MinerTeddy

I demand that we put it back onto the TGH server.
 
WHOSE WITH ME?!?!?!

But yet he's not banned by your staff for being toxic!!!??! Also join the RuneScape division

But yet he's not banned by your staff for being toxic!!!??! Also join the RuneScape division

Closing the thread now, as there no longer needs to be discussion.

The month ban was insanely excessive, especially with no kick and also with a ban on brian without getting his side.
His ban will stay to a day, will be discussed with the higherups but right now Silence and I both agree anything more than a day is excessive over something so small. We are not a clan based on censorship, and hopefully people's feelings can handle being called badmin.
PLEASE use common sense when making bans, and try to give adequate warnings before bans unless it's hacking or mass freekilling (which we have other rules for)
Ratings should not be considered personal attacks, as I was told in the past by the higher ups when I complained about it. That being said, if you're giving people FUCK OFF rating, you should not be complaining about it in the first place.
We are NOT a safe space

I will have huge discussions with our higher ups and then staff about what common sense means, and how we should try to be fair in all our bans, and try to understand that we should not strive for bans, but instead do our due diligence to get things resolved in a matter that everyone is happy. This is clearly a situation that has not met those standards. This fault also comes from myself for not being so involved with TF2, but I will be from now on.

No scrutiny.

Whenever shit happens better make a post about vector. amiright?

I will stand by my brother till the end

You did zero research and went based off of other people said, then used that information in your post. There's no telling how correct your information is on Brian.
 
Rejects was cut a lot of slacks for blatantly lying and abusing his powers. I'm not going to hang on this too long to minimize the issues this thread is already causing people, but, the fact he was allowed to stay in this clan is definitely slack. This was probably a mixture of a lot of people liking him and slack for his work on the servers.
 
Now, banning someone for the name "admins are badmins" is not fair. That's just shows certain staff members have thin skins. Staff should never have to use their powers for insults against them unless they are getting flat out personal attacks or are disrupting the server.

Again, I would enjoy some form of proof beyond stuff that I was already punished for.

Because Aegean wrote that and it reminded me of you and I forgot to quote him

While I did not research the original ban as I should have, I did talk with a lot of my staff about how brian has been in the server, and have even witnessed some of it myself. Rejects was cut no slack, he was demoted all the way to member, though there was talk about just dropping to probationary mod for a bit there, in the end it was a full demotion so that no bias was shown. Once again, just because he was staff previously does not mean he should be "cut come slack". Brian has never personally insulted me, nor do I dislike the guy. Fairness is what I'm going for here, and sure I already admitted I did make a mistake by not investigating properly before hand. A two week silence was proposed in terms of a punishment, due to his behavior.

But yet he's not banned by your staff for being toxic!!!??! Also join the RuneScape division

I ain't getting involved. All i'm going to say is that Brian yes had a history of doing this. I have nothing against brian and i am friends with him but i won't deny that he has done this for a little while but even then i personally didn't have a problem with it because it wasn't so bad to the point i punished, however that is MY opinion.

not sure why i'm being mentioned and why this is brought up but cool bro thanks.

lol

I know that i have no place in this or not much say at all, but really? a month ban just for a name change? i mean, i partially know that he had previous bans, but why a month?
I probably sound really stupid putting this comment here... (i just wanted to share what i wanted to share in this thread considering that live forum chat is spamming the shit out of me and that i think this is all just crazy and i agree with @Rhododendron about removing the ban and calming down about this..) again, sorry... i know i have no say in this.. i just wanted to put what i wanted to say.

You tagging @Vector actually reminds me that he's a fantastic example. He was (in the eyes of a large portion of the community) constantly toxic while online, but evidence was never gathered, so when we tried to ban him for a long time for something small, it was found invalid by higher ups, because it was an invalid ban. Nothing has changed since then my guy.

I honestly don't see how the logic is he was banned for a week 2 years ago, better ban him for a month now.

And yet i can get about twice as many higher ups to say the opposite. At most a day ban should be appropriate. This logic actually hurts my brain. Holy shit.

The most recent ban was two years ago. Based off of this thread, the tf2 higherups have showed zero scrutiny whilst dealing with this case. Vexx agrees with me, and your posts verify my statement. You don't get where I am "coming from" if you believe an offence from two years ago should be carried over for somebody making their name "admins are badmins."

We've already been over how the rule doesn't matter. @Vexx @Sesh say so too.

Because the system is really flawed and miscommunication leads to multiple warnings and kicks.
You can join the server, break a rule, get warned and come back the next day and rinse and repeat.

Two years ago. For an instance I don't even remember.

The most recent ban was a week. TF2 higherups are agreeing that a month was justified since he had already had a week ban. I get where you're coming from though.

But yet he's not banned by your staff for being toxic!!!??! Also join the RuneScape division

Based on your previous posts, you didn't really investigate this entire situation. You don't really know the history of Brian and it sounds like you are just going based off of what other people are telling you. The way Brian was *insulting* you was agreeably childish, however, it should not warrant a ban. I mentioned the fact he was a good staff member because it implies he should have some slack cut for him. You know, the same slack rejects was cut for abusing his powers. At this point it seems like you can't handle being wrong.
 
 

 
Since you have failed to read all of my short, but important, thread responses I'll have to reiterate this for you. When you base a ban on someone's prior bans, then the substance of those bans matter. Meaning, bogus bans should not be considered. The majority of his previous bans are permanent, and also bogus. If you're going to be a staff member and leave input on a ban appeal then you must put in careful scrutiny into your actions on the appeal. You have failed to do that.

So you guys chose to never ban him those times that he's so toxic that you feel that's all he joins the servers for, but the time his name is "tired of tf2 badmins" was the tipping point for a month long ban? You've gotta be kidding me man.