG's servers. This is literally all I said in chat. He said if I wanted to be banned, I thought he was joking, then I make a reference to how America became America and he bans me. Nice 200 year grudge.
 
I honestly didn't mean any harm, and anybody else could see I was messing around.
 
Stuff like this, too strict admins that is, prevents growth in xG.

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