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I think the problem with the voice rule is similar to that of the rule against sexually explicit decals. Staff just has their own opinions on where the line should be drawn.
You also said you're not a fan of "staff discretion," and I completely agree. Giving the staff the ability to be super chill or strict depending on their mood is not a good idea.

You're just restating what's already been mentioned by someone else.  The "exaggerated voice" on servers is clearly not to irritate someone.  I've seen a few examples of it being for humor that should've annoy anyone in the first place.  I was even told today "no immature voice allowed" when I answered a question to a surf friend today in a slightly higher pitch than my normal voice in one sentence.  I didn't have the intent behind to annoy anyone with it but as a little burst of humor to lighten to mood of the surf in general, but seeing how up in the air the current "rule" of that is, it creates a no fun allowed feeling in the servers.

If you won't, I will. How could being clear hurt anyone?
No, things did change. You said that the 'no immature voices' rule used to be targeted at young children. Nowhere did it say "you can't make impersonations on mic." You guys recently changed the rule to fit more modern needs. There isn't anything wrong with that, it's just that we're not very good about getting the word around that this or that rule changed, or you got a new rule at the pet store.
I know we have a general updates thread, so can I suggest that we add that to the list of stuff being broadcasted at all times on the server? Ex: "Any changes to the MOTD will be posted in this thread [link], please check this thread to keep informed!"

I don't even know where to start. So recently I've been seeing staff members enforce a rule that was removed ages ago (the ''no immature voice'' rule) and every time I've had to clarify that its no longer a rule (specifically on surf and a few others) I get told to either: (A) Make a thread on it or (B) Don't argue with staff (which is getting super aggravating). Then I get told that this is ''still a rule'' and that it just means ''don't be a moron on mic'' which is EXTREMELY VAGUE and doesn't help AT ALL with that argument. They also just point me to the ''No voice changers or tts programs'' rule but that makes no sense. Then there's also hypocrisy going on with staff where they'd punish you for being [saying something] ''disrespectful'' but then do it themselves. There are also a LOT of problems with the rules and the way staff portray and enforce the rules because theres a lot of ''up in the air rules'' and the rules themselves need to be fixed across ALL of the servers since its so unorganized and sometimes vague.
P.S. Please make sure your staff actually read the rules before they try enforcing anything because from what i've seen the older staff just snowball a non-existing rule(s) into the new staff and it just gets out of control 
P.S.S. Can you PLEASE fix the ''Dont argue with staff'' rule because staff are using it to shut out people when they're in the wrong and they just make up excuses every single time they're called out for something wrong that they did because apparently criticism is now arguing with someone. ?

I do think it'd be a good idea to basically go through all the rules for each server and talk them over or at the least clean them up and make one big list that's up to date and has any unsaid rules or conditions for certain rules. Would also help to make some stuff less up to staff discretion or subjective since then you'd get less issues where someone does something because they thought it was allowed, but then another staff punishes them for it.
Not to say every staff is doing things wrong or such mind you, but it'd help if everyone had similar goals or rules in mind.

Okay, I've seen a few threads on rules being vague, or not being specific enough. Can we just have the higher-ups finally go through the entire list of rules and think among themselves "do we need to elaborate on this?" You guys should also ask the community (members and non-members) for rules they would like to be more specific, as those are the rules they have to abide by and you have to enforce. This way we can actually have a set of rules that don't need to be revised for clarity every few months.
It might be pushing it, but I'll compare this to the Supreme Court of the United States. There are two terms, loose construction, and strict construction. You guys are using loose construction by bending the rules to fit more modern means. (I only use bending because I couldn't think of a better word). However, when you make these changes you guys aren't very good at alerting people "hey we've kind of altered what this means, here's what it means now and why we changed it!" To be completely honest, I'm not sure what is allowed and what isn't anymore. Stuff that used to not fly back in, say, 2016 is welcomed with open arms.
tldr, please be more specific and open about rules, please revise the motd if possible and make sure you don't have to alter them next month. Make your staff members, as well as the regulars aware of the change with a PSA or something. It's obvious that some are unhappy with the clarity of the rules.

A little late, but I like java 

Can the "future" be now? Pretty sure everyone who's seen the thread has made up their mind about what they want, so the poll would be nice : )

for those who want to see the actual connect time

for those who want to see the actual connect time

Changing to +1. Has been pretty active lately

why is a member making a concentration camp joke?

Not if the kids made a silent agreement to learn Morse Code.

Not if the kids made a silent agreement to learn Morse Code.

Why did I read that entire post?
 
Is this a new meme of sorts? I am very bad at keeping up with these sorts of things. I didn't know what a "whip" was until it was dead.

I bet you thought it was a game. Well, it's not. This is real life.
  Did you know that there are over one hundred billion stars in the universe? Do you think it's a game now?  There are multiverses filled with billions of galaxies.  Once a black hole collapses, it creates a new multiverse.  What's life now?  Have you ever been to outer space? If not, then how do you know it's even there?   Where you go from here is up to you. All I can tell you, is that life begins now.       

why is a member making a concentration camp joke?

Attending concentration camp

pretty much no one uses it anymore, and no one has really said anything about it. I'm personally not aware of any actual changes from back when they were required. Saying that it's pretty easy to form an A/M rating it wouldn't hurt to use one.

well a couple of the ones on JB at least; i'll try and finish the fixed version of ba_jail_lotus in a couple days.

An RGB keyboard is pretty nice to have.
An RGB mouse is okay I guess.
RGB headsets are over the top.

pretty much no one uses it anymore, and no one has really said anything about it. I'm personally not aware of any actual changes from back when they were required. Saying that it's pretty easy to form an A/M rating it wouldn't hurt to use one.

oh. didnt see that

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