PSA: New rule regarding sprays, avatars and customizable items

[virr 808]

Gonna bring up a few thoughts then.

Agreed. Hell, even earlier today other...

 

We'll get a conversation going and hopefully get back to you guys at the beginning of next week.

 

Just to keep the conversation rolling until then, it would be nice if you guys let us know your own thoughts. What should/shouldn't be allowed and where do we draw the line, in your opinion?

[Bone 364]

What should/shouldn't be allowed and where do we draw the line, in your opinion?

 

Anything that would get you charged with Public Indecency here in the states.

 

In seriousness, actual showing of genitals, either through clothing or not. A lot of players were talking about if whether or not "bulges" would be allowed, and honestly I feel like that's on the edge, since the character in the spray could be fully clothed at the time. As long as the clothes aren't see-through, then I guess it doesn't really count unless there's an extreme amount of detail put into it.

 

Another addition to that could be anything considered "sexually explicit" or an image suggestion something sexually explicit. I've seen a lot of cliche "anime girl sucks on popsicle" type animated sprays.

Although not technically anything explicit or involving nudity, it's suggesting something explicit, but I personally don't feel like it would break any rules (as long as there's no nudity or it's extremely suggestive...).

Even then, would a spray like this be considered "extremely suggestive"?: (Click here for it since I don't want to run the risk of it being a no-no)

 

As for what @Elcark brought up about bikinis or skimpy clothing. Most public beaches have rules to where bikinis cross a line to being not allowed. Pretty much anything that shows the genitals or areas around it, as long as it's technically a part of the genitals. So nothing like "Oh, the thighs are near the crotch so that's not allowed!". I feel like that could be used as well, since I've seen a lot of sprays like that.

 

Someone else could add on to this, but I feel a good base is the "No nudity" rule and maybe a "No silhouettes/shapes resembling genitals or nudity". Since we get more sprays involving that than anything else.

[Thorax_ 539]

@Forest

We need some words of wisdom from the god of moss and everything green!

[Egossi 1017]

If you guys are legit thinking of censoring/disallowing swastikas or images of hitler himself especially in a joking manner and take it as "hate symbols" ill actually go join hellsgamers instead

[Kypari 579]

If you guys are legit thinking of censoring/disallowing swastikas or images of hitler himself especially in a joking manner and take it as "hate symbols" ill actually go join hellsgamers instead

I don't think it's pictures of Hitler, more so the actual Swastika. Don't quote me on that.

[Egossi 1017]

Also why not say "no pornograpghic content" rather than "no nudity" which disallows artistic nudity etc.?

 

Also how will it be determined that a girl in a drawn sexualized image is a minor? Seems unreasonably vague to me.

 

What do you consider hate symbols?

 

What exactly do you mean bt derogatory content, perhaps give an example?

[Forest 309]

@Forest

We need some words of wisdom from the god of moss and everything green!

 

Won't lie, I skimmed most of the posts here, but I'm just going to throw this out there: y'all are [probably] over-thinking this entire situation. Back before this was such a huge deal, we had one golden rule that blanketed everything and it was this (ye old fags will remember this one):

 

if you wouldn't be caught dead viewing whatever it is you're looking at on the servers at a professional level (IE. at work, school, etc), then it most likely isn't PG13 and thus should not be permitted. Or to put this in an even more concise way, if you wouldn't want your teacher/professor/superior seeing you looking at it, odds are it is not PG13.

 

That is literally the easiest way to go about it without throwing a wrench into the whole thing by asking what "nudity" is defined as (seriously?) or whether a spray is acceptable/unacceptable. With that said, come on people; go to a beach and then go to a 'nudist' beach if you need a clear definition of what constitutes nudity.

 

As for everything else, use your common sense because for the thousandth time, it does not matter if it's a minor/animal/cartoon in a sexualized position, it's still a freaking 'something' that is emphasizing the whole sexualized aspect. Therefore, it is not allowed on our Servers and should thus be punished accordingly by the rules set-in-place.

 

I mean for the love of God, it shouldn't be this difficult to determine what is PG13 and what isn't :coffee:

Edited August 5, 2017 by Forest (see edit history)

[Bone 364]

Won't lie, I skimmed most of the posts here, but I'm just going to throw this out there: y'all are [probably] over-thinking this entire situation. Back before this was such a huge deal, we had one golden rule that blanketed everything and it was this (ye old fags will remember this one):

 

if you wouldn't be caught dead viewing whatever it is you're looking at on the servers at a professional level (IE. at work, school, etc), then it most likely isn't PG13 and thus should not be permitted. Or to put this in an even more concise way, if you wouldn't want your teacher/professor/superior seeing you looking at it, odds are it is not PG13.

 

That is literally the easiest way to go about it without throwing a wrench into the whole thing by asking what "nudity" is defined as (seriously?) or whether a spray is acceptable/unacceptable. With that said, come on people; go to a beach and then go to a 'nudist' beach if you need a clear definition of what constitutes nudity.

 

As for everything else, use your common sense because for the thousandth time, it does not matter if it's a minor/animal/cartoon in a sexualized position, it's still a freaking 'something' that is emphasizing the whole sexualized aspect. Therefore, it is not allowed on our Servers and should thus be punished accordingly by the rules set-in-place.

 

I mean for the love of God, it shouldn't be this difficult to determine what is PG13 and what isn't :coffee:

 

It's good that it blankets several things all at once, but it could also be too vague in it's definition. Since you know, uhh:

 

I haven't seen the PG - 13 rule on the servers in a while (in the MOTD). At least a year or more. Although I wouldn't mind something like this implemented again since it makes things much simpler. Hell, maybe this whole thing became an issue due to this being changed, who knows? All I know is that we need something that is set and not just hearsay because players (and even staff members) are being told their sprays aren't allowed while others say it's fine.

 

It's not even the sprays themselves I'm being bugged by, it's the disorganization and confusion among Staff members over a rule that should be relatively simple.

Edited August 5, 2017 by Guest (see edit history)

[TBOHB 74]

So I don't want to be gravedigging, but this was just sprayed on tgh and it is REEEAAALLLYYY pushing it for the rules. Honestly I think we should draw the line here. I asked him and he said it was allowed. Call me oversensitive on this, but I'm just throwing it out there.

[Kypari 579]

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So I don't want to be gravedigging, but this was just sprayed on tgh and it is REEEAAALLLYYY pushing it for the rules. Honestly I think we should draw the line here. I asked him and he said it was allowed. Call me oversensitive on this, but I'm just throwing it out there.

I think at that point it becomes subjective to staff. I know @Elcark has had issues with @Krampus sprays even if they don't directly violate the rules but still come extremely close

[realBelloWaldi 1245]

I think at that point it becomes subjective to staff

Yeah. If you ask me that is fine since it does not show nipples or genitals.

[Krampus 42]

To be honest I honestly don't care too much as it is a game server and you can't expect everyone to not have some kind of lewd sprays (including me), so I'm pretty lenient unless it directly shows the like the nipples or something of the sort where then I will yell at the person. Smelly

Edited December 26, 2017 by Krampus (see edit history)

[Spoopy 63]

Xg wants to keep a pg-13 server, but when you look at xg’s discord there’s a nsfw ch

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Idk why you guys even have issues with these problem. Ya got Lewds but no nudes.

So I’m agreeing with @Bello here.

[Elcark 288]

Xg wants to keep a pg-13 server, but when you look at xg’s discord there’s a nsfw ch

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Discord NSFW Channel Discussion

[Bone 364]

Xg wants to keep a pg-13 server, but when you look at xg’s discord there’s a nsfw ch

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Idk why you guys even have issues with these problem. Ya got Lewds but no nudes.

So I’m agreeing with @Bello here.

 

That's because of the difference between the server provider's ToS and Discord's ToS. That's why certain things are allowed (in the proper place) on Discord and not on the servers.