Tatost 604 Posted July 11, 2017 Unfortunately without a demo I will +1 for unban. I have no doubt Spoopy does believe it's walls, but regardless we have rules in place for situations like this. Unless another staff can verify that he saw his walls, I will +1 his unban if we have rules set for this sort of stuff, I guess I will switch my vouch to a +1 for unban. Anything I would add to this, you already said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiNoYPsYcHo 39 Posted July 11, 2017 You guys do know that screenshots aren't proper evidence when it comes to hacking. Although if there was another person spectating or a staff that witnessed this "unusual" aim every time, then we should consider it as hacking but since there's no other evidence, we need to +1 the unban. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donakonda 56 Posted July 11, 2017 +1 for unban because there is not other evidence to prove if he was hacking or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spoopy 63 Posted July 11, 2017 Unfortunately without a demo I will +1 for unban. I have no doubt Spoopy does believe it's walls, but regardless we have rules in place for situations like this. Unless another staff can verify that he saw his walls, I will +1 his unban Can u bring up the rules that I have to only use demo because I remember there was something about screenshots also. Was other staff online that can support your statements @Spoopy? No staff but me since it was late at night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virr 808 Posted July 11, 2017 Can u bring up the rules that I have to only use demo because I remember there was something about screenshots also. TF2 Staff Manual (Everything you need to know!) | Xeno Gamers As for my opinion, the proof provided isn't enough to make an accurate judgement whether the person is hacking or not. +1 for unban. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elcark 288 Posted July 11, 2017 Can u bring up the rules that I have to only use demo because I remember there was something about screenshots also. . The staff manual does indeed state that evidence can be either demos or "screenshots of malicious activity". The screenshots you have though, while appearing suspicious, don't really have enough to them to differentiate between it being legitimate or just a coincidence. Really screenshots would only be sufficient evidence if it was of chat activity or something else incredibly obvious. Gonna have to +1 for unban solely due to a lack of proper evidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CappyCappy 33 Posted July 11, 2017 I, in fact, was the one that spotted the hacker yesterday. It was on uberupgrades, a server many does not even know of,and the server was practically empty beside some 2 people and him. I killed him many times, which after he threatened to turn on his hacks. I thought : "hmm, just some kid probably an empty threat", so I continued to kill him. Until one time I tried to ambush him at a corner.I was COMPLETELY UNSEEABLE. Then he aimed the rifle at the wall, AT MY HEAD, and slowly moved over and shot me. I thought : Meh, probably a coincidence. I killed him more times, and I tried to ambush him again. Same thing happened. I was then getting suspicious, and baited him many times. To this point it was clear that he was wallhacking, so i msged spoopy, the first staff member I saw on my friends list. Spoopy came and I baited him more.It was there when spoopy took his screenshots. He wasnt even trying to hide the hacks. -1 for unban. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CappyCappy 33 Posted July 11, 2017 I, in fact, was the one that spotted the hacker yesterday. It was on uberupgrades, a server many does not even know of,and the server was practically empty beside some 2 people and him. I killed him many times, which after he threatened to turn on his hacks. I thought : "hmm, just some kid probably an empty threat", so I continued to kill him. Until one time I tried to ambush him at a corner.I was COMPLETELY UNSEEABLE. Then he aimed the rifle at the wall, AT MY HEAD, and slowly moved over and shot me. I thought : Meh, probably a coincidence. I killed him more times, and I tried to ambush him again. Same thing happened. I was then getting suspicious, and baited him many times. To this point it was clear that he was wallhacking, so i msged spoopy, the first staff member I saw on my friends list. Spoopy came and I baited him more.It was there when spoopy took his screenshots. He wasnt even trying to hide the hacks. -1 for unban. If there was an audio record of some sort you will clearly hear him talking abut hacks. And, if you check the kill log, you will see that he ONLY killed me with headshots, where other times I killed him every time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CappyCappy 33 Posted July 11, 2017 @Aegean @Basquiat @Elcark P.S.: This section's posts needs to be editable. 1 Shining reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tatost 604 Posted July 11, 2017 @Elcark Why did you tag elcark lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CappyCappy 33 Posted July 11, 2017 Why did you tag elcark lol Cuz admin? 1 Moosty reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aegean 849 Posted July 11, 2017 @Shining do you have anything to say to these claims before we make a decision? They are claiming you not only hacked, but you threatened to hack in the first place. If you turned on walls then your story doesn't add up dude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virr 808 Posted July 11, 2017 @Aegean This section's posts needs to be editable. It's intentionally set up that way to prevent people from editing their story, etc. The only one who can change stuff on forums is @Rhododendron btw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elcark 288 Posted July 11, 2017 which after he threatened to turn on his hacks. -1 for unban. Player Chat History | Xeno Gamers It doesn't change that the evidence isn't sufficient, but looking at his lmaobox spam in chat i'm very inclined to believe he made such claims about turning on hacks as stated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spoopy 63 Posted July 11, 2017 When your a shit mod and other people have to clean up for you kek. were's my demote. 1 1 1 2 TBOHB, yesstergi, Elcark and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites