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@Bonk what's your background nationality?

Also, people can kill others while in spawn-protection without the opposing being able to even damage them, which is really unfair.

jesus christ calm down, don't blow a blood vessel child. There's a difference between sharing an opinion, and chimping out.

I don't like this idea. its frustrating for players who actually push to the enemy spawn.

/kartme for donators /kart @me for staff Or /kartify @me Staff can use /kartme too

Yes.

So I guess we should all wear kilts for now on?

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Why does your age say 15 hear but on your profile page it says 17?

The easiest way to lose weight is to buy a dog and name him weight, and just open your door and let him run off.

Good, Muffin. Come back to the dark side. We need more Canadians

I think you just banned me, but I want you to know that it wasn't my spray.. I haven't used that spray in months.. You can take look at my profile if you like, I'm actually quite professional. I like to think so anyways. The last time I came on, I remember being banned as well. I didn't look into it as it wasn't a big deal at the time, but I assure you, although I had the spray equipped, I did NOT use it. Hell I was alt-tabbed for 90% in the game in spawn. I was never warned OR confronted, if you're going to ban someone, I would assume you would atleast talk to the person you think had sprayed it. At this time I have changed my spray. I can not tell you who had done it, but I haven't used this spray on this server since I was warned months ago. For all I know, someone could have known I was warned, and used the spray on their own and then left the server. I was ON the server when it was sprayed, and from what I can tell during the voice chat, no one could see whom had sprayed it. If it was me, you'd have seen my name on it as I was still online at the time. I was warned once when I used the spray months ago. Maybe if it was sprayed again by someone else and I happened to be in the game, but not actually physcially at the computer, someone would have said something to me IF they remembered I had sprayed it previously. Though the only warning I remember is the one from when I sprayed it the very first and only time. That's great that I wasn't perm'd intially, but I was given a warning, and I had followed through. I don't have proof that it wasn't me, but how can I? I was on the server WHILE it was sprayed, I remember you talking on voice chat saying you knew who did it, at time I paniced and I hoped you didn't suspect me, and I even went to radio tower to see it myself, although I saw nothing. Again, I was on the server and no one saw the name of who sprayed it. It is possible I was afk when I was warned, as I tend to alt-tab and sit in spawn for prolonged periods of time. I just believe that someone knew I was warned for this behaviour before, and decided to use my old spray, and leave the server while I was on, knowing that I would get into trouble. Why? I can't tell you. I know it seems far-fetched but I can't think of any other reason to defend myself. Again, it's great I wasn't perm'd by now, and I'm thankful for that, but at the same time it feels like I'm being thankful for not being banned for something I was wrongly accused of. I know you'll probably recommend that I open up a ticket to fight the ban on the site, which I have. I don't believe neither you or I have the time to discuss this on your Steam profile. Yes, I apologize for using the spray intially, but I refuse to be held accountable for the following incidents. I just feel wrongly accused and wanted to get this off my chest.

@Kart

+1 A:7 M:7 Seems to be a very nice person! Would be a good edition to xG. :)

Ive never seen a pimply 14 year old this mad over nothing. Take your puberty anger elsewhere.

So I ve been playing tf2 for 3 years now and on XG servers for 2 years and banning spawn camping is a poor decision and let me explain why. Most of the strategies on the maps we play on involve spawn camping or at least the ones I've found to be successful universally do. Lets take the example of golden rod city. You see about 4 or 5 strategies regularly, all of which would be classified as spawn camping. 1: snipers sniping from near there own spawn to the opposing spawn. 2: scouts who run behind the opposing spawn and kill said snipers 3: sticky jumping demos who caber the opposing spawn 4:pyros who and other friends who pick off people near the enemy spawn and 5: My strategy sticky jumping to the opposing spawn and using stickies on the door. This is how this map is played. Most frags happen in what i would call the spawn areas. NEXT TO NO FRAGS HAPPEN ON THE MIDDLE STRECH. Clocktown is a better balanced map in my opinion but again look at where the frags take place: Infront of the clock tower or in front of blue spawn. The main difference between clock town and goldenrod is that clock town isn't a gigantic stretch of land that allows snipers to snipe from the other side of the map like golden rod but it has tight corridors that are great for demo's and soldiers. Both spawns fall to sticky traps quotes easily but thats how the map is played. if you ban spawn camping then snipers Will snipe from spawn. And the spawns are too close together on clock town to avoid one team from pushing into each others spawn areas. Banning spawn camping Just doesn't work. It makes the maps unplayable particularly clock town as the spawns are so close to each other that about 90% of frags on that map could be considered spawn camping. Golden rod isn't much better. at least 80% of the kills I've gotten on that map have been near the enemy spawn or near mine. In addition I can't follow this rule. Its simple. When people snipe me Im going to try to kill them. End of story. And since people snipe in or near spawn on both maps Im going to spawn camp. And every one who regularly plays on TF2 servers will too and knows exactly what will happen. To support my balance claims Id like to point out my stats: On the former trade gaming history server/24 hour clock town: I rank number 1 with the stock rocket launcher number 1 with the sticky bomb launcher number 1 with the stock sniper and number 7 overall. I know these weapons and i know these maps pretty well. If you don't trust my opinion Many others support my opinion including @Vector @Kypari . Again this rule will push more people, including you're regulars like me away from servers. and won't solve anything

Division: Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name: Г Roger | Ram-Dragon ] Steam ID: 76561198034072369 Information: I was banned for an inappropriate spray on the Pokemon Goldenrod City Map. While it IS true that I did have said spray equipped at the time, I did NOT use this spray. I haven't use this spray on this server in months, as I was once warned for using it, and since then I never did. Also, I was recently banned earlier this week from the server (for probably the same reason but I didn't look into it). I let it go as I didn't think it was a big deal at the time, though now I'm getting banned again, and it seems like a permanent ban this time around. I was never warned, I was never approached, and no one ever confronted me about it, therefore I could not defend myself and dismiss these allegations. If you're going to ban someone, let them know in game, so you can confirm that THIS is the person that's making trouble instead of blindly banning someone without even mentioning it. I have no proof that it was not me, but how can I? I don't know how the spray got there, for all I know someone could be setting me up as they've seen me use the spray there once before and had known that I was warned. From what I heard via the chat, the spray didn't even have the name of the person on it, even though I was already on the server. I'd imagine if the spray was done by me, and I was still ON the server, it would say my name. At this time I've changed my spray.

In fact I believe there might be a legal obligation to report his IP address to the police for having the spray regardless of whether he sprayed it or not.

I think anything inappropriately related to children deserves an instant permanent ban. No second chances because it is illegal

hasn't seen the spray myself, but from the description it doesn't appear as bad as everyone's making it out to be user doesn't seem like a complete asshole nor dumbass, has apologies for his mistakes and said he wont repeat +1 for shorten the time/second chance

HOLY HELL. Reported to the police? You know this is the internet, right? Type child porn into google and you'll probably find the spray. How do I know anyone in XG has, oh... murdered? Raped? Treasoned? Already in fucking jail!? Guys, we are all anonymous usernames on a network. ANY ONE OF YOU COULD BE A PEDOPHILE. Your basing everything on this guy from this spray. An image. As far as the law goes... I really have no comment. Do even know hes in the US? Is law inforcement really going to hunt this guy down over an online image? This is a source ban protest, not an actual courtroom. Do you have any idea how this guy is probably feeling right now? Just for getting image, I dont know... being a bit of an ass. Then get called a pedophile. Possibly getting arrested. You scared the living shit out of him. Only when you people accuse someone of TAKING PHOTOS OF CHILDREN IN SEXUAL CONGRESS FACTUALLY WILL I DEEM THIS ANYWHERE CLOSE TO ACCEPTABLE. Get rid of the disgusting spray? Yes. Ban him for it? On the fence. Not really sure at this point +1 -1 THREATEN HIM? Maybe your breaking the law for possibly falsified accusement. Sorry for ranting. This just got way too out of hand and pissed me off.

I'm trying to defend you... I may have been hostle, because other replies in this thread had threatened you over... a fucking picture of an offensive-to-them naked girl doll. Grow up. Police is an over the top metioning. Now a mature and mostly harmless fun guy just left because of over reactions. Just calm the fuck everyone over stuff. Please.

Nig if u srs, iz gud. maek exersize lewse phat.

Oh and I love the whole "its only a doll getting shit on, its not child porn" thing. "Guys is ok, its only some shit on a doll."

How about this, once you leave spawn, you get a 5 second godmode?