Hidingmaster

Im sorry kid, ITS WAS LATE AT NIGHT. This is not an educational essay, and is meant to be written in a more natural and free type of way which means it will have errors. Dont get me started on your grammar when speaking... dear lord baby jesus

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If he loved the community and servers so much... Why did he dig himself into such a deep hole. Hindsight can be a real bitch sometimes.
 
Until I see you drastically improve in-game I won't change my vote. And I'm not talking one day or one week, I'm talking a month or more of mature behavior and respect.

#bombsuntilhub

-1 for -1'ing -1s in the first place. -1.
 
I jk. +/-0

:( never again will I type or watch a livestream

I am thinking about removing the full motd and playing with the simple motd only. If you don't know how to enforce quality rules that make a server run smoothly and all you do is find ways to slay people then you shouldn't be a staff member.

I got an idea.. we have a gold mine on our hands.
 
Post the long version of the motd when they join the game with a link at the top:
 
WANT THE ABRIDGED, CONDENSED VERSION OF THIS MOTD?
Click this link to purchase this new and shortened format for those who don't like to read.

One easy payment of $9.99 +tax,stripper fees, license and registration, and a full service buffet for staff members
 
REMEMBER: BY PURCHASING THIS COPY YOU AGREE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE FULL MOTD. ALL PROCEEDS WILL GO TO IMPROVING THE SERVERS FOR YOUR ENJOYMENT. THANKS

-Silence

Just copy and paste that silence right before the full motd. (Taxes, stripper fees, license and registration, buffet fees will equal about $92.019 in additional payment).

wanna hear a funny story ? silence working on hub

I forgot all about your thread.
 
Now that we have the option to donate and apply for mod I think its more beneficial to put in bombs for the time being. It'll help keep the server populated which may lead to more members and a much better chance of getting donations.

I forgot all about your thread.
 
Now that we have the option to donate and apply for mod I think its more beneficial to put in bombs for the time being. It'll help keep the server populated which may lead to more members and a much better chance of getting donations.

Last Requests
You can't use First Reaction/Last reaction to decide LR (this includes last one to spray or first one to spray etc). The T who has Last Request is allowed to move around after they type in !lr, but any action that would normally make a T a "rebel" still applies in this situation, such as breaking vents or entering armory. During a Last Request, the CTs that are not playing against the last T cannot interfere with the current game but must be in the area at all times (Failure to do so will result in a slay/teamban). When a CT wins, the winning CT is the only person allowed to kill the losing T. NO CHEATING IS IMPLIED (Advantage to either T or CT/Rocket Toss).
 
A T may choose to rebel on LR, but the choice to rebel means another !lr option may not be chosen. A T can only rebel if an !lr has not already been chosen, and under no circumstances may the T choose an !lr after they have already started to rebel (doing so will result in a slay). The T does not have to announce that they have chosen to rebel, and may do so at any time as long as another !lr option has not been chosen. CTs may not taser a rebelling T as this is an unfair advantage. CTs are also not allowed to gun plant the T with LR, as this may lead to freekills.
 
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This is the current rule that was put into the motd regarding rebelling on !lr. As far as I have seen it has worked fairly well, although its just a start and can always be altered to work better; thats the point of this thread. I'm looking for suggestions in altering the way it is written, or what is included in it to work better on the server.
 
I know Cristo suggested letting them go into armory and to allow them to hold guns, which as it currently states would be rebellious acts and CT's can kill them for it. I wouldn't disagree with allowing them to hold guns, but restricting armory from T's makes it a challenge to rebel on !lr and also means that it won't occur every single time.
 
Post ideas and suggestions below.

+1 for unban

Obviously wants a perm forum ban too. @@DarkWolf6052 @@Forest @@Rhododendron @@serbiansnaga

I've never seen it except for the isolated times in which it was bothersome, and I have not heard anything from anyone about his constant spamming with proof or specific situations. I can't just assume he always spams, and I was in the game for quite a while with Dark and Jacob, and he was doing absolutely nothing wrong prior to it.
Then maybe you should do your job more often.
 
I'm sorry that I don't meet you're personal qualifications, please come into the server more then and tell me how to do my job.
 
Whatever personal dislike you have for me should stop, you've been nothing but disrespectful to me. Although we argue on the forums I don't carry any dislike about you into the game or outside the relevant forum because I can hold a mature argument.
 
Stop with the insults, this is your only warning.

My replies in bold.
Ok if you have audio of him saying "im baiiiiiiiiiiting" but him not actually baiting, then how is that proof at all? It's not. The gun plant is SLAYABLE, but is it enough for you to PERM him? He came out of armory late, and he was slayed for it and already punished for his action, so I don't know why that was brought up here.
 
Baiting was shown in Lapis' video, but was taken down for quality reasons, showing him saying that was a representation of trolling, not baiting. The gun plant alone is not enough, but it can be enough when combined with his other issues. It was brought up to show his lack of care and/or knowledge of the rules. Baiting, gun planting, trolling, disrespect, freekilling, and six bans in the last month are great reasons for a perm.
 
 
@@Michael I'm closing this thread as there are more important things going on right now. Take this as a good warning, just read to motd and follow it to the best of your ability. You were CT banned for a week when you freekilled yesterday, expect a ban request thread again if it continues.
 
Closed

Alright, although the steps were skipped, I feel that any previous offenders that have offended offensively within the past x amount of time should be exempt from said rules. Someone who spams is put on the radar for most of the staff and when they act up they are punished immediately, and that makes sense to me. If he was doing this to new players constantly, that is an issue, but for someone who has a history of spamming and DarkWolf not dealing with his crap early on, it seems that it's more justified then anything.
Push for change in the handbook for frequent offenders. Then threads like this can die down.
-1 for abuse

Last ban and discussion about his spamming was July 7th, I think a month time is more than enough between situations to warrant dark to follow the correct steps. I can understand if its a week or two after, but when its been this long of time then he should warn him, or at minimum gag.

I find it funny how that has NOTHING to do with this?
I do agree GREATLY with others and what I said which is this has been THROWN out of proportion.
 
Jacob disrespected and was obviously asked to stop doing this before and he went on. That is why I think DARKWOLF should NOT be punished. It does not MATTER at this point that darkwolf missed a step, Jacob foiled his own thread by being an idiot and disrespecting.
 
With this being said we should just wait for a co-leader decision and stop making us hate eachother T-T
isn't that what you said about the image of deathgod saying "nigger" in the other thread, then were proven completely wrong? It has everything to do with this. this is the nth thread now on darkwolf, and it is under the same exact reason, not following a strict procedure when giving out punishments. please, think before you post.
 
said thread sums up all the others, and includes a lot of the banter between sides

Why is everyone so mad? He is your friend warrior, and you have clearly blindly supported him, as evident in your first post here, as well as in the other threads. it is clear as day, however for EVERYONE friend or not of darkwolf, there is no reason to call people autistic, downsyndrome, retarded, etc.

@@shadowspy he may have slayed you and not said anything but when ever you slay me you just make up some fucking lie or cross eyed fucking rule.

Alright, finally I'm home from my trip. I would like to start out by saying that it's a little bit ridiculous that you guys are voting downs on each others post just because you disagree.
 
If you want your opinion to be taken seriously, as all should, at least show an attempt to be unbiased in what you are saying.
 
Now, let's look at the facts of what happened. Jacob started saying things that clearly offended Darkwolf and as seen, he was kicked. There are several things to consider:
 

Why was the punishment given?
Was it justified?
Was the proper process used in giving the punishment?

 
1. The punishment was given, as said by Darkwolf, because of spamming. There are people who are arguing a disrespect case which, regardless of whether it is true or not, does not matter. The reason given for the punishment was spamming.
 
2. As far as I can see there are not any clear guidelines among spamming directly listed in rules, but the accepted reasoning has been if the 3 of the same text is posted right away, it can be considered as spam. I have seen Darkwolf himself acknowledge and use this rule. There are special cases, but as far as I can see from the text, there are fairly long intervals between each posting. The most I see are two lines put together. I personally can't count this as spamming at all, but if it is, he should be gagged.
 
3. The simple answer is no. A gag should always be given before a kick. It seems to me that Jacob struck a nerve and Darkwolf kicked him right away.
 
 
 
 
Jacob is in no way in the right here, he was purposely edging Darkwolf on and has a previous history of trolling. But regardless of his history, everyone is entitled to the same level of treatment. Division managers should, in my opinion, keep their emotions in check especially when admining and provide an unbiased moderation of the server.

Read the entire thread, its explained... like 27.5 times.

Alright so I need to cover a few things first:
 
1) Do not disrespect, call people stupid, say people have downs or anything of the sort.
2) Keep it on track, this isn't about how Shadow did this wrong and whatever you all are going on about. This is about Darkwolf, keep it on topic.
 
Now I would like those who are disagreeing to answer the following questions:
 
-Did Jacob spam, you may refer to the demo and screenshots for help?
-Did darkwolf warn Jacob with a gag, or in anyway through chat tell him that what he was saying was spamming or disrespectful?
-If darkwolf did not warn him or gag him prior to kicking jacob, did he or did he not skip a step in punishment?
-What is spamming?
-Has darkwolf had prior warning about situations like this, including being biased when making decisions?
 
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I dont know where you all are getting confused in this thread, you are stating that this is just one little thing that lead to a kick in which someone can just rejoin right away. Abuse is abuse, if I kick somebody for fun I can't use the excuse well its just a 10 second hindrance on you; its still abuse no matter what way you slice it. So put yourselves in this same exact scenario, stop covering for each other and be realistic.

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Please keep thisthread open for a couple more hours i would likd to gype my responxe out whe i ge