Ms.Spooks

Big boos is fine. Airstrip is too controversial to remove unfort. Hotel hell is a worse bunker and should be removed I M O

+conc to Jump and my bleed fixed there :c

This promo demo is yikes. Rip to so many people. Also grats to our new mods@Xander @Meaty

All in good health. You come first in a situation like this, kyp. I do hope that getting away from this all will help you!

I forgot to add hotel hell and duketown but aha can't edit it anymore.

Airstrip, seabed, echidna shrine, nimbus. I have others I dislike but not to the extent of I leaving. These ones have unfun designs and/or are generally irritating to play on, imo.

Include the full stats thanks. 11.63 average players is a little low to be making the claim it increases server population. Likewise 450.5 total playtime hours is very low for the connects it gets. Just saying. @mrnutty12

I have never liked this map. to avoid repeating the points already made, I'll focus on some other important issues in regards. It kills the server for starters, because if you don't play sniper you're not having fun. It forces anyone who doesn't want to play snipe or be sniped to either go friendly or leave. It only has 1 resupply closet and it's closer to one team than another. It's boring visually and gameplay wise. Spawn protection exists so literally a sniper will lose a quickdraw just because the last person died. I will keep saying this until evidence is provided to prove me wrong. Airstrip makes bad snipers feel better about themselves.

Glad to be back ?

For some context, I was not online during this; The information I have is provided here and through discord; This is my unimportant opinion on the situation. My main issues with this situation are that Red evaded gag and that what was said wasn't particularly unique in tgh. The gag itself should have been enough of an indicator to not continue the behavior. Unfortunately in the heat of the moment red decided to make a funny and rename himself to evade. A lot of (typically more toxic) randoms tend to use this which issues a kick(since they don't have history in most cases.) Red on the otherhand should know better, but also doesn't have a history(that I know of) for gag evasion. I think this was handled more of a toxicity issue than a gag evasion. Gag evasion, in my opinion, is a lot easier to scale reasonably. The main issue with determining toxicity stems from intent. Someone of ill intent meaning to effectively bully and harass a user would have more to say than what's basically commonplace. For starters, furfag itself is a joke title. Calling people furfags on tgh isn't anything new and in some cases used as friendly banter. I don't think that this case specifically applies for friendly banter however I don't find it alone strong enough to point at toxicity. I do think that some part of the intent with furfag here was ill meaning. "ur so shit" is definitely not in good intent as it's clearly said to make the other party more upset in the same way as saying "ez" and co. Calling furries "fucking weirdos" on a server with a lot of furries is asking for trouble. However, I don't think it's uncommon. Furries being called weird is almost a daily occurrence in terms of tgh conversation from my own experience. I don't think this case was in ill intent. The issue is the timing adds salt to the wound of him already stirring the pot with "shut the fuck up," "ur a fuckhead," and "ez." Lastly, "suck my dick" the ending words and the rename for gag evasion. Two things, saying suck my dick on tgh (where non surprisingly a lot of people are gay) is funny in of itself because the sheer irony. Secondly, saying variations of dick sucking is so uncommon it's a laughable way to end an argument. It's the slightly more vulgar "no u." in my opinion which makes it even funnier. I think that seeing furfag, suck my dick, and "you are all fucking weirdos" aren't really enough on their own with context to show the levels of toxicity that was clearly received. I do think however his shittalking (ur, so shit, ur a fuckhead, ez) Isn't acceptable but still ends up as commonplace on tgh, unfortunately. I think the reasoning was fair from the perspective of Precious. However there is still the can of worms that this behavior *it seems like* is punished on some more than others. I don't think that it's really fair to say that his situation is far worse than if a random joined and did the same actions. I believe the punishment would be delivered in the gag-kick-ban-ban-ban format for a random while Red was already on thin ice, so to speak. He was told to stop, he didn't; he got gagged, he gag evaded. That enough warrants punishment. He was warned on unban, he was warned on server, but the moment escaped him as he made a mistake. I do think that the focus of the punishment should be on the gag evasion and less on the toxicity as there are more members than just him that shittalk just like that and get away with it for god knows why. To be clear I don't have an issue with red personally; I think he can be very chill. The evidence is here that he was not chill at the time. I think that's something he can improve on as he has already improved for the better (as others stated.) He was willing to come back after the first ban and do better he might do better again. I don't think there is a reason to report abuse for this case as precious did what any staff would do in the situation. I think the reasoning is a little debatable as the main breaking point was the gag evasion. Hopefully if he does come back he can reflect on this moment for improvement. It's hard to determine tone over text and what he may have seen as friendly banter might not come across as such. Like I said before this kind of shittalking isn't particularly new on tgh. I'd like to see some consistency for some of the other members who seem to get away with this. While I think the ban was fair I would like to see him come back and try again as he has made improvements. He shows he is capable of doing better. Hopefully he can find a way to bury the hatchet and make amends. In the mean time I'll drop my current worthless +1. Tl;dr Gag evasion should be seen as the main punishment imo Half of the shittalking going on isn't particularly uncommon and others who employ the toxic half should have similar expectations. Saying suck my dick on a server with a lot of gay/bi people is funny as hell. Precious did nothing wrong imo. I hope red can do better, as he has shown, if he comes back.

Personally I'm in the boat that silent member to staff promotions are a bad thing. It opens the doors for favoritism and closes the door for people to say why said people shouldn't be staff. While I can understand the ease of process(as my first time getting staff was silent and when I came back from my break was also silent) It does prevent the discussion from being had of why someone is not optimal for their position. I'm all for reducing personal bias in the application process. It's too easy for someone to be chummy with higher ups and ask for staff i m o. I am also not looking to shit on current staff who have been silent promoted or the higherups who have employed it. I do think that having the opportunity to dispute the promotion with a -1 is a good thing. At the end of the day a -1 can be dismissed if the reasoning isn't clear or accurate but someone who already gets promoted is just going to stir more internal drama from the people who did want them in. All in all though higherups do have the final say. Overall I think that promotions should be handled clearly and well defined so people aren't suddenly surprised that someone else got staff just because they chill in a discord with a higherup. In my opinion the times that silent promotions end up being abused are few and far between. The potential for the worst is still present. ideally bad staff should eventually be siphoned out before they're a problem. However, there are times that moderators who have been silent promoted have gone untouched because either favoritism or not enough evidence of poor performance were provided. I say silent promotions shouldn't be a thing even in the case of returning staff. While it's easy to point out what staff were good previously and they SHOULD be good again it doesn't mean their circumstance hasn't changed. The time away from being staff does affect how the community perceives them. It should be a matter of consistency as essentially they're trying to be staff from member again. Case by case can be more extreme from silent leaving to toxicity or whatnot. Opening a window to air the shit so to speak is a good way to get certain distrusts out of the way. If there are no problems then it shouldn't affect the staff returning negatively. The most that'd be asked of them is just to sum up why they want to be staff again. I'm all for keeping things out from closed doors so to speak. Openness and clarity should be what the community deserves. I think the application process is a good way to provide that outlet. I'm not exactly the most passionate about the subject but I want to throw my two cents in since this ended up getting thrown on my "Hello again." thread in regards to me. That told me a couple things. 1 is that not everyone is happy about how I left and they want to make it clear and 2 It's easy to pass favoritism when you're on the receiving end. I don't care much to stir bad blood, however I don't think they should be denied voicing their complaints (as long as it's within the community guidelines.) Tl;dr That's a no from me.

Might as well have named this thread "Hello again: offtopic edition." No chill.

Btw I meant staff not admin lol

Look to be perfectly clear. I've discussed with the higher ups about coming back. It did get mentioned with a couple if I'd like staff again. They were very clear that I'm starting fresh. If I wanted staff again (which I don't atm) I would have to go through the process like everyone else. I have no interest in causing the problems that made me frustrated enough to leave in the first place. Like I said I'm not looking for a handout. I appreciate your gesture @Tekage though as I'm sure you're meaning well. Me coming back to admin right off the bat wouldn't be fair to the current mods. I know how that feels. if and when I do go for staff everyone *should* have their fair shake. Hopefully that clears this up right quick.

Which I don't atm. I do plan on actually putting an application if I do want staff. I did not leave and come back a month later. Lastly, I literally said multiple times I'm not interested in any position atm. Y'all need to chill.