Barmithian

k, but league is still best moba :^)
 
inb4 you got carried to diamond

I'm going solely based off of evidence here.
 
I honestly am a bit disappointed in this thread. Putting Nazi in his name and avatar is a bit distasteful, but its nothing to throw a fit about. Putting a swastika (or however you spell it) in his status isn't really a big deal either. I feel like most of this stuff is in a joking matter. He hasn't said anything about killing jews or any form of racism. How is this different from @ThePenguin building a swastika on the minecraft server? We always call @Yu_Narukami a Nazi on teamspeak, but we don't seriously mean it. I understand how you guys see this as offensive, but doing this for 12 hours (as he claims) is not CLOSE to being worthy of member demotion. If our community really feels that they are offended, its better to just warn him.
 
My vote is -1 (If it even matters anymore now that I am not a member)

I have come to say that y'all need jesus.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crUa3_TOtTs
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET_iC6_2b5I

Changing numbers in the system always changes things. Whether it is huge or small change.
 
One example of why the age requirement should stay:
In America 16 years of age shows gives a lot of things in life. Federal law appoints you to be able to drive, and you're also considered an adult in the court system (which is pretty big). You can make more decisions as a 16-year-old, compared to someone who is 15 and below. This alone gives more reason to raise the bar on the age requirement. Assuming that when people submit ban appeals/request, member submissions/protests, or participate in the community in general you'll have whole different range of debate. Meaning that things might actually be done with better responses, instead of a shotty reason and a "+1".
 
Also statistically, 16-year-olds are more mature than humans that are below the age of 16 in a general population. You can't give a rebuttal with examples like Kypari, Tekage, and Shogun Yao. Them themselves in the general population of xG aren't a large enough number of people to really pull the age requirement down. Essentially they are the one percent.

If you play casuarina you are a scrub.

You know what they say. It's not gay if it's in a three way.

How long was the ban? Anything more than an hour probably wasn't needed

Fudging grave digger. :nerd:

If you play casuarina you are a scrub.

Get meme'ed on kid. You can never kill us.

The Benefits of Being an Illuminati
 
While many people are unaware of the power of the Illuminati, that does not diminish the powerful dedication that they have in creating a better world for everyone. While people today are focused on wealth and caring for their own families, the Illuminati focus on courage, skills, honor, intelligence, on a worldwide scale. The ultimate goal of all Illuminati is to change the world for the better. Here are just a few of the benefits of being an Illuminati.
 
1. If you are an Illuminati and you have a task that needs to be completed, you can be assured other Illuminati will rise to the occasion and help you to achieve that goal. They will use every resource that they have to contribute to the campaign. When work has to be done, you can count of your fellow Illuminati to be there to get your back.
 
2. When it comes to getting a job accomplished, an Illuminati understand the power of using their resources conservatively. This means that they simply do not through everything at a project in the hopes for a favorable outcome. The Illuminati will pace themselves and preserve those resources in an effort to getting the job completed successfully.
 
3. The Illuminati is not all about having a positive attitude. They take on challenges head on and in the event they do not reach the goal, they do not let that setback affect how they attack the project. One setback is seen as minor, they simply realize what went wrong and make the appropriate corrections until the job has been performed.
 
 
4. As an Illuminati you do not get all wrapped up in all those discussions about being racist. To an Illuminati there is no such thing as discrimination due to your sexual beliefs, your skin color, or how famous you are. The Illuminati is focused on achieving a goal and all people are considered equals during those efforts. The time wasted on racist tendencies can only hurt the efforts of the campaign.
 
5. As an Illuminati you take great pride in the family unit. The utmost importance is placed on helping the family and protecting them at all costs. No Illuminati will ever sell out another member of the family by airing dirty laundry in public. The same can be said for the country. The Illuminati takes great pride in their country and will not put their fellow countrymen in harms way by revealing information that can be deemed hurtful in any way.

The Benefits of Being an Illuminati
 
While many people are unaware of the power of the Illuminati, that does not diminish the powerful dedication that they have in creating a better world for everyone. While people today are focused on wealth and caring for their own families, the Illuminati focus on courage, skills, honor, intelligence, on a worldwide scale. The ultimate goal of all Illuminati is to change the world for the better. Here are just a few of the benefits of being an Illuminati.
 
1. If you are an Illuminati and you have a task that needs to be completed, you can be assured other Illuminati will rise to the occasion and help you to achieve that goal. They will use every resource that they have to contribute to the campaign. When work has to be done, you can count of your fellow Illuminati to be there to get your back.
 
2. When it comes to getting a job accomplished, an Illuminati understand the power of using their resources conservatively. This means that they simply do not through everything at a project in the hopes for a favorable outcome. The Illuminati will pace themselves and preserve those resources in an effort to getting the job completed successfully.
 
3. The Illuminati is not all about having a positive attitude. They take on challenges head on and in the event they do not reach the goal, they do not let that setback affect how they attack the project. One setback is seen as minor, they simply realize what went wrong and make the appropriate corrections until the job has been performed.
 
 
4. As an Illuminati you do not get all wrapped up in all those discussions about being racist. To an Illuminati there is no such thing as discrimination due to your sexual beliefs, your skin color, or how famous you are. The Illuminati is focused on achieving a goal and all people are considered equals during those efforts. The time wasted on racist tendencies can only hurt the efforts of the campaign.
 
5. As an Illuminati you take great pride in the family unit. The utmost importance is placed on helping the family and protecting them at all costs. No Illuminati will ever sell out another member of the family by airing dirty laundry in public. The same can be said for the country. The Illuminati takes great pride in their country and will not put their fellow countrymen in harms way by revealing information that can be deemed hurtful in any way.

Dang this thread is hella funny. Some of the people who wanted him to stay banned previously stated he kept the servers alive on his own.
 
Anyways I don't have a lot to say right now, but he probably shouldn't have been permed randomly out of the blue.

"Not sugar coating" things doesn't mean being racist. Ironically, your phrase "difference in opinion" is sugar coating your hostility and racism towards them. There is never an ok time to be seriously racist. I'm pretty sure this whole conflict started because you were attacking them because you didn't like young kids in the clan and then when they retaliated, you called it off as being a "joke" and saying they don't have any humor, using their race as a medium.

"Not sugar coating" things doesn't mean being racist. Ironically, your phrase "difference in opinion" is sugar coating your hostility and racism towards them. There is never an ok time to be seriously racist. I'm pretty sure this whole conflict started because you were attacking them because you didn't like young kids in the clan and then when they retaliated, you called it off as being a "joke" and saying they don't have any humor, using their race as a medium.

@DrLee close this ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

In this situation to me it feels like you are being extremely bias. You simply dismissed Brian's over the top bm and OBVIOUS RACISM as something to just shrug off your shoulders but are claiming that Kypari needs to be convicted of a ban in a situation where his bm was not at all as severe as Rabid or Brian. You KNOW this. Additionally, Kypari and Tekage WERE the victims because this all started because of Brian's racism thread aka "British Humor Thread". You also KNOW that no conflict would ever have happened if Rabid and Brian didn't begin with their instigation on Kypari and Tekage. Now, mind you, I don't really like their personalities and am not really friends with them, but its clear to me that you are being biased because you are chummy with Rabid and don't like young kids in xG.
 
@diabeetus @DrLee @ThePenguin @CommunityLeaders ( @Forest )

Dang this thread is hella funny. Some of the people who wanted him to stay banned previously stated he kept the servers alive on his own.
 
Anyways I don't have a lot to say right now, but he probably shouldn't have been permed randomly out of the blue.

Dang this thread is hella funny. Some of the people who wanted him to stay banned previously stated he kept the servers alive on his own.
 
Anyways I don't have a lot to say right now, but he probably shouldn't have been permed randomly out of the blue.

While I do understand why he was banned, I don't find that a [permanent] ban on the spot was necessarily justified without prior notice. Vector's behaviour and attitude is certainly volatile and unacceptable, and I can see why so many are against his unban, but to jump the gun to a permanent ban seems excessive.
 
With that said, I propose a compromise that I feel is fair to both parties; those for the unban and those against. I suggest that Vector be unbanned only from Forums for the time being while remaining permanently banned from Servers.
 
During this period, Vector will have the opportunity to show the community that he can produce a community-friendly attitude that doesn't involve overly-hostile or discriminating remarks. With that said, Higher-Ups will need to monitor his behaviour and attitude. This is a crucial step. This will ensure that if he is not able to keep a calm air around him on Forums after being given a chance, then the only choice will be to permanently ban him. After a noticeable improvement in behaviour, an appeal for an unban from Servers can be made where the community will determine whether he is ready to represent XenoGamers on it's Servers.
 
This will obviously require the co-operation of the community as well, including those who have had.. Turbulent times with Vector. Simply put, do not [intentionally] harass, instigate, or provoke him into slipping up. It isn't easy to make a change in attitude, so don't [try to] give the guy a hard time. At the very least, try to put aside your differences and give the guy a chance.
 
To clarify, this is all just an opinion. Take it with a grain of salt :coffee:

+1 for unban on forums
idgaf about server ban because tf2 nerds will probably gang on me if i +1 it.

In this situation to me it feels like you are being extremely bias. You simply dismissed Brian's over the top bm and OBVIOUS RACISM as something to just shrug off your shoulders but are claiming that Kypari needs to be convicted of a ban in a situation where his bm was not at all as severe as Rabid or Brian. You KNOW this. Additionally, Kypari and Tekage WERE the victims because this all started because of Brian's racism thread aka "British Humor Thread". You also KNOW that no conflict would ever have happened if Rabid and Brian didn't begin with their instigation on Kypari and Tekage. Now, mind you, I don't really like their personalities and am not really friends with them, but its clear to me that you are being biased because you are chummy with Rabid and don't like young kids in xG.
 
@diabeetus @DrLee @ThePenguin @CommunityLeaders ( @Forest )

In this situation to me it feels like you are being extremely bias. You simply dismissed Brian's over the top bm and OBVIOUS RACISM as something to just shrug off your shoulders but are claiming that Kypari needs to be convicted of a ban in a situation where his bm was not at all as severe as Rabid or Brian. You KNOW this. Additionally, Kypari and Tekage WERE the victims because this all started because of Brian's racism thread aka "British Humor Thread". You also KNOW that no conflict would ever have happened if Rabid and Brian didn't begin with their instigation on Kypari and Tekage. Now, mind you, I don't really like their personalities and am not really friends with them, but its clear to me that you are being biased because you are chummy with Rabid and don't like young kids in xG.
 
@diabeetus @DrLee @ThePenguin @CommunityLeaders ( @Forest )

In this situation to me it feels like you are being extremely bias. You simply dismissed Brian's over the top bm and OBVIOUS RACISM as something to just shrug off your shoulders but are claiming that Kypari needs to be convicted of a ban in a situation where his bm was not at all as severe as Rabid or Brian. You KNOW this. Additionally, Kypari and Tekage WERE the victims because this all started because of Brian's racism thread aka "British Humor Thread". You also KNOW that no conflict would ever have happened if Rabid and Brian didn't begin with their instigation on Kypari and Tekage. Now, mind you, I don't really like their personalities and am not really friends with them, but its clear to me that you are being biased because you are chummy with Rabid and don't like young kids in xG.
 
@diabeetus @DrLee @ThePenguin @CommunityLeaders ( @Forest )

In this situation to me it feels like you are being extremely bias. You simply dismissed Brian's over the top bm and OBVIOUS RACISM as something to just shrug off your shoulders but are claiming that Kypari needs to be convicted of a ban in a situation where his bm was not at all as severe as Rabid or Brian. You KNOW this. Additionally, Kypari and Tekage WERE the victims because this all started because of Brian's racism thread aka "British Humor Thread". You also KNOW that no conflict would ever have happened if Rabid and Brian didn't begin with their instigation on Kypari and Tekage. Now, mind you, I don't really like their personalities and am not really friends with them, but its clear to me that you are being biased because you are chummy with Rabid and don't like young kids in xG.
 
@diabeetus @DrLee @ThePenguin @CommunityLeaders ( @Forest )