LucehMcellion

I don't know where to start with this thread, nor if it even matters at all, but I still feel i should make it. Sure, i'm pretty much a no-name here in xG, and I've made myself a stranger here more than anything, and that's fine. This thread is mostly here to explain to those who know me on a bit more of a personal level, and to give an explanation of what's going on with me to them and anyone else who is curious.
 
I'm in a weird spot in life right now, a bit dazed if you can call it that. I try to bring myself to play some good ol' Team Fortress 2, but even then when I bring myself up to play it, the most I play is a couple rounds of some Casual, and I don't spend enough time as I should on any xG servers. I've been trying to get back into TF2, and it's been working slowly so far, but not enough to bring me back into any social groups. I've probably confused anyone reading this, and like I mentioned before, I don't think i'm well known enough for this thread to make that great a difference so I'll end it with this.
 
I'm going to be on a hiatus, and I don't know when i'll be coming back, if at all.

I don't know where to start with this thread, nor if it even matters at all, but I still feel i should make it. Sure, i'm pretty much a no-name here in xG, and I've made myself a stranger here more than anything, and that's fine. This thread is mostly here to explain to those who know me on a bit more of a personal level, and to give an explanation of what's going on with me to them and anyone else who is curious.
 
I'm in a weird spot in life right now, a bit dazed if you can call it that. I try to bring myself to play some good ol' Team Fortress 2, but even then when I bring myself up to play it, the most I play is a couple rounds of some Casual, and I don't spend enough time as I should on any xG servers. I've been trying to get back into TF2, and it's been working slowly so far, but not enough to bring me back into any social groups. I've probably confused anyone reading this, and like I mentioned before, I don't think i'm well known enough for this thread to make that great a difference so I'll end it with this.
 
I'm going to be on a hiatus, and I don't know when i'll be coming back, if at all.

I don't know where to start with this thread, nor if it even matters at all, but I still feel i should make it. Sure, i'm pretty much a no-name here in xG, and I've made myself a stranger here more than anything, and that's fine. This thread is mostly here to explain to those who know me on a bit more of a personal level, and to give an explanation of what's going on with me to them and anyone else who is curious.
 
I'm in a weird spot in life right now, a bit dazed if you can call it that. I try to bring myself to play some good ol' Team Fortress 2, but even then when I bring myself up to play it, the most I play is a couple rounds of some Casual, and I don't spend enough time as I should on any xG servers. I've been trying to get back into TF2, and it's been working slowly so far, but not enough to bring me back into any social groups. I've probably confused anyone reading this, and like I mentioned before, I don't think i'm well known enough for this thread to make that great a difference so I'll end it with this.
 
I'm going to be on a hiatus, and I don't know when i'll be coming back, if at all.

hey I do know you a bit from the forums and game servers
im sad to see you feel that way and hope you can find whatever's best for you, and don't forget you're always welcome back here!

Hey,
 
If you're ever having any hard times in your life, don't ever feel like xG can't help you. We're here for you. Regardless if you're playing on the servers or not, fam.
Do what ever you feel needs to be done, but don't push yourself too hard. We'll always keep your seat warm.

I just wanted to say: best wishes

I don't know where to start with this thread, nor if it even matters at all, but I still feel i should make it. Sure, i'm pretty much a no-name here in xG, and I've made myself a stranger here more than anything, and that's fine. This thread is mostly here to explain to those who know me on a bit more of a personal level, and to give an explanation of what's going on with me to them and anyone else who is curious.
 
I'm in a weird spot in life right now, a bit dazed if you can call it that. I try to bring myself to play some good ol' Team Fortress 2, but even then when I bring myself up to play it, the most I play is a couple rounds of some Casual, and I don't spend enough time as I should on any xG servers. I've been trying to get back into TF2, and it's been working slowly so far, but not enough to bring me back into any social groups. I've probably confused anyone reading this, and like I mentioned before, I don't think i'm well known enough for this thread to make that great a difference so I'll end it with this.
 
I'm going to be on a hiatus, and I don't know when i'll be coming back, if at all.

I don't know where to start with this thread, nor if it even matters at all, but I still feel i should make it. Sure, i'm pretty much a no-name here in xG, and I've made myself a stranger here more than anything, and that's fine. This thread is mostly here to explain to those who know me on a bit more of a personal level, and to give an explanation of what's going on with me to them and anyone else who is curious.
 
I'm in a weird spot in life right now, a bit dazed if you can call it that. I try to bring myself to play some good ol' Team Fortress 2, but even then when I bring myself up to play it, the most I play is a couple rounds of some Casual, and I don't spend enough time as I should on any xG servers. I've been trying to get back into TF2, and it's been working slowly so far, but not enough to bring me back into any social groups. I've probably confused anyone reading this, and like I mentioned before, I don't think i'm well known enough for this thread to make that great a difference so I'll end it with this.
 
I'm going to be on a hiatus, and I don't know when i'll be coming back, if at all.

Yeah like Elcark said I may not know you but that makes it even more sadder because you address the issue in this thread. I hope you come back refreshed and able to play some TF2!

Huh. Of all the recent "Good bye" threads, this one actually makes me a bit sad for some reason. At any rate I may not know you in the least bit but I do hope you come back eventually, if not sooner than latter. Either way, best of wishes for you and I hope life turns out wonderful.

I don't know where to start with this thread, nor if it even matters at all, but I still feel i should make it. Sure, i'm pretty much a no-name here in xG, and I've made myself a stranger here more than anything, and that's fine. This thread is mostly here to explain to those who know me on a bit more of a personal level, and to give an explanation of what's going on with me to them and anyone else who is curious.
 
I'm in a weird spot in life right now, a bit dazed if you can call it that. I try to bring myself to play some good ol' Team Fortress 2, but even then when I bring myself up to play it, the most I play is a couple rounds of some Casual, and I don't spend enough time as I should on any xG servers. I've been trying to get back into TF2, and it's been working slowly so far, but not enough to bring me back into any social groups. I've probably confused anyone reading this, and like I mentioned before, I don't think i'm well known enough for this thread to make that great a difference so I'll end it with this.
 
I'm going to be on a hiatus, and I don't know when i'll be coming back, if at all.

Personally I think this entire idea is a bit silly to really be taken seriously. People could already gamble their credits/items before, so there's really no need for this thread. You shouldn't gamble without staff online as, people can run away/scam others through gambling. Personally, I think it's fine for you to set up games and whatnot, but you can do that on your own time, no point in making this thread. The Trade Gaming History server is almost always full of people, if you want to do events on there just ask people to join. Another thing, even though yes we have permission from MassCC to use their map, it just doesn't feel right to me to be using their map for gambling purposes. If there are specific events you would like to host though, like a giveaway, feel free to message a staff member to help you.

sounds fun

I don't really think this should be added. Trade Gaming History is based off of old games that we used to/still play today and orange maps are part of TF2. We can just go and play an orange server if we want to play on an orange map, whereas Trade Gaming History is where we go if we want to play maps from games such as LoZ, Super Mario (etc). -1

I think if that -1'ing people because you've never seen them should be allowed now because we shouldn't have random people that no one has ever even heard of in xG in my opinion. If other people have heard of them then the vouch would be void.

Honestly, i don't see why you couldn't just lower the requirements to like 2 +1s and not 7 plus an admin (at least for TF2). I honestly don't see how getting 2 members to +1 it is hard. A few times, i have seen people join not even be that much of a conversationalist and still get the vouches because they are active on the server and they see them a lot. Even two vouches seems to be fair because if you wish to join xG, it should take some part on the other person's end to get to know the community. a bunch of new members is fine, but what happens when people try to join the clan under a different name then what is recognized on the servers? For example. Say User A, was is a little bit of a jerk to the point where you can justify a -1, he can theoretically get in because some people just don't pay attention to the member submission, since it's lower down on the website. another concern of mine is that it makes it much harder to tell who is and who isn't in xG with the large amount of member requests that will theoretically be made. I don't know, i think it's just a very dramatic change, could it work? Sure, but i guess my concerns are about what could happen. I'm not sure what the community in CS:GO is like but there are a lot of silly people in TF2. Also i'm just a little concerned about dividing members between Juniors and Seniors. It makes me feel that there is gonna be a sense of superiority over people who haven't been here or who aren't that active on forums. I honestly think that we are all xG members, and just adding junior and senior might be a bit confusing or breed some unforeseen shit-posting. Trust me, I've been on other forums who have had problems like that where people fought over post count and other similar things. (Muthead.com being one of the worst offenders despite being a very informative website)
 
EDIT: also why don't we move the membership forum up on the website? As i mentioned before member submissions are at the bottom of the website, if you wanna push member applications, why not make an advertisement on the website AND move the members section up more and move some of the lesser used forms lower? @Aegean

I could support this. Maybe making that a valid vouch for staff or Dm/DL could work.

Seeing the holy shit like 18 people just got member thing. I honestly dont like this idea anymore. People can join the server once and get in. Wasnt getting in xG supposed to be special? When you had to get like 10 +1s in the past it felt so god damn good to get in. Now you dont even have a vouch limit. Also I dont really understand this Senior/Junior member thing. Does it happen in promo/demos? What kind of tags do they wear? Seeing what has just happened with so much people getting in I feel bad for the people who had to try their best to get member and finally get it like after a month. I know that we want more people in but why couldnt we just reduce the vouch limit again? People arent getting vouched or getting replied to in their submissions because they either havent played and people havent seen them or people are just abstaining. I have so much questions with this new change and I hope someone can answer them.

I was mostly referring to how it's sketchy to have 3800 hours on TF2 in 5 or so years with 58 friends, even though I have far fewer hours in a much longer timeframe with a lot less friends. Unless I misread Vac then my apologies.

If we get more members, that’s a good thing.
 
Valve has a feature where you can auto-join when there is an available spot. Thats the only solution for now.

You fools. You stupid, crazy fools.
Do you realize what you have done? You have effectively opened the floodgates to them all; this will be the end of vouching as we know it.
The structure and integrity of vouches have been buried alive, and I can hear the collective whispers of the damned as the time draws near.
They are coming. You have doomed us all.
The uprising of the "+1 cool guy" is at hand.
 
All jokes aside, I'm pretty skeptical about the new system. I never really saw a problem with the old system where upon reaching 10 positive vouches, the applicant was accepted (where any negative vouches would reduce the total positive) after 24 hours of receiving the final 10th vouch. I completely understand the idea behind this movement, but exclusivity at the cost of getting 10 vouches didn't [and still doesn't] seem like some impossible feat. It gave Players something to work for (as opposed to a generalized ratio of positive to negative vouches which is in effect now) and they could see in real-time where they were at in the review process in terms of monitoring their positive vouches.
 
I personally feel that quality is far better than quantity, and that's what we got when letting Players in to represent Xeno Gamers as a full-time Member through the old system. It ensured that we let quality Players in, not just any Player off of the street, and it gave Xeno Gamers this sort of respectable air around it. Joining Xeno Gamers felt like an honour (to me at the time) and so it felt great to receive all of the vouches I did because I worked hard for them and was rewarded for my efforts by receiving a full-membership. The number of vouches not only gave the community an idea of who the Player was, but it also enabled the Higher-Ups to formulate an opinion themselves because, more often than not, it would take weeks to get in at a time. It gave a decent buffer time for Higher-Ups and enabled them to weed out any Players they deemed 'not worthy'. 2 days just seems too few to really judge a Player.
 
That all being said, if the end-goal is quantity > quality, then it's certainly more effective in that aspect. However, this is all just personal opinion, it's just good to see an active interest from the Higher-Ups in improving Xeno Gamers in any way :coffee:

the amount of time spent to make these massive posts would have been enough to setup a TTT server from scratch probably

Ive seen people play inappropriate stuff in these too many times.

LucehMcellion, NenekuuLucy, 30

My Birth certificate says I'm an adult but I'm still not convinced