Semper 120 Posted October 21, 2018 i left the discord so my opinion doesn't matter anymore, i did vote -1 so just remove that -1 from the current votes 1 YeEternalTuna reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geektopuss (the amazing team 0 Posted October 21, 2018 Now buddy, both kind of people who like those things are 75 percent of this groups population, so thode were some risky groups to mention 1 SegFault reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tatost 604 Posted October 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Semper said: i left the discord so my opinion doesn't matter anymore, i did vote -1 so just remove that -1 from the current votes No real reason to leave just yet. Hopefully, the two sides can agree that 99% of the problems on the Discord come from porn and other suggestive material being posted in #shitposting. If we can agree to no longer make #shitposting a no-mans-land and lay down a rule or two, then we should be fine having an NSFW meme channel. The only people who really lose anything of substance in this compromise would be the children who get their fetish fap material from there. 1 1 Kypari and YeEternalTuna reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Egossi 1017 Posted October 22, 2018 15 hours ago, Kypari said: Because it's server staff arguing Yeah im asking why they argue, does discord even require staff of servers to remove things that go against the tos, cause if not, you guys should be telling staff not to argue and only care about server rules instead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kypari 579 Posted October 22, 2018 7 hours ago, Egossi said: Yeah im asking why they argue, does discord even require staff of servers to remove things that go against the tos, cause if not, you guys should be telling staff not to argue and only care about server rules instead I mean we're arguing about whether something is against discord TOS or not and whether it should be removed, plus #shitposting is TOS rules only. We only remove stuff from #shitposting if it's against discord TOS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arnude 21 Posted October 23, 2018 I gotta say yeah, tired of seeing loli shit, fucking disgusting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrostyBoiGrim 17 Posted October 23, 2018 I personally believe it should stay as its one of the few places on the discord where people can express themselves in any way (that isn't against TOS), and I'm all for people having the freedom to express themselves and their opinions, even if they are "controversial" or "weird". Taking away this privilege limits people and what they can do, making the community feel more closed, or possibly more like a dictatorship 1 1 1 SyrixCoffeeWolf, SegFault and Red reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrostyBoiGrim 17 Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) (adding to what was posted above) One compromise would be to simply split the channels again. Yes, the Porn channel was taken down for too much anti-TOS content, but by simply being more vigilant, there would be less problems. The racist or edgy memes could go in #shitposting and the pornographic content can go in its own channel. It would take work and dedication, but we have discord staff, and they should be willing to put in the effort if it improves the community, which I believe a porn channel can do. In my experiences through 50+ discord servers, the best ones had 3 or more NSFW channels (One for standard porn and hentai, one for fetishes [Furry, Pony, Feet, BDSM, Etc.] and one for stupid fun memes), or no Fetish material whatsoever. In the servers that allowed porn, often there would be another channel for gay porn or some other subcategory of porn, and this led to people being able to avoid and mute the channels they had no interest in to filter the content they as a member wished to view. In these servers people were happy and never felt forced to view content that they found disgusting while others could view all the content to their hearts content. The reverse has happened too. I've been in servers that outright ban all fetish material (Furry, Pony, Feet, BDSM, Etc.) whether they are SFW or not. These communities are small but also happy and have been great places to hang out. I believe that this is not the right route for xG however due to the large population of fetishists. By restricting forcibly restricting the content one can view we shun a large portion of the community and tell them they are not welcome, or that their interests are not welcome, thus this is counter productive for xG. To summarize, Just add some other NSFW channels and let people mute the ones they don't care about. Edited October 24, 2018 by FrostyBoiGrim hopefully more grammatically correct (see edit history) 3 1 1 3 BonfireCentipede, Red, Tekk and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dannypicacho 273 Posted October 24, 2018 32 minutes ago, FrostyBoiGrim said: (adding to what was posted above) One compromise would be to simply split the channels again. Yes, the Porn channel was taken down for too much anti-TOS content, but by simply being more vigilant, there would be less problems. The racist or edgy memes could go in #shitposting and the pornographic content can go in its own channel. It would take work and dedication, but we have discord staff, and they should be willing to put in the effort if it improves the community, which I believe a porn channel can do. In my experiences through 50+ discord servers, the best ones had 3 or more NSFW channels (One for standard porn and hentai, one for fetishes [Furry, Pony, Feet, BDSM, Etc.] and one for stupid fun memes), or no Fetish material whatsoever. In the servers that allowed porn, often there would be another channel for gay porn or some other subcategory of porn, and this led to people being able to avoid and mute the channels they had no interest in to filter the content they as a member wished to view. In these servers people were happy and never felt forced to view content that they found disgusting while others could view all the content to their hearts content. The reverse has happened too. I've been in servers that outright ban all fetish material (Furry, Pony, Feet, BDSM, Etc.) whether they are SFW or not. These communities are small but also happy and have been great places to hang out. I believe that this is not the right route for xG however due to the large population of fetishists. By restricting forcibly restricting the content one can view we shun a large portion of the community and tell them they are not welcome, or that their interests are not welcome, thus this is counter productive for xG. To summarize, Just add some other NSFW channels and let people mute the ones they don't care about. bring back #nsfw? lmao good one 1 1 FrostyBoiGrim and YeEternalTuna reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrostyBoiGrim 17 Posted October 24, 2018 SO after talking with some people in-game, it seems this is a member only vote. 11/10 best way to gauge whether or not people want the channel to stay its not like there's a bunch of non-member regulars or anything haha 2 3 Thorax_, Tekk, Dannypicacho and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YeEternalTuna 246 Posted October 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, FrostyBoiGrim said: SO after talking with some people in-game, it seems this is a member only vote. 11/10 best way to gauge whether or not people want the channel to stay its not like there's a bunch of non-member regulars or anything haha I mean theres nothing stopping them from coming on here and commenting their opinion Anyways I'd rather keep the #shitposting channel rather than deleting it because we could just make no porn rule because it makes everything SUPER easy to moderate so we don't have arguments like ''hurr durr does tos allow this?/ uhhhhh it doesn't go against tos?!'' 1 1 Thorax_ and Kypari reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forest 309 Posted October 24, 2018 Just rename the channel "#repressedsexualdesires" because it doesn't seem like a lot of shitposting is happening based on all of the complaints Alternatively, as previously suggested by multiple people, just enforce a rule that prohibits any pornographic or otherwise sexually suggestive material. Don't see why that kind of stuff even needs a place here to be perfectly honest. Or y'know, just cut your losses and get rid of it 1 1 1 Egossi, Red and Thorax_ reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kypari 579 Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, YeEternalTuna said: I mean theres nothing stopping them from coming on here and commenting their opinion Anyways I'd rather keep the #shitposting channel rather than deleting it because we could just make no porn rule because it makes everything SUPER easy to moderate so we don't have arguments like ''hurr durr does tos allow this?/ uhhhhh it doesn't go against tos?!'' The focus isn't just porn it's other things that have come into question like infected and gory toes with skin peeling off them ree Edited October 24, 2018 by Kypari (see edit history) 1 YeEternalTuna reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tekk 272 Posted October 24, 2018 38 minutes ago, Kypari said: The focus isn't just porn it's other things that have come into question like infected and gory toes with skin peeling off them ree I mean I think 90% of xG doesn't wanna see constant furry porn and ponies with giant dicks in their mouth, but hey. I don't know about you guys, but I'd rather see questionable things. And don't lie, most of you get curious and take a look. I don't know anyone who isn't a furry and has done the same for furry porn inb4 -50 rep from the furry members 2 Red and Dannypicacho reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genocide 94 Posted October 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Tekage said: I mean I think 90% of xG doesn't wanna see constant furry porn and ponies with giant dicks in their mouth, but hey. I don't know about you guys, but I'd rather see questionable things. And don't lie, most of you get curious and take a look. I don't know anyone who isn't a furry and has done the same for furry porn inb4 -50 rep from the furry members Aren't you a admin of the tf2 division? Doesn't that make you a furry by association? 1 Tekk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites