Forest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Dg-g7t2l4

I don't think it could have been ignored to begin with though. Users literally cannot submit a Staff Submission without donating; they don't gain access to the actual submission form page to submit one without having donated first. That is, if you're a new user, and you click on "Post a New Thread" in the Moderator Submission section, it will (or rather, would) lead you to an error page that says they don't have the necessary permissions. So, anyone who ever posted a Staff Submission post donation change back then, was already eligible for a Staff rank. Higher-Ups didn't really have to look into their donation history at all. That being said, this is only assuming that once someone donates they are automatically given Donator rank (without a Higher-Up having to assign it to them). Though I agree with Scoot, what's done is done. It's no longer a thing, so lets just bury the hatchet :coffee:

Addition/Alterations* Title is now hyper-linked to our Game Servers hub.

Ew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M

Blatant intentional mass free kill followed by disconnection. Permanent Server ban should be dealt :coffee:

From my perspective, there are a few reasons why Staff Submissions are still a thing: [spoiler=Staff Submissions] 1. Community Input It's always important to heed what the community has to say about something, whether it be in regards to a rule change or new Staff Member(s). Reason being that it introduces a third party to provide their input on the matter; an outside perspective that may differ from that of a Higher-Up's. It also gives players/users who only have Member status a chance to give their input on something that may very well influence the Servers (or even clan). In other words, it gives the 'Member' rank an important air around it whereas a 'Registered' user's input wouldn't be as influential. Such is the case with every other form of application/protest in terms of 'Member' influence. 2. Inadequacy/Shortage of Staff During times where the Staff pool is shallow, the application process becomes crucial in boosting those numbers. It allows Higher-Ups to specifically monitor potential applicants as opposed to having to determine who is deserving of a position. It also eliminates the potential of a player declining the offer to become a Moderator/Administrator as an applicant wants to have the position. This can really cut down on the time it would take to promote new Staff since not only would there be community input to aid in developing a portfolio of the applicant, but as aforementioned, the Higher-Ups can eliminate one step (finding potential applicants) which can take anywhere from a few days to a week or more. Long story short, it [potentially] cuts down on the time spent trying to find new Staff. 3. Establishing Interest in Player There are times where players who have an extensive knowledge of the Server rules slip through the cracks and are never really noticed by the Higher-Ups. However unlikely, this is bound to happen, and when it does it makes these applications a chance at getting that player's name out there. Even if that player's application is denied, it still gives the Higher-Ups an option down the road should they be lacking in Staff. 4. Extra Income This one is a given, it's what we're all discussing at the moment. Every little bit helps, even if it's a "donation" of $5 toward gaining the ability to post a Staff Submission. In the end, having the option to submit an application is better than not having the option at all; even if players are inclined to "donate" (still really think this should be considered a fee). That all being said, I brought this up in a comment and I'm interested to know whether Paid Moderator/Administrator positions are still a thing @Rhododendron . If so, I recommend an addition of it be made in the "Moderator Submission Rules" thread (maybe a discussion had on whether it should still be a thing or not among the Higher-Ups; and if so whether it should have some sort of rules). Also still curious on a before/after of the Moderator Rules, honestly can't tell what is new and what isn't. EDIT: Also noticed that the rule on "donations" was reworded which is great, but it is still hiding the fact that you have to donate in order to post a Staff Submission in the first place ("weighing favourably" is like saying "it wouldn't hurt to", but it is actually necessary in order to post a Staff Submission to begin with and may confuse Players/Members). *Note: This is assuming that Players are still unable to actually post a Staff Submission, if they are able to now (non-donators now have access to the Staff Submission form), then please disregard this edit. Another EDIT: Hate to be an annoyance, I know this post is long enough as it is, but for the record; if a Higher-Up could post what they've changed or included in threads like the "Moderator Rule" one, it would be greatly appreciated as opposed to just making an edit and expecting everyone to know about it afterwards without little to no warning or announcements.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4taIpALfAo

You're misunderstanding what a donation essentially is. A donation is a contribution made to benefit a cause, in this case to further the growth of Xeno Gamers. That's great and all, but donating is typically done of free-will and not because someone is obliged to do it. In this scenario, in order to just apply for Staff Membership, a user has to donate. There are no 'ifs' 'ands' or 'buts', if you don't "donate" then you don't have the privilege to apply for Staff. This, in and of itself, isn't donating. It's just masking the underlying "if you want this perk, you have to pay to get it" mentality. No matter how it's worded, people are being forced to have to pay to submit a Staff Application, plain and simple. I get that it's a way to deter any 'bad' applicants and it keeps those who actually care about the community in mind, but I just don't agree with labeling it "donating" when it really isn't. At the very least, it should be reworded to emphasize that it's a one-time fee, not a donation. All that aside, I'm curious to know (I asked in Shout Box last night but didn't see a reply) if there is a before/after comparison of the updates, or if the changes could be highlighted in some way so that Members can compare? Also, @Stickz for his opinion on the matter (assuming he has not been made aware) as there is a thread in the Nuclear Dawn division that does not require donations for Staff Submissions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RHFFeQ2tu4

There once was a happy-go-lucky chap by the name of- Phoenix, who once was accommodated for- Being amazing at his job while at the same time- Stole cookies form the grade schoolers,- That he resales laced with- Laxatives, so the consumers- Can suffer on their way to the toilet just to find out that- The local sewer system stopped running, rendering all local plumbing to fail, someone went to check it out only to find- That there was a strange figure who somehow blocked all of the sewage. That figure was none other than- Scootaloo, who was working on- The biggest meme filled promo/demo! which was- His next murder, chopping up the body and building dam with the body parts clogging the sewer. He noticed the man who investigated the sewers and- Realized that the man is actually the devastatingly handsome and seductive- Lithium, the man the town loathed, what does it all mean? The cookies, the murders, the sewers?- Could it be that Scootaloo was prepearing the biggest fudgepost ever presented to the mankind, and he was killing people to accomplish such an achivement? Or perhaps it was- The next part of "50 Shades of Oof," which was about- Sexual stuff that involves cucumbers, a morning star, and - Absolutely nothing else. It seemed that he had been mistaken in thinking that his fantasies were appropriate to discuss here, and so- The guy and Scootaloo had some great Oof love written for "50 Shades of Oof Part 5" The guy ran out of the sewers and created- a 5th version of forum games because this one died on Friday. the End of the game is what he thought he had escaped from, but alas, it was a ruse and he found himself still entrapped in its claws. In a rage fueled huff, he decided to call- the Poison Control center, because this game is very- deadly to those who decide to go and- attempt to end it sooner than later. Alas, he had misdialed and to his great dismay, had called-

Pretty sure I'm Nintendo... Right?

Fresh Prince of Bel Air Theme song from.. Fresh Prince of Bel Air. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM5-i9NH0tM "Mama, just killed a man Put a gun against his head, pulled my trigger now he's dead Mama, life had just begun But now I've gone and thrown in all away"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZbkF-15ObM

Gmod Server List has been updated: - Previous Server in Gmod List did not include the NA tag; has now been included Additions/Alterations* > Morbus NA <192.223.30.49:27015> > Morbus EU <82.163.79.241:27015>

Warriorsfury - Counter-Strike: Source

Giving it a listen right now, can say that I like what I hear. Thanks for the suggestions! Here, you can have one too:

The problem here is that it appears that you aren't open to criticism in any shape or form. At the first sign of criticism, you take it personally and then verbally attack whomever posted without even considering their opinion. Case in point, your reaction to an otherwise valid opinion: Rather than immediately posting a rebuttal or reacting in a destructive way, you can reflect on what they have to offer in terms of opinions on your behaviour/attitude and choose to improve said-behaviour/attitude. You are literally picking a fight with anyone and everyone who mentions something bad about you, and then wondering why people are reacting the way they are in this thread. My suggestion(s) to you is/are the following: Learn to listen to and accept constructive criticism. Determine when a reply is necessary or if it will just exacerbate things. Step away from the thread and calm down before posting; if you're upset or otherwise angry, it will not help the situation. Keep in mind that what people say about you are only opinions, they are not facts, so do not treat it as such. Take a more passive approach to things. If you disagree with someone, ask them why they feel that way without berating or insulting them. Chances are they will be more receptive in listening to you and it will greatly defuse the situation. This all may seem irrelevant to the Ban Protest at hand, but I can assure you that your behaviour/attitude directly correlates with it since you seem to be a very argumentative person (which can get you banned), especially in the presence of a Staff Member.

Predator Day

Nuclear Dawn Server List has been updated: Additions/Alterations* > Bootcamp UK | Rookie Friendly <82.163.79.241:27017> > Redstone | London (UK) <82.163.79.241:27025>

That all being said, could each Division Leader let me know that the Server List is currently up-to-date for their respective Division? If not, could you please reply with the name of the Server as well as its IP (either comment or post will do)? Thanks in advance.