Hidingmaster

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Alright so here is the issue. Whether or not spamming ratings is "bannable" does not mean its the appropriate action to take. It is highly annoying and 100% unnecessary. Normally we don't worry about it and tell people to turn off the notifications because of how petty it is. This case is a little different in which Kitty has been told, many times, to talk to a CL or DL/DM if there are further issues. She went against this advice and retaliated yet again. There is obviously no reason for stumpy or forge to be talking the way they did in shoutbox, it just isn't respectful. Forge sure in the hell should know that, and stumpy... c'mon. Stumpy was already banned for a day and warned due to his actions in shoutbox and posting on the forums. I have dealt with issues of disrespect, harassment, unnecessary posting, and spamming about 5 times this week. It's going to stop here. CL's are done dealing with the disrespect and dishonesty that constantly goes on now. We went into most issues with an optimistic look, trying to see what we could do to remedy the situation and make all sides at least somewhat happy. No more lenience from us. With that being said here is the decision regarding this thread. Stumpy and Kitty (Forge may apply if he continues as well): If CL's, or even others with forum powers, get even the slightest hint of the following -Disrespect -Harassment -Unnecessary arguing -Rating spam -Passive Aggressiveness -Attention seeking -Shitposting -Or really anything that shows a lack of maturity and respect for other members a PERMANENT forum ban will be immediately applied. And there's no if ands or buts about it. CL's or others with forum powers need to consult with preferably 3 or more others (CL's or others of equal power) before initiating a ban, just to make sure it's in fact justified. All we ask is for EVERYONE to be mature about situations. You can have fun and joke around, but know the limits. Remember that although the internet allows you to hide behind a monitor, your words still affect people like it would in a face-to-face conversation. You would think I don't have to remind people about this, but apparently the internet makes you all think that if you can't see someone, why does it matter what I say? I highly suggest you don't test our limits with this. Harassment will not be tolerated and apparently this is the action that needs to be taken.

Expect official CL response shortly.

Remove it from css. Please.

+1 great in game name, has mic. But seriously deserves unban.

Sound the alarms. Hide the children. Nomulous was vac banned and the world is ending. It's not a big deal.

Warrior and Asock, there's no reason to be so rude, honestly its starting to be very disrespectful and I am greatly offended. All you all do is harass whoever you can get to respond to you guys. I responded to the original thread with no rude remarks, no insults, nothing. I responded asking for a better look into ASocks side of the story. The second I do that you all attack me. You take for granted the things that people do to make this a better place. You attack those that honestly do the best they can. I'd appreciate it if you could all just stop for once. I have no problem with people voicing an opinion and standing by it, but what you guys do is shameful. You put people down. I should have banned a majority of you all a long time ago for the disrespect and harassment. Seriously, stop. Just stop. The fact that you can't see the person on the other side of the forum doesn't mean they aren't affected. You would never pull this stuff in real life, or at least I hope not. If your goal has been to ruin my night, you have gone above and beyond that, so congrats. I actually feel like shit because of it. So thanks a lot.

You were banned for continuing to harass Chrono, yet you still do so like you haven't learned your lesson. You bring your group of friends to the forums to post a thread that has a little validity but reeks of something else. I then reply and get a rude answer from you, then spammed by you and others when I close it. It's blatant trolling and its obvious who is doing it. Also, if it was only for nomulous you can message him directly, anything on forums is really meant more for the CL's. Can you go ahead and post your chat logs as well as warriors? Or were you spamming me? Also, you may want to go ahead and remove that signature. Its just another avenue in which you are trolling.

Thread was made to troll, although I dont mind talking it over @DrLee @Gawd @ThePenguin @diabeetus Closed.

Alright. First off, cut the crap right now, I ain't dealing with it; I came here to have a mature conversation about this. And they aren't necessarily in their bra and panties, thats based on personal opinion. I really don't see anything wrong with them, which is why i asked.

I've seen NSFW be used a few times, but generally they are changed quickly after somebody lets them know its not allowed. I don't really consider those two that you posted to be NSFW, explain why you think so?

I shall clear some things up first. "I have decided I am leaving xG. There are a number of reasons I have to do this and none of them are any fault of mine. First of all the way the CLs handled the whole member protest problem was embarrassing and the final outcome even more so. Not entirely sure how it was embarrassing. What would have been embarrassing is if we had given bans based on evidence without checking further into things. It also would have been embarrassing for us to give a decision within minutes of the thread. We took our time to come to a conclusion that addressed a number of issues. Just because you put up a ban request doesn't mean we are going to ignore other sides of the situation. For example: If someone puts up a ban protest for someone mass freekilling, and we go through the evidence and find that someone was warden and told them to kill everyone, then we address all issues and two people get banned for different amounts and reasons. I will not accept my demotion for doing nothing wrong, I would love an example where I have abused my responsibility as a mod to warrant a demotion, can't find one? neither can I. You had admitted to retaliation. No matter what circumstances it is, harassment is harassment. You said they did it to you and that you did it back to them. You can't use someone elses actions as an excuse to act improperly. We have a responsibility to stop harassment against all members, not just one. You were not given a forum ban because of the much lesser extend to which you harassed others. There were other outlets you had to take care of the situation as well, which included contacted your DM or DL, or any CL who would have taken care of the situation. All the issue needed was an announcement from a CL to those involved to cease fighting or be punished but all we got were unnecessary demotions and bans which were lifted anyway so that makes it even more pointless! The issue did not need an announcement, especially since you made a big deal out of it. Had it "just needed an announcement" I would have thought you would have confronted us about it. CL's had no say in bans that were lifted, that was purely something that is in Silence's hands. I am not angry at any of those involved in the protest. I have made amends with the majority of those involved and there are no further issues. That is not the reason I am leaving. I am leaving because of the CLs and the way this clan is run (with the exception of Nomulous). I was so angry after I saw the outcome of the protest I was thinking of leaving right there and then but I kept going until the next promo demo as I heard the demotions were a temporary demotion and everyone will be re promoted next promo demo. This is not just me I feel unjustified for I also feel for Moosty. Yes he made that picture which was wrong but he apologised for it and he should not of been demoted either. Any demotion is a temporary demotion. Members that are truly "dedicated TF2 Div trade members" would not leave a clan. You can never expect to receive a promotion, especially when the same kind of behavior continues after the punishment in which you lost your powers. Everyone did get promoted the next promo demo though, but CL's turned down all but starmix; he has shown maturity and generally stayed out of most issues since the punishment which cannot be said for the rest and thus why they were all denied promotion. What baffles me is the only person who got demoted in the protest and got his powers back is StarmiX. This obviously points to favourism and I refuse to be in a community that favours some members above others. I don't even think i've met starmix. Don't assume when you don't know the truth. Actually, come to think of it, I don't think i've played or let alone held a conversation with any of you before this incident. Its hard for me to play favorites with someone i dont know. I was told by Hiding "you must earn your mod again" sorry but no. Yes. Nobody will ever get mod handed to them. There was nothing stopping you from receiving it again, and chances are you would have got it back next time. I already earned it and did a good job with it, you demoted me and Moosty without knowing how much effort we put in to the TF2 div trade servers. You're an idiot and how you are a CL baffles me. I cannot say one way or another about your mod performance, and i'm sure you earned it the first time. But, you actions, along with others, caused mod to be lost. I'm the furthest thing from an idiot, but thanks for insulting me (it reinforces our decision). I really don't appreciate you calling me an idiot, that can be considered verbal abuse and harassment if it continues. so well done CLs on this clan losing one of the most active, friendly and dedicated TF2 Div trade members. Give yourselves a pat on the back and maybe learn how to run a community properly because you are clueless, corrupt and idiotic from what I've seen. Can you go ahead and let us know exactly how we are clueless, corrupt and idiotic? As far as I can tell we handled it in the best way that we could, although hopefully we can get answers a little faster. I will still play the servers sometimes but I am not affiliating myself with xG." Hope to see you around. Feel free to message us with any further questions.

hey

Yes it is gun spamming. I don't mind if it's 1 or 2 guns though. Also last ct cannot use it if I remember correctly... @DrLee

Three months later... Closed

Hola

Closed. Denied.

Closed. Banned and if there is membership, its removed. @Ribbit do not wear tags in the servers.

@ThePenguin @Gawd @DrLee @diabeetus This ain't the ice bucket challenge where you get "24 hours" (or to be honest it was like 3 days) to respond. Someone provide input or I'll take care of it myself. You got like 3 hours.

Another CL respond so this can be taken care of...

I also +1 removal of membership with 2 week forum ban. Plenty of evidence to support this. @ThePenguin @Gawd @DrLee @diabeetus

Bye

I'll agree that there really is no reason to be upset or irritated by the ratings as they are just there for fun. I can understand it does get annoying when people spam you with ratings, but you can always turn off the notification. Is it mature to spam ratings on people you don't like? No. But I think the situation worth focusing on here is the disrespect. Inb4 another long example of the problem. "How about no one cares. There was already a thread for this pathetic stuff." -Jul. 23 2014 "Pretty sure what I said made sense, unless you're an idiot." -Jul 24 2014 "12 year olds are considered people?" -Jul 26 2014 "Can you just shut the cs:s servers down already? (And save the money, none of the other shitty divisions are worth putting money into, they're all just terrible.)" -August 6 2014 "So I was just playing RPG surf, then this raging little kid, named "Bonk" came on. and "I don't understand why you let little kids run rampet with mod? Something has to be done about this travesty, and for the future of xG. Please no more bad mods!" -Sept 10 2014 "No, I just find it amazing how the shitty TF2 div always tries butting into css division stuff. Get the fudge out." - Sept 10 2014 "Just because you missed your nap-time doesn't mean you have the right to take it out on the servers, this always leads to abuse! And you argued and disrespected back boy, so watch your mouth." -Sept 10 2014 "You think I give a fuck about you bitches crying about disrespect? Everyone fucking disrespects, you disrespected, if you think I'm not going to disrespect an idiot who can't comprehend basic things and tries to act superior to people, even though they're 12, you have another thing coming." -Sept 10 2014 "He didn't ask if I was in xG, he just flat out said "I know for a fact you're not in xG" and proceeded to kick me." - Lying on forums - Sept 10 2014 "Funny, perm ban me because I'm better than you all then -1 me because I don't take kindly to idiots." -Sometime "Are you retarded? It doesn't show a view of me getting kills, all it shows is the kill-tracker showing my kills. And it's funny how the faggy TF2 div is posting on a cs:s div thing." -Sometime "unban me faggots." "Are you the one that ruined xG's population?" So yeah. Also the chat logs from Surf.. etc.