Hidingmaster

What a fucking embarassment. The way this thread has gone is absolutely disgraceful. I'm all for letting people have opinions and feel no matter the opinion it should be respected. But newsflash, there is a time and place for your opinions. If someone simply makes a thread to alert people of a certain lifestyle change and a want to be called by a different pronoun, you don't need to berate/post your opposing opinion. Not one time did she ask for how you thought of her and her choices. Just because you have a freedom of speech means jackshit when youre being an inconsiderate human. There's a time and place. Also, @ArminArmout just let us know if you want the thread closed or specific posts deleted and I will gladly do so. If anyone decides to troll or harass armin, or anyone for that matter in the future for lifestyle choices, you better expect an instant ban. There's certain basic and inalienable rights, one is certainly the ability to live however you want without harassment and bullying. And don't get discouraged or bothered by the people who made comments against you. It's only that they don't understand what it is like to be in your situation, which you can probably understand can be confusing to those not knowledgeable about its specifics. You should never feel less than others, or like an outcast, you are just like the rest of us. Obstacles are presented to everyone, but what makes the true heroes stand out are those that don't let these obstacles stop their progress. You keep being you, and remember that there are always people here that will support you.

Oh hi.

It's 20 to stop people from leaving and reapplying wherever they want. I'm not entirely against lowering it, but not to 10.

I see where you're coming from, but remember I haven't been part of any promo discussion in months. I asked for it time and again. Right now I have now power, and tbh I see nobody giving a fudge about what I posted meaning nothing will change. The only way we remove bias is leave the decisions to one or two people. IMO there needs to be a change in leadership woth ALL decisions of importance going through one or two people that have shown they can make honest decisions, not a variety of people who can't make a proper decision... But I do understand the issues your arise, but until changes happen at the top nothing can change below.

I love you. :(

Alright let me give an opinion from my perspective. I'll preface it by saying that 1) This is a 100% honest opinion, thus I'm not holding anything back and not sugar coating the issue. 2)I don't know what I'll be writing, but if I target someone specifically, its not because I dislike you, but an issue I think needs addressing. TL;DR: The organization of staff is messed up, doesn't work, and needs to change. Back when Community Leaders was first implemented there were a lot of assumptions that were made. The first of which is that the CL's would essentially have a final say in most matter, except those that Silence would become involved in. This would be done by a 3/5ths vote, where at least 3 "Yes" votes would need to be obtained before any action taken. This worked well, and CL's had good communication. Obviously as of recent, actually the last... year, the communication has dropped completely. The CL's are supposed to ALL SEE the promo demo list before it is posted. I have no seen one it a long time. Yes, I have asked numerous times why I am no longer included in this list, but have not received one response from the other CL's. Apparently Dr. Lee is the only one that sees it as far as I know. If there is an issue in the clan guess who should deal with it - All the CL's. Guess who does deal with it - one or two CLs without any attempt to contact the other ones. Hmm doesn't sound like a very good group anymore huh? Also, I've sure many people have noticed only a few CLs actually put opinions on important issues on the forums (Diabeetus and I). Yes, Dr. Lee does chime in, but it seems that it can take forever to get responses from the rest of the CLs. I'm not saying im perfect on replying, but I do make an effort to respond in a timely fashion and think I do this for the most part. Not sure about the other CLs, but I highly doubt they take the effort to follow up on issues. Example: On Jul 17th Diabeetus posted a thread in admin discussion to follow up on Vector's change in ban. I responded same day, saying that there was a problem with the chain of command and I wasn't going to post my opinion until we figured out who is allowed to change bans, who is in charge, etc. Silence responded, and that was it until i followed up on the 23rd to see what was going to happen regarding the ban. Asked TF2 why they permed him. diabeetus responded, saying he was waiting for the other CLs opinions (fine with me). Dr. Lee finally responds on the 23rd. That was the extend of the thread. Nobody solved anything. I eventually talked a little more to vector to figure out more, and we wrapped up his side of the issue. Do the other CLs personally message people to solve issues? I highly doubt it. I rarely see anyone other than me or diabeetus actually do any work related to the CL position. Next issue.... what the hell was the reasoning behind removing leadership roles? Silence should be leader, nom developer (although what power you should have is a topic of debate, nothing against you hun just clarification needed), and MAYBE a CL position with people that have time to dedicate to the clan (Or 2 co leaders imo). Issue #72. COMMUNITY LEADERS NEED POWER FFS. Powers I don't have that make it hard to do a proper job: 1) Teamspeak powers. I got locked out of my channel and couldn't do jack about it, what kind of sense does this make for a COMMUNITY LEADER not to have power in TS and solve issues immediately for people? 2) The ability to use our forum powers and the ability to use our ball of mush inside our head to settle issues? It complete bs that we need to get the approval of john, bob, smitty, bojangles, tim, maryann and martha, my mom, his dad, and Obama's permission to do anything. DO YOU KNOW HOW EASY MY JOB WOULD BE IF PEOPLE WOULD TRUST ME TO MAKE A DECISION ON MY OWN. Issue #91. Activity in games from CL. I know we don't have the best activity in our active divisions. I mean division, TF2. But I would like to say at least i've made attempts to join and mingle. When dodgeball first opened i was on for a few times at least, and recently I popped on JB several times. I know it aint steller, but at least know im trying. Issue#92. Bias. There is so much Biasness in the leadership right now it isn't even funny. Whether or not people think I am I don't care, but just know that I dont give a fudge if your a friend of mine or not. I try my best to judge everyone with the same baseline. Anyway, rant over. Feel free to ask me questions, comment, hate on me, whatever.

I mean nobody would really say no to it, but is the time investment worth the switch... Probably not.

Alright somebody help me out here, I must be missing something. Why would anyone post a ban protest/staff submission/member app and not show a level of maturity? I can't tell anymore if you people are actually serious about getting mod/unbanned or you just come here because yolo mom let me stay up late and I have nothing else to do. I have nothing against Bach, or Vector who posted the same way, but seriously guys? I can't even get through the original post without realizing the thread is full of bs. Aint nobody getting powers or unbanned if you cant, for one time (THE MOST IMPORTANT TIME), be serious. And the people who +1.. What? Either a) You dont care about sincerity and people changing what got them in trouble in the first place. B) #friends and it dont matter. Or c) +1 lol. Good lord. End rant. No, -1. Also advice to everyone: The only thing ever stopping you from getting a leadership role is yourself. It may be lack of activity, attitude, or one of many other things. But nobody else is truly stopping you. It doesn't come down to if hidingmaster, silence, kbraszzz, or anyone dislikes you. It comes from your actions, your words, your choices. Don't blame others for the situations you get into or don't get into. This not only applies to places like xG, but everywhere in life.

Trying to clear this up, both for you and me. What I'm assuming is that he is referring going back against the permanent ban, saying that the shorter ban was fine (iirc thats what happened). So if thats what he is referring to, then yes we did have a say.

Yes Vector, as a CL I am just making straight up lies now. Come on now, no need to attack me for an opinion. Just as Ohstopyou stated, I am also fine with working with you if you actually show that you are changing. We are hardly here to be biased against you, I honestly don't care if you are banned or not as it has little effect on me. What I am concerned about is that you want this thread to be taken seriously, but I'm getting the notion that you still expect to get into arguments with others and have not changed. Why would we remove a ban for something when we aren't confident the issue has been resolved?

The issue I have to the sheer amount of chances that Vector has been given over the last several years, and there is no true intention I see here to change his behavior in the clan. He was banned because he had been given enough warnings. I'm all for second chances, but when it because a fifth chance? Not without a true and honest effort to change what was wrong in the past. Sorry Vector. -1

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Ladies please, keep it civil.

From TS rules..

Also I am taking over this thread. It is now a ban request as I have proof that @MrJeeblez has tried to hack which is against xG rules. The proof is provided in the above screenshots.

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@Stickz

Post Lenny face -> gets asked not to -> posts it again -> gets mad. Something is flawed in this logic.

I don't know what happened, but every single person in this clan has lost it.

I mean.. We only need one rating if we got an america one.

Yeah, I saw this wayyy back in the convo. But it was ignored and never brought up again.

So just wondering, why has Iggy not been discussed in the slightest about getting his bans changed as well? Certain people fought feverishly for vector, but somehow forgot the idea of fair punishments. Iggy was way less of an issue than vector was, yet he gets stuck with a worse punishment because of bias or what? [uSERGROUP=23]@Community Leader[/uSERGROUP] @Moosty @metalslug53 @Dethman @kbraszzz @Kyoko @Ohstopyou @Rejects @Nomulous @Rhododendron

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