Vexx

Ok.. I was in my room with the lights on, looking on the forums for something spicy to look at. All at once, my computer shut off, my lights turned off, and about 4 books fell off my shelf along with my tea that fell. I'm genuinely confused right now, and I need some answers. My adrenaline probably won't stop pumping until I get one.

Oh boy where do I start. 
I guess I'll start off by talking about my leaving. To be honest I left in a storm. I feel like I hurt a lot of people in the crossfire of my anger. Im sorry to those people. I'd also like to apologize to the members I let down. I wanted to provide the support I could for you guys and because I felt hurt and betrayed so I put myself first. It wasnt fair for you guys.
I also want to apologize for going dark for so long. In case you don't know I've been under the guise of myagic for a while. It's taken me a long time to not feel so sour. With the recent state of staff however I feel a lot more comfortble in my return. Those who I've *unintentionally* hurt I want to bury the hatchet, if I havent already. 
I would like to be a part of the community again and hopefully most of you can forgive me in time. There was a lot of behind the scenes activities that left me hurt for a while. I was hoping to shed light in those issues when I left which for the most part I feel has been corrected. The state of xg *from what I've seen on the sidelines* has improved in a lot of ways.
I'm hoping for a fresh start. I'm not looking for handouts. I dont know if I'm even considering staff in the near future. In time when I feel a bit more connected to the community again I may go for staff again. I just want to be clear my intentions are not set for staff again. I just want to feel involved with the community again. I hope we can move forward together. 
Thanks for your time.

Well another thing would be the toes of course, but it's a step in a direction. I would like to see that addressed as well.

It just promotes people to shout at each other or question whether the said image is against the Discord TOS and is just a hellhole. If people don't want to see it, they should mute it of course, but all this channel does is cause controversy and I don't particularly see a reason why we should have it if members are constantly questioning whether something is allowed or not, followed by the arguments and spam to 1up each other just makes this channel do more bad than good.

I've lost interest in TF2 and other games now due to my depression, and along with that, my interest in the servers. I am glad to have met the people I have, but it is hard to force myself to talk to other people. I don't want to force myself to stay a member of the community if I am hardly a part of it anyways. I don't go on servers, I don't use the forums anymore, I hardly go on the xG Discord, let alone, 1 or 2 private ones. I know that not a lot of people know me and maybe my leave won't affect some people, but I want to take this time to thank the people I have met over the 2 years (it feels like so much longer than that) I have been with the community and how supportive a lot of you have been. But leaving this server, means leaving a lot of me behind. I may come back, I'm not sure. But I will let this be my final goodbye.
 
-Septik (aka Otter Boy)
 

I'm stepping down from member to apply as admin on F-o-G because I'm clearly unwanted and would like to apply for admin over there where I am wanted. Goodbye everyone.

TF is this game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3tLcZACJtw&feature=youtu.be

Lately, me and the other TF2 higherups have noticed an uproar in people who are not satisfied with the current state of the TF2 division of our community in terms of how we present ourselves and some of the rules that they feel are far too strict. We have discussed many topics and talked with a lot of staff over the past few days for the betterment of not only their staff ability, but for the community and to feel welcomed and respected as they should be in hopes that they will continue to support and play on our servers. 
I would like to do a Staff PSA in this post in hopes that everyone will see that we want to make a change to make everyone as satisfied as possible. Of course, there are times where you may not necessarily agree with the rules or such and you may not be superbly happy about the division, but we have to try to make everyone as happy as they can be to a realistic and fair degree.
Many staff members have been talked to individually about one or more of these topics already, but I would like to make it publicly known so that our current staff can find a way to improve to the upmost degree if they feel like they should be working on one of the things mentioned. Even if you feel you don't need to work on anything, please read this and try to improve on them to the upmost degree regardless in hopes that you can be as good of a staff member and role-model for the community as possible. Learning is a great way to climb positions!
Staff members should not try to interpret rules wildly from their original intent.
Recently, some people have felt as if they have been wrongly punished because staff members are being far too broad with the rules and end up punishing people for reasons that stray too far from the actual !motd. I would like to remind staff that it is completely OK to ask questions and talk to a staff member in a higher position (whether that be admin or one of the higherups) whether something is disallowed or not in hopes that this will happen less, and that I would also like to see staff try to enforce rules directly towards what they are related to.
Staff members should try to recognize the situation appropriately and take everything in context.
We have felt as if staff sometimes may not appropriately address the situation because they aren't reading the context whatsoever and jump to conclusions regarding rules such as disrespect but towards their friends and other such examples. I would like to remind staff that it is OK if someone says that it's a joke and you go back on your warning or mute/gag and to understand the situation appropriately before handing out a punishment.
Staff members should be a role-model to other people and act maturely, specifically when handing out punishments.
Just a reminder that staff should recognize that they are a role-model towards the server and many people will look up to you if they care about the community and the servers. We would like to see staff act more maturely overall and specifically when handing out punishments. This is not to say that you can't have fun and be yourself at all, but try to act more responsible and like a role-model to ensure that everyone gets a good impression of the server and so that new members and such will take into account your responsibility and maturity!
If someone disagrees about their punishment, allow them to calmly tell you why they disagree, and supportively direct them to the forums.
I cannot stress enough how important it is that you do not shut someone down and tell them "go make a ban protest lol" if they get in trouble on the servers and they disagree with their punishment. If someone disagrees, talk calmly and respectfully about why they were punished and if things escalate on the servers or if they still disagree, supportively and respectively direct them to the forums and inform them that they should make a ban protest if they feel it is necessary or contact one of the higherups to discuss their punishment. Do not shut people down disrespectfully as it often ensures that they won't come back to the server. Of course, if people continuously argue about the issue, then warn and gag/mute as normal or whatever punishment is appropriate, but always assist them first.
No talking over other people is not only for staff but for other players + regarding when to enforce the rule.
The idea of this rule is so that we don't create extreme chaos with people speaking over each other constantly and so that people don't randomly interrupt people consistently. The rule does not only apply to staff, but also to people on the server. It also does not mean to silence every person who speaks at the same time as you because you are staff. To enforce this rule correctly, pay attention to when they started speaking and if they interrupted someone blatantly rather than if two people accidentally speak around the same time and both don't stop speaking (to a fair and realistic degree).
If someone's mic isn't very good or isn't working, inform them of what isn't working and give advice instead of saying "fix your mic".
Staff should always try to help people if someone on the server's mic has a lot of background noise and assist them in how to fix it rather than just simply stating "fix your mic". For example, if you can hear their in-game audio, tell them to plug in some headphones to prevent the in-game audio from coming through their mic. If they do not comply, then follow the extended mute system up to a day (warn -> mute -> day mute -> hour ban etc).
Staff should always remain unbiased as possible.
In order to prevent unfair punishments and arguments, try to remain as unbiased as possible and put yourself in someone else's shoes before handing out a punishment just in case you feel that you may be being rash. It is impossible to be entirely unbiased and there's no way to prevent that, but try to be as unbiased as possible to a realistic degree to ensure that most people feel that the punishment handed out was just and fair.
Staff members should always be respectful to not only players, but other staff too.
Remember that you are a role-model and that treating others with a lack of respect will not only encourage them to break rules, but also feel unwelcome to the server and community as a whole. Regardless of the situation and whether they are a rule-breaker or not, treat everyone with the same degree of respect. This also heavily applies to staff members. If you don't like a staff member, remember that you are working with them and not against them, and that they are also a member of the community as well and should not be treated any less than such. There has been a lot of drama recently regarding a few staff members and we would like to see no more of that and for everyone to treat each other respectfully.
Try to be less strict regarding the immature voices rule
We are hoping to see staff hold back a bit more regarding the immature voices rule as we feel that staff are jumping to stop people from harmless fun on the mic far too quickly. For example, if someone does an impression of myself having fun on the server, let them but not to a consistent level and as long as people aren't getting annoyed by it. However, do not forget that this is still a rule and is still not allowed, but let people feel a bit more free regarding the rule.
@mrnutty12@Caleb956@Kypari@Natsu@Segal@DiaperHyperWolf@Krampus@Arnude@SegFault@Precious@BonfireCentipede@FrostyBoiGrim@Nozomi@VinylScratch@bagggel@Deko@Owlknight_@Tekage
 

Videos like this prove the TF2 Side of xG is superior. ?

OK, you need to chill out. "Faggot" is still a slur and still offends many gay people today, not to mention that being gay and also the whole bullying aspect for it is a VERY high cause of suicide and depression/anxiety. People have every right to get upset and offended by it. That doesn't mean that it shouldn't be allowed on servers.

I thought a good way to further the use of the marry plugin would be to make a match.com forum of sorts. Basically, one would post in this subforum what classes they play, what servers they play on, etc. How's that sound to y'all?

In-Game Name
Kiriy Division
Team Fortress 2 Previous Member
No Identity
https://steamcommunity.com/id/kiriythememelord/ Age
17 Previously Banned
Yes Time Active on Servers
287+ hours Reason for Joining
I want to help the Xeno Gamers community grow and feel that I have improved greatly since previous applications and bans. I wish to help add content to XG servers, especially maps as I enjoy making team fortress 2 maps as a hobby and love recreating old maps .maybe even get staff in the future if I am ever able to prove myself worthy. I hope to prove myself worthy of the xg tags even more after I am accepted.

There is a game going around called Abstractism and has items that are identical to TF2, CSGO, and DOTA 2 items. Make sure you check that all items you are trading for are from TF2. Also if you own this game in your library, delete it as it has been found to be used to mine cryptocurrency off your computer.
Please be careful out there!

I was denied from being a member again after leaving, it's a shame. All I wanted to do was have fun on the server but as soon as something goes wrong you're thrown away. What happened was small compared to what I seen other members and even staff do and was never a problem with other users or even staff that were present. Not to deny their severity but the incompetence of some of the staff to attend to the matter during it is sorta ridiculous and leaves to a lot of miscommunication with what's acceptable. Even just me being present on the server and talking is taken with over exaggeration from a few users with claims of toxicity despite me never being outright toxic or even passive aggressive, how ever I seen plenty of staff and other members portray a worse tone. I know I could just reapply in 30 days but being denied a membership implies that you aren't wanted. That they're aren't wanted to be associated with this community, to have a stupid tag by your name or have a tag on the forums that almost nobody uses. I don't plan on leaving again and I'm not too bothered by it, but I just find it quite sad seeing as I spent so much time in the server and even donated, albeit small amounts.
This just show's if you're someone new to the server and want to work your way up then you have to be perfect. Unless you're friends with anyone or not try to go against the grain only a little to have fun then you aren't really wanted here. You're better off not trying.

This is a very hard post to make.
Please remove my membership status from forums, discord, etc. 
The main reason I'm leaving is because someone like me, a member who proudly wore the [xG] tag for so long and was a former staff member to boot, shouldn't be representing xG. What happened is I was saying some stupid stuff (like, really bad) on YouTube comments* I regret and am very sorry for. Someone recently brought them to my attention (I forgot all about them). I was immature, and, well I guess I've changed since then. I feel really really bad about them. 
*Don't bother looking for them I deleted my channel 
I want to say sorry to @Tatost and anyone else who may've been affected, and also one last time to @bagggel for something that happened awhile ago where I was also immature in the Minecraft division.
But there's another big reason I'm leaving xG; I just got bored of it. I rarely find myself on xG servers anymore, and as such I'm not very qualified to partake in forum discussions so that's out too. I guess there's just not much here for me anymore ?
I just can't find the words to express my gratitude and love of some of the amazing people I've had the pleasure of becoming friends with here. It's been such a gift to have met such wonderful personalities. @ClassicGamer64 @Natsu @Krampus @virr @Aegean @Chrono @YeEternalTuna @Kypari @CappyCappy @Egossi @ael_fjordling @shwash @TBOHB @Caleb956 (and these are just the people I feel closest to, you guys rock!!)
 xG has no doubt led to me growing as a person and it will always hold a special place in my life.
 
 

T-pose memes are terrible and not funny whatsoever. It's not something that we need at all. 

Greetings members and guests. You may be wondering what in the high heavens has been going on lately. Threads are a mess of toxicity and hate. It's very difficult to pinpoint the actual claims of many a thread, oh dear oh dear.
It is because of this that in this thread I will be trying to explain how to actually engage in constructive dialogue with your fellow xenogamers members.. 
 
Part 1. Make sure any claims you make in any thread are substantiated by verifiable evidence.  
  
For instance, were I to make a thread called "Virr is an incredibly toxic individual who bullies and harasses me daily please demote" it would probably help to have multiple things. Maybe witness testimony that, yes indeed, Virr does do these things. Maybe a screencap of the abuse Virr definitely really sends me on the daily. 
 
However the strongest form of evidence I could provide would be unedited records of the events that had occured in full context. It is very very easy to clip a sentence or two out of context to try and assassinate someone's character
 
Even if doing this somewhat incriminates me, it is better to provide evidence of the occurrence in context. It adds towards the credibility of my claim, as I am obviously not trying to hide any bad acting on my part this way. While this is the strongest form of evidence, that does not mean that Anecdotal evidence is inherently bad. It is especially useful in cases such as abuse through voice. Abuses or violations through voice are especially difficult to gather evidence against, as demos must start being recorded before the event transpires, and it's unreasonable to expect anyone making an abuse report to have been running demos at all times or for them to have enabled some kind of third party recording software. In this situation, you can see how merely the testimony of multiple unrelated individuals might be sufficient evidence worthy of creating a thread about. 
What isn't strong evidence though is "I feel like virr is being toxic because they vaguely don't like me and don't want to communicate with me outside of the platform of xenogamers when necessary". 
Which brings us to step two. 
 
Part 2: Realize that opinions are not really worth discussing if you are not willing to try and back them up. 

We've all got opinions. 'They're like armpits' or some other bottom-of-the-barrel-dad-joke. But generally it's not worth making a thread about an opinion if the most reasoning you have for an opinion is "idk i just feel that way I guess". That's not to say you don't have a right to that opinion, but the point of the forums is to provide some outlet for discussion. If I wanted to make a vote to remove clocktown because I think it's a bad garbage map, but I cannot elaborate on why I think that, it's pointless to even try to discuss it. That's why the vote exists, to just be able to give your input without having to defend it. It would be pointless and unproductive to just constantly parrot "Idk man I want it removed because I think it's bad" (which usually just devolves into a sh¡tstorm). Just create the vote, vote, and be done with it. You'd make just as much progress arguing over whether blue is a better color than green.  
 
Part 3: Please don't needlessly attack other folks' character, thanks. 
This one kind of speaks for itself. Kinda a "love the sinner, hate the sin" kind of deal. Generally you should take issue with what people are saying and not who's saying it. If virr said something as absolutely stupid as...
 
it would still not be acceptable or intelligent to attack virr directly for his opinion on things. Attack his argument, that's fine, but the end goal of discussion is not mindless name-calling. There's a big difference between saying "hey man, I think your opinion is poorly thought through and inconsistent because xyz" and "lol ur dumb nerd". 
 
Part 4: Do not, under any circumstances, posit that you know what anyone's thoughts are unless they've already explicitly stated it.  
This is the big one that really annoys me the most. Like okay Sherlock, we get it, you think so highly of your genius self that you think you've conquered what philosophers worldwide have grappled with for decades, the impenetrable prison of the human mind. 
Here's the reality; you likely do not know what that other person is thinking. Even if they were to explicitly tell you what they are thinking, there's always something lost in the transition from thoughts to words. You can directly quote someone's opinion on a matter, you can try to theorize what their feelings on a matter may be through some amount of evidence, but to approach the matter without delicacy and just assume that you've got an individuals stance or views nailed down with no supporting evidence makes you look like an arrogant idiot who's so strapped for any modicum of support for their claims that you literally have to build a straw-man and burn it to have any impact.  
 
Part 5: Every single person on this planet has a set of biases. 
Everyone has a set of actions, opinions, or choices that they are predisposed to. This brings back the point about being humble. You are not above this. You may think you have no active bias against anyone or even anything, but previous experience and interaction always paints an individual's worldview a certain way. Some biases we can be conscious of, while others we can't. There isn't anything wrong with anyone for having an internal blind bias, it's completely normal, but my hope is that the more people who know about this, the less people will think that someone's bias exists solely to harm them. Just please be kind; as much as you're thinking the other person on the opposite end of the argument is a biased garbage bin, they're probably thinking the exact same about you, and it doesn't help anyone to grow sore over it. 
 
So there it is, my not-so-brief outline on issues with a couple of recent trends in threads. I hope it was at least somewhat coherent and I hope you have a wonderful day. 
Adios
 
 

There's really no need to go and do that, I'd recommend if you're going to do this to get permission from the person who created the map. The hole in question isn't game breaking, and you have to actually be trying to get yourself into it.

There's really no need to go and do that, I'd recommend if you're going to do this to get permission from the person who created the map. The hole in question isn't game breaking, and you have to actually be trying to get yourself into it.

I'm not a furry ?

Because your idea of "majority of people" are just the people most vocal about it. I'm sure a lot more people on the server like the map, just don't have member to vote/don't want to speak up about it.

Because your idea of "majority of people" are just the people most vocal about it. I'm sure a lot more people on the server like the map, just don't have member to vote/don't want to speak up about it.

Because your idea of "majority of people" are just the people most vocal about it. I'm sure a lot more people on the server like the map, just don't have member to vote/don't want to speak up about it.

Because your idea of "majority of people" are just the people most vocal about it. I'm sure a lot more people on the server like the map, just don't have member to vote/don't want to speak up about it.