NitNat

alright buddy, put the toes down and nobody gets hurt

Have before, probably will again one day.

I never posted one of these.
Hi, Im Frosty, and if you thought this was me leaving you just got PRANK'D *dab*
Now that you've been dabbed on, I just wanted to say Hi because I forgot to post one of these. Also here's some info on me because why not.
•My b-day is Feb 14th, 2003 (yes Valentines day)
•I live in California and have only lived on the west coast of the USA
•Im thicc
•I love peanut butter with a burning passion
•While I am straight, I will still beat it to gay porn and literally fudgein anything else because im a horny cunt
•I'm a straight white male because idk
•I hate political talk only because im terrible at it
•I like anime because I like cartoons and I dont give a flying fudge where its from
•I love music and play the clarinet 
•I insult people because im somewhat jocular with people I consider peers.
•I act like a know it all because I secretly fear that im retarded and everyone else is way smarter than me
•I am opinionated but try not to let it jade me

+1 and no it’s not because we are close friends, because we only started actually talking like 2 weeks ago. It’s because when he was actually staff he did enforce the rules like anyone else fairly, and still got so much crap from people for doing so. I can tell he actually wants to make a difference on how staff are viewed in a negative light

-1 Immature, causes a lot of controversy

-1 Good as a member, but people had lots of issues with you as staff.

+1 and no it’s not because we are close friends, because we only started actually talking like 2 weeks ago. It’s because when he was actually staff he did enforce the rules like anyone else fairly, and still got so much crap from people for doing so. I can tell he actually wants to make a difference on how staff are viewed in a negative light

+1 and no it’s not because we are close friends, because we only started actually talking like 2 weeks ago. It’s because when he was actually staff he did enforce the rules like anyone else fairly, and still got so much crap from people for doing so. I can tell he actually wants to make a difference on how staff are viewed in a negative light

+1 and no it’s not because we are close friends, because we only started actually talking like 2 weeks ago. It’s because when he was actually staff he did enforce the rules like anyone else fairly, and still got so much crap from people for doing so. I can tell he actually wants to make a difference on how staff are viewed in a negative light

+1 and no it’s not because we are close friends, because we only started actually talking like 2 weeks ago. It’s because when he was actually staff he did enforce the rules like anyone else fairly, and still got so much crap from people for doing so. I can tell he actually wants to make a difference on how staff are viewed in a negative light

That’s something more to pm him about tbh if it’s genuine, posting it on this thread shows you’re going in full defense mode to save your behind

I made a post about this in the past but I will again, I have been here on and off since 2010 and you can't avoid nepotism in a gaming community that is full of volunteers + kids. I have had problems with it even when I rejoined and defended you @Brian, and you know I will always speak my mind if someone is in the wrong. I won't let *majority rule* make me disregard my own thoughts if I strongly disagree about something, so I don't really think it is that much of an issue if I'm involved. Same goes for @virr who is much more closely involved with TF2 than I am, I trust his decisions to the point where I would never have to second guess him, but he still asks my opinion time to time cuz it doesn't hurt to have a second perspective.
The thing is, if you're friends with a group of people, it's generally going to be an echo chamber of like-minded views, and disagreeing will be out of the norm, so it doesn't surprise me a group of friends will agree with one of their own on a point of view they share, and how would we even moderate it? 

Your point on staff as well, of course if John Doe is friends with Admin or Division leader X while showing interest to moderate, they will more than likely get the position if they fit the bill over someone who is quiet or isn't as noticeable. When you're on the servers, there is only so much you can do to "prove" you can be a good moderator, and a lot of it is your personality and how friendly you are with current staff. This kind of poop happens even in the work force, unless there's some kind of stat they can track (i.e. sales).
I will say though, that anyone who thinks Brian made this post to start a poopstorm and that he doesn't care about xG needs to really think about their implication, because he would not waste time to make a post like that if he didn't care. You should see the threads I made when I left xG, specifically about various staff who were dragging the clan I worked so hard on down to the gutter.

 

That’s something more to pm him about tbh if it’s genuine, posting it on this thread shows you’re going in full defense mode to save your behind

That’s something more to pm him about tbh if it’s genuine, posting it on this thread shows you’re going in full defense mode to save your behind

That’s something more to pm him about tbh if it’s genuine, posting it on this thread shows you’re going in full defense mode to save your behind

That’s something more to pm him about tbh if it’s genuine, posting it on this thread shows you’re going in full defense mode to save your behind

That’s something more to pm him about tbh if it’s genuine, posting it on this thread shows you’re going in full defense mode to save your behind

I'm just going to talk about this for a second, because I've not said anything about it until now and I really feel like I need to say it.
I go back on what I said before when I banned you. I was an idiot and I've learnt from it now, so I'm sorry for banning you for a month. Luckily, I've learned from that experience and I feel a lot more confident when it comes to bans and such

Yeah, I know. People that were once part of the community they loved dearly, and helped establish a great server with wonderful people, cool organization and leaving it in the hands of some great people come back a year later, and find that it's been dumbed down and replaced by people who defend fetish porn sprays then asks themselves "Why does this person hate me" is the worst thing to ever happen to this community. Gain some perspective.
You think I do this for fun? Spend my time looking at my past work, at the community's past work, talking with older members of the clan like some jaded football players, reminiscing about the good old days back when it was a fun? I do it because I give a poop about stuff I've helped the community worked on, and don't like it being ruined by immature kids who think they know everything about the world when they haven't even hit their twenties.
This is the exact behavior I'm talking about. Instead of asking "Where do you think this is going on?" or "Where you do think we need to improve?", you immediately start defending yourself and then complain that all of your problems somehow involve old members. And threatening to leave? If you can't handle criticism, you don't deserve to be here. Get gone and stay gone, or grow a spine and ask what you can do to make this a more enjoyable experience.

Okay so I’m putting this blunty because I know damn well I’m not the only one who feels like it’s just a bunch of friends gathering together to protect anyone in that circle and not caring about anyone outside of their groups input. Like there’s even random people crawling out of whatever rock they came from, not being relevant in the problem at all, to help save anyone who’s under fire.

Okay so I’m putting this blunty because I know damn well I’m not the only one who feels like it’s just a bunch of friends gathering together to protect anyone in that circle and not caring about anyone outside of their groups input. Like there’s even random people crawling out of whatever rock they came from, not being relevant in the problem at all, to help save anyone who’s under fire.

Can we have a serious discussion about the nepotism going on in this clan? It's absolutely absurd.
Take this thread for instance...
It's about an admin using a suggestive furry porn spray. I personally believe that this shouldn't be happening, especially by someone who represents power in the organization. One person, @NitNat offers this suggestion:
He made a simple statement, and within five minutes, he got four replies and the thread was closed by the very same people he's referring to.
It's the community right now. A lot of them don't want to admit it, but the best way to get moderator isn't to show that you're hard-working, constantly on the servers and reminding others of the rules, but instead get real close to the current administration until you've got a spot in their private discord, at which you're pretty much a shoo-in all the way to administrator. Nobody wants to admit it though, because if they did, the facade would crumble, and they would have to take responsibility for their actions. If you looked at XenoGamers in the past, the best way to get staff positions was to be hardworking. Now all you have to do is talk up admins, and if you're a furry, it helps.
I'm really sad to see the dying division head down this path, but there's not much you can do besides look at them and laugh. Take what happened to me for instance. I changed my name to "tired of the tf2 badmins" and had the same group of people defending that it was justified, and not the clear overreaction it was. Was anybody punished for not obeying the handbook? Nope. I got my sentenced reduced to a day, even after the leader told them it was ridiculous.
There's a reason I take breaks for months, and come back for a few weeks at a time. I enjoy playing TF2, but the community here has gone to poop with all the favoritism and staff taking things way to personally. I really hope yall can get on track with this. I'm tired of having to walk on eggshells, but if you can't handle some banter or even some lite playful trolling, then what the fudge are you doing being a mod in the first place. I refuse to acknowledge anyone that gets seriously angry about what a person says about them on the internet, especially if they have some semblance of power. Grow a thicker skin, or step down.
 
 I tried to put this as civilly as possible, and if the thread gets closed, then so be it.
This is pretty much the last post I'll ever make on these forums anyway. Maybe a goodbye thread.

Frankly this all started because of a group of friends crawling out from under a rock and starting a fire themselves. 
And since people are already devolving into bickering and pointing fingers in such a feeble manner instead of actually trying to contribute to resolving any problems, I am going to close this.
~Closed

Okay so I’m putting this blunty because I know damn well I’m not the only one who feels like it’s just a bunch of friends gathering together to protect anyone in that circle and not caring about anyone outside of their groups input. Like there’s even random people crawling out of whatever rock they came from, not being relevant in the problem at all, to help save anyone who’s under fire.

Okay so I’m putting this blunty because I know damn well I’m not the only one who feels like it’s just a bunch of friends gathering together to protect anyone in that circle and not caring about anyone outside of their groups input. Like there’s even random people crawling out of whatever rock they came from, not being relevant in the problem at all, to help save anyone who’s under fire.