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Again, I would enjoy some form of proof beyond stuff that I was already punished for.

The most recent ban was two years ago. Based off of this thread, the tf2 higherups have showed zero scrutiny whilst dealing with this case. Vexx agrees with me, and your posts verify my statement. You don't get where I am "coming from" if you believe an offence from two years ago should be carried over for somebody making their name "admins are badmins."

We've already been over how the rule doesn't matter. @Vexx @Sesh say so too.

Because the system is really flawed and miscommunication leads to multiple warnings and kicks.
You can join the server, break a rule, get warned and come back the next day and rinse and repeat.

The most recent ban was a week. TF2 higherups are agreeing that a month was justified since he had already had a week ban. I get where you're coming from though.

So you are gonna tag your friends who are gonna agree with you?

But yet he's not banned by your staff for being toxic!!!??! Also join the RuneScape division

Based on your previous posts, you didn't really investigate this entire situation. You don't really know the history of Brian and it sounds like you are just going based off of what other people are telling you. The way Brian was *insulting* you was agreeably childish, however, it should not warrant a ban. I mentioned the fact he was a good staff member because it implies he should have some slack cut for him. You know, the same slack rejects was cut for abusing his powers. At this point it seems like you can't handle being wrong.
 
 

 
Since you have failed to read all of my short, but important, thread responses I'll have to reiterate this for you. When you base a ban on someone's prior bans, then the substance of those bans matter. Meaning, bogus bans should not be considered. The majority of his previous bans are permanent, and also bogus. If you're going to be a staff member and leave input on a ban appeal then you must put in careful scrutiny into your actions on the appeal. You have failed to do that.

So you guys chose to never ban him those times that he's so toxic that you feel that's all he joins the servers for, but the time his name is "tired of tf2 badmins" was the tipping point for a month long ban? You've gotta be kidding me man.

I'm pretty sure most TGH staff can back me up that he's toxic nearly every time he joins.
@Vexx @Sesh @Elcark @BonfireCentipede @Vector @Natsu and more.

lol wut

[Citation needed]

So basically I did investigate it.

Wrong, go look at my first post.

Well you are right, I should have gotten more to the story before putting in the ban, but I figured I'd do it because sourcebans wasn't working anyway, and @Kypari is one of my staff which of course I will trust him in most situations. As for @Brian's ban, I will propose we drop the ban down to a much lower time, as sure, a month ban may seem a bit much in the event he did not see his warnings. In the future though, please try to pay attention to chat in the event this comes up again. There's really no middle ground when it comes to warnings, we can't do voice because someone may have their sound muted, and we can only count on the user paying attention to the chat when it does come to warnings. When it comes to the time we should lower it to, I will propose we lower it to a week. The user in question still had the intention and a history of instigating our staff on the server, and I feel it would be completely unfair for us to drop the ban completely.

Let's get this straight...
 
The solution here for a ban appeal on someone with a very minimal ban history, and a rich history of being a great staff member is to week ban him for a name on a server.
Not only that, his name wasn't even offensive, it was just Admins are Badmins. Are staff that fragile that a name criticizing you is warrant of a week ban? Ridiculous.
 
The fact this needs a ban is childish, the fact @Vexx or @Kypari didn't investigate anything is ridiculous.

The guy literally comes on just to insult people and it's not just poking. He's in trouble for a reason.

Why didn't you investigate the bans? You seem to be acting very irrational right now.
 
This ban is by far one of the most ridiculous threads I have seen in years.

I don't need to, Minecrack. It's procedure regardless of the rules they broken.
Also there's no need for comments like that.

I'd like to remind people not to resort to petty insulting and flaming or it's just going to make a bigger mess of things.
 
Try to keep it civil please.

I'm gonna have to genuinely agree with this, like i stated in the private discord that some people reading this are on, i find it extremely unreasonable to not peruse warning a person when you know they may have not heard/seen it, it's essentially being banhappy and is poor staff behavior.
 
Once there was a random guy who got on jailbreak and was mad about how worse he thought the jailbreak community had generally gotten. So he got on blue and mass freekilled, I warned him and everything then he asked me if i was an admin which i was at the time, and he was clearly waiting to be banned, but instead i started talking to him to ask why he was mad and he explained and i explained to him where he was right and where he was wrong.
After the conversation ended he made a geniune apology and said i could ban him since he wasnt planning to join again.
 
And that i think is how staff should try to handle situations rather than going "LOL he fucked up this time /ban @person 0 "toxicity, disrespect" cause otherwise you're being more counter-productive to the server generally than you are being productive.
 
just for the simple fact that the communication in general with brian was poorly established, i will +1 this thread for either the duration of the ban being reduced to a reasonable amount, or it being removed entirely
 
 
TL;DR - The situation was poorly handled, the length of the ban is unreasonably long

I honestly think banning him for having a name like that is a bit excessive. Sometimes people would rather be playing the game than be reading the chat so maybe he didn't see the warnings and had to be given a warning on the voice chat. Even if his ban was from 2 years ago I believe he doesn't deserve a month ban over a name. And about the situation where he was asking you guys to mute the kid, I'm just going to guess that he thought the ''immature voice on mic is not allowed'' rule was still a thing and was asking for the kid to be muted for that. If that were the case then you guys should have informed him that it was no longer a rule and that it was removed.

Just gonna respond to you guys, and then let the community decide as even the higherups and I disagree. A permanent ban obviously has no falloff date because it hasn't been served because it's permanent, so this example makes no sense to me @Vexx, nor am I suggesting for permanent bans to automatically be unbanned after a certain amount of time.
 
Someone who fully serves a punishment years ago, should not blindly be followed to a greater punishment. The context of "he doesn't learn" has 0 basis if he's been on and off the server for years with no further punishment. We're a gaming community... do you honestly think the punishment fits the crime? @Sesh
 
@Bello Agree with your points, his previous bans have completely 0 correlation, how does that imply he "hasn't changed" or "doesn't learn"

How does being toxic without having been banned for it justify a month ban? Yes, he was banned for something else and maybe he was toxic, but jumping straight to a month ban seems way too much.

I was not kicked yesterday. I will state again that I was muted, and I left after questioning the decision.